Maybe,, Just Maybe SC will pass this
Some SC Lawmakers Want to Allow Weapons on Campus
COLUMBIA - Some South Carolina lawmakers believe allowing people to carry concealed weapons on school campuses could prevent massacres like last month's slayings at Virginia Tech.
Nearly 20 lawmakers have signed on to a bill that would allow concealed weapons on public school and college campuses.
The bill's chief sponsor is Representative Jeff Duncan. He says such a measure could have stopped Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho from killing 32 people during his rampage. He says a trained gunman could have stopped him from killing so many people.
A resident must be at least 21 years old and undergo training and background checks to get a concealed weapon permit in South Carolina.
The South Carolina School Boards Association opposes the idea. Director Paul Krohne says lawmakers should not "open the flood gates for more weapons in school - even lawful ones."
COLUMBIA - Some South Carolina lawmakers believe allowing people to carry concealed weapons on school campuses could prevent massacres like last month's slayings at Virginia Tech.
Nearly 20 lawmakers have signed on to a bill that would allow concealed weapons on public school and college campuses.
The bill's chief sponsor is Representative Jeff Duncan. He says such a measure could have stopped Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho from killing 32 people during his rampage. He says a trained gunman could have stopped him from killing so many people.
A resident must be at least 21 years old and undergo training and background checks to get a concealed weapon permit in South Carolina.
The South Carolina School Boards Association opposes the idea. Director Paul Krohne says lawmakers should not "open the flood gates for more weapons in school - even lawful ones."
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I'd support it! 0 -
Lets hope it passes! Once a few of the states allow carry into the schools and the media sees there is not daily gunfights in the classroom, then they can't spin the "danger agenda" any more. 0 -
I'd support 100% and then lets get resiprocity with Virginia so when I'm in town I'm legal...NC trusts me why not SC? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Madman
I'd support 100% and then lets get resiprocity with Virginia so when I'm in town I'm legal...NC trusts me why not SC?
I have not heard about it in a while but they were working on a reciprocity thing. I think it would allow any states permit as long as they were a resident of the state that issued it.0 -
A similar measure just passed the Tennessee house of Reps.
Let's hope this process keeps snowballing0 -
I think in Texas they are trying to get rid of gun free zones completely. Carry where you wish. Thats what Perry have been talking about. I am all for it. 0 -
I hope this passes also. My wife teaches at a school in Greenville County, and they've had several situations in the past 3 months where a Middle-Eastern husband showed up at the school to confront his white American wife who was there to pick up their child. His wife is trying to get out of the marriage. Husband beats the living crap outta the wife at home. The school gets locked down every time this has happened. The way I see it, he's a threat not only to his wife and child, but all the other children and teachers there, and MY wife. If I just happen to be there to see my wife after school and he's pulling some crap and brings out a gun......well, you know what I wanna do. 0 -
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place... 0 -
I'm still waiting for South Carolina to reciprocate Virginia's recognition of Concealed Weapon/Hand Gun permit/license. Been waiting a little over ten years now. Law making is supposed to be slow, but South Carolina abuses the privilege. 0 -
For this to be passed is going to require some supporters to get out and actually "support" the idea. 0 -
quote:He says a trained gunman could have stopped him from killing so many people. I wish he would have said (a trained citizen could have stopped him from killing so many people). 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place...
In Kentucky, as far as I'm aware, campuses are not technically "off limits". If you are found to have a gun, you may be required to leave but no criminal charges can be filed against you.
The problem is, there is no law stating that schools cannot prevent you from carrying on campus.
For example, If I was caught carrying my S&W .38 at school, criminally there would be no charges filed against me, assuming I wasn't waving it around or anything.
Academically, I would face immediate expulsion and possibly revocation of any credit I had received. The cost of expulsion for me right now would be over $15,000 and 4 years of my life wasted.
I'd carry every day if I could.....but right now, I can't afford to get caught0 -
quote:Originally posted by IAMAHUSKER
quote:He says a trained gunman could have stopped him from killing so many people. I wish he would have said (a trained citizen could have stopped him from killing so many people).
I don't even know why many people obsess over the "trained" part. Heck, shooting a gun is not basically all that different from using a camera. Meaning that you wait until you get the picture (target) you want in the viewfinder (sights), make sure nobody is blocking your view, and then click (shoot). And in a life or death situation it only takes half a brain to determine that some evil ba$+@rd is trying to kill you and you need to kill him/her first.
Weeks and weeks of intensive training is simply not needed or required. At least in my humble opinion.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place...
In Kentucky, as far as I'm aware, campuses are not technically "off limits". If you are found to have a gun, you may be required to leave but no criminal charges can be filed against you.
The problem is, there is no law stating that schools cannot prevent you from carrying on campus.
For example, If I was caught carrying my S&W .38 at school, criminally there would be no charges filed against me, assuming I wasn't waving it around or anything.
Academically, I would face immediate expulsion and possibly revocation of any credit I had received. The cost of expulsion for me right now would be over $15,000 and 4 years of my life wasted.
I'd carry every day if I could.....but right now, I can't afford to get caught
Actually that's not true... you could be charged with trespassing - especially if they have signs posted saying you can't carry. The owner of the property (in this case, probably the principle of the school) could claim you had no right to be there since you broke his rules... forbidden to enter if carrying. And he or she determines who is allowed on the property or not.
Trespassing laws vary from state to state. If the owner of the property ask you to leave and you refuse, you will be arrested for defiant trespassing... that's in all 50 states. If you leave immediately upon being asked, they may not be able to do anything about it.
If the principle took this seriously, you'd probably get arrested - now whether or not you would be found guilty in court depends on how well you or your attorney can defend yourself.
FL doesn't have a rep with SC either. Apparently SC's carry law is considerably different than most states. I don't know the precise details, but I'm sure this info is on packing.org0 -
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place...
In Kentucky, as far as I'm aware, campuses are not technically "off limits". If you are found to have a gun, you may be required to leave but no criminal charges can be filed against you.
The problem is, there is no law stating that schools cannot prevent you from carrying on campus.
For example, If I was caught carrying my S&W .38 at school, criminally there would be no charges filed against me, assuming I wasn't waving it around or anything.
Academically, I would face immediate expulsion and possibly revocation of any credit I had received. The cost of expulsion for me right now would be over $15,000 and 4 years of my life wasted.
I'd carry every day if I could.....but right now, I can't afford to get caught
Actually that's not true... you could be charged with trespassing - especially if they have signs posted saying you can't carry. The owner of the property (in this case, probably the principle of the school) could claim you had no right to be there since you broke his rules... forbidden to enter if carrying. And he or she determines who is allowed on the property or not.
Trespassing laws vary from state to state. If the owner of the property ask you to leave and you refuse, you will be arrested for defiant trespassing... that's in all 50 states. If you leave immediately upon being asked, they may not be able to do anything about it.
If the principle took this seriously, you'd probably get arrested - now whether or not you would be found guilty in court depends on how well you or your attorney can defend yourself.
FL doesn't have a rep with SC either. Apparently SC's carry law is considerably different than most states. I don't know the precise details, but I'm sure this info is on packing.org
We are working on that to change [:D][:D]
http://www.scfirearms.org/Legislative/letter_to_McConnell_re_3212.pdf0 -
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place...
In Kentucky, as far as I'm aware, campuses are not technically "off limits". If you are found to have a gun, you may be required to leave but no criminal charges can be filed against you.
The problem is, there is no law stating that schools cannot prevent you from carrying on campus.
For example, If I was caught carrying my S&W .38 at school, criminally there would be no charges filed against me, assuming I wasn't waving it around or anything.
Academically, I would face immediate expulsion and possibly revocation of any credit I had received. The cost of expulsion for me right now would be over $15,000 and 4 years of my life wasted.
I'd carry every day if I could.....but right now, I can't afford to get caught
Actually that's not true... you could be charged with trespassing - especially if they have signs posted saying you can't carry. The owner of the property (in this case, probably the principle of the school) could claim you had no right to be there since you broke his rules... forbidden to enter if carrying. And he or she determines who is allowed on the property or not.
Trespassing laws vary from state to state. If the owner of the property ask you to leave and you refuse, you will be arrested for defiant trespassing... that's in all 50 states. If you leave immediately upon being asked, they may not be able to do anything about it.
If the principle took this seriously, you'd probably get arrested - now whether or not you would be found guilty in court depends on how well you or your attorney can defend yourself.
FL doesn't have a rep with SC either. Apparently SC's carry law is considerably different than most states. I don't know the precise details, but I'm sure this info is on packing.org
You sir need to do some research on KY state law, and KY state supreme court rulings on KY right to bear arms. Its much better than those in florida, as usual you know absouetly nothing of what you are speaking of.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Fatboy lives
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place...
In Kentucky, as far as I'm aware, campuses are not technically "off limits". If you are found to have a gun, you may be required to leave but no criminal charges can be filed against you.
The problem is, there is no law stating that schools cannot prevent you from carrying on campus.
For example, If I was caught carrying my S&W .38 at school, criminally there would be no charges filed against me, assuming I wasn't waving it around or anything.
Academically, I would face immediate expulsion and possibly revocation of any credit I had received. The cost of expulsion for me right now would be over $15,000 and 4 years of my life wasted.
I'd carry every day if I could.....but right now, I can't afford to get caught
Actually that's not true... you could be charged with trespassing - especially if they have signs posted saying you can't carry. The owner of the property (in this case, probably the principle of the school) could claim you had no right to be there since you broke his rules... forbidden to enter if carrying. And he or she determines who is allowed on the property or not.
Trespassing laws vary from state to state. If the owner of the property ask you to leave and you refuse, you will be arrested for defiant trespassing... that's in all 50 states. If you leave immediately upon being asked, they may not be able to do anything about it.
If the principle took this seriously, you'd probably get arrested - now whether or not you would be found guilty in court depends on how well you or your attorney can defend yourself.
FL doesn't have a rep with SC either. Apparently SC's carry law is considerably different than most states. I don't know the precise details, but I'm sure this info is on packing.org
You sir need to do some research on KY state law, and KY state supreme court rulings on KY right to bear arms. Its much better than those in florida, as usual you know absouetly nothing of what you are speaking of.
Why don't you shut the hell up, you retard?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
quote:Originally posted by Fatboy lives
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
I thought the school thing fell under federal bright line law? If the law can vary from state to state, colleges and universities should never have been off limits in the first fricking place...
In Kentucky, as far as I'm aware, campuses are not technically "off limits". If you are found to have a gun, you may be required to leave but no criminal charges can be filed against you.
The problem is, there is no law stating that schools cannot prevent you from carrying on campus.
For example, If I was caught carrying my S&W .38 at school, criminally there would be no charges filed against me, assuming I wasn't waving it around or anything.
Academically, I would face immediate expulsion and possibly revocation of any credit I had received. The cost of expulsion for me right now would be over $15,000 and 4 years of my life wasted.
I'd carry every day if I could.....but right now, I can't afford to get caught
Actually that's not true... you could be charged with trespassing - especially if they have signs posted saying you can't carry. The owner of the property (in this case, probably the principle of the school) could claim you had no right to be there since you broke his rules... forbidden to enter if carrying. And he or she determines who is allowed on the property or not.
Trespassing laws vary from state to state. If the owner of the property ask you to leave and you refuse, you will be arrested for defiant trespassing... that's in all 50 states. If you leave immediately upon being asked, they may not be able to do anything about it.
If the principle took this seriously, you'd probably get arrested - now whether or not you would be found guilty in court depends on how well you or your attorney can defend yourself.
FL doesn't have a rep with SC either. Apparently SC's carry law is considerably different than most states. I don't know the precise details, but I'm sure this info is on packing.org
You sir need to do some research on KY state law, and KY state supreme court rulings on KY right to bear arms. Its much better than those in florida, as usual you know absouetly nothing of what you are speaking of.
Why don't you shut the hell up, you retard?
I like that. YOu get shot down with facts, something that happens quite a lot, and you respond with insults. Get bleened ass wipe.0 -
Bleened? I can see you don't know how to spell absolutely either.
Aren't you the same fat kid who originally claimed he was from Aruba, and now has Yugoslavia under his profile? And now you claim you live in KY instead.
Hey fat kid, you should spend more time jerking off in your mother's basement, and less time posting on message boards.0 -
I want to thank some of you guys for acting ignorant and argueing on this thread. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
Bleened? I can see you don't know how to spell absolutely either.
Aren't you the same fat kid who originally claimed he was from Aruba, and now has Yugoslavia under his profile? And now you claim you live in KY instead.
Hey fat kid, you should spend more time jerking off in your mother's basement, and less time posting on message boards.
Aren't you the dumb ass that said I'd have no idea of U.S gun laws since I had aruba as my place of residence on my profile. If you've got a problem with the spelling of bleened, then cry to the auto censor. Dumb ass.0 -
Kid, you really need to go back to McDonalds and make yourself fatter.
When you started this, you gave a very vague response about the 2nd amendment that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with trespassing laws. You cited nothing from KY statutes to support you claim.
Select-fire, if fatty dies from a heart attack due to clogged arteries, there won't be nearly as many arguments on these forums.0
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