He Shot Them Both In the Back.
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Police say Horn shot 2 men in the back
1 man had been deported in '99; officials looking at possible ties to a burglary ring
Pasadena protests collide Two men suspected of burglarizing a neighbor's home were shot in the back by Pasadena homeowner Joe Horn after the suspects ventured into his front yard, Pasadena police disclosed Friday.
Also, for the first time, investigators revealed the Nov. 14 shooting was witnessed by a plainclothes Pasadena detective, who had pulled up in an unmarked car seconds before Horn fired three shots from his 12-guage shotgun.
The detective's name was not released as the new details emerged about the controversial shootings that have outraged minority activists but also brought an outpouring of support from others.
"We have now documented a summary of what we think happened. We will turn it over to the district attorney in a couple of weeks after we finish our extensive quality control review," said Pasadena Police Department Captain A.H. "Bud" Corbett. The Harris County district attorney will then present the case to a grand jury to determine if any charges should be filed against Horn.
The suspects were illegal immigrants from Colombia, and one man had been deported nearly 10 years ago, authorities said.
Authorities have said they are investigating whether Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 48, were part of a crime ring linked to burglaries and the use of fake immigration documents.
The two - killed by Horn after he said they were trying to steal his neighbor's property - were in the country illegally, according to Leticia Zamarripa, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Horn, 61, shot Ortiz and Torres, who went by the alias Miguel Antonio DeJesus. Horn called police after hearing breaking glass. He ignored an operator's warning to not go outside with his gun.
Corbett said Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction. He was on parole until 2017, Corbett said.
Police found a Puerto Rican identification card on Ortiz. He had two aliases.
Torres had identification cards from Colombia, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. He had three aliases.
State and federal authorities are investigating whether the two men, who lived in southwest Houston, were involved in the crime ring, Corbett said.
Police found almost $2,000 in cash in a white bag the men allegedly took from the home in the 7400 block of Timberline before Horn shot them.
Investigators also are trying to determine whether the men knew about the home or family before burglarizing it.
"I don't believe the victim was a random choice ... but there's no evidence of a relationship either," between the homeowners and suspects, Corbett said.
Horn told the operator that he did not know his neighbors well. Neighbors said the family moved into the home next to Horn's house about four months ago.
"I can't comment," a woman at the home said over the phone Thursday night.
A source told police that Ortiz and Torres burglarized the home, in part, because the homeowners were immigrants.
"They targeted foreign-born people," Corbett said. "They felt they were easier victims."
Little is known about the homeowners, who have Vietnamese surnames.
Neighbors said they own a small business near their Village Grove East subdivision.
Records filed with the Office of the Secretary of State of Texas show that the family owns a dry cleaning business on Fairmont Parkway.
Horn has received an outpouring of support from some neighbors, friends and strangers, but the incident also has outraged activists and other neighbors.
Activists and Horn supporters clashed Sunday when they staged dueling protests outside his home. The homeowners association is trying to prevent more protests from being held in the subdivision.
Police say Horn shot 2 men in the back
1 man had been deported in '99; officials looking at possible ties to a burglary ring
Pasadena protests collide Two men suspected of burglarizing a neighbor's home were shot in the back by Pasadena homeowner Joe Horn after the suspects ventured into his front yard, Pasadena police disclosed Friday.
Also, for the first time, investigators revealed the Nov. 14 shooting was witnessed by a plainclothes Pasadena detective, who had pulled up in an unmarked car seconds before Horn fired three shots from his 12-guage shotgun.
The detective's name was not released as the new details emerged about the controversial shootings that have outraged minority activists but also brought an outpouring of support from others.
"We have now documented a summary of what we think happened. We will turn it over to the district attorney in a couple of weeks after we finish our extensive quality control review," said Pasadena Police Department Captain A.H. "Bud" Corbett. The Harris County district attorney will then present the case to a grand jury to determine if any charges should be filed against Horn.
The suspects were illegal immigrants from Colombia, and one man had been deported nearly 10 years ago, authorities said.
Authorities have said they are investigating whether Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 48, were part of a crime ring linked to burglaries and the use of fake immigration documents.
The two - killed by Horn after he said they were trying to steal his neighbor's property - were in the country illegally, according to Leticia Zamarripa, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Horn, 61, shot Ortiz and Torres, who went by the alias Miguel Antonio DeJesus. Horn called police after hearing breaking glass. He ignored an operator's warning to not go outside with his gun.
Corbett said Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction. He was on parole until 2017, Corbett said.
Police found a Puerto Rican identification card on Ortiz. He had two aliases.
Torres had identification cards from Colombia, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. He had three aliases.
State and federal authorities are investigating whether the two men, who lived in southwest Houston, were involved in the crime ring, Corbett said.
Police found almost $2,000 in cash in a white bag the men allegedly took from the home in the 7400 block of Timberline before Horn shot them.
Investigators also are trying to determine whether the men knew about the home or family before burglarizing it.
"I don't believe the victim was a random choice ... but there's no evidence of a relationship either," between the homeowners and suspects, Corbett said.
Horn told the operator that he did not know his neighbors well. Neighbors said the family moved into the home next to Horn's house about four months ago.
"I can't comment," a woman at the home said over the phone Thursday night.
A source told police that Ortiz and Torres burglarized the home, in part, because the homeowners were immigrants.
"They targeted foreign-born people," Corbett said. "They felt they were easier victims."
Little is known about the homeowners, who have Vietnamese surnames.
Neighbors said they own a small business near their Village Grove East subdivision.
Records filed with the Office of the Secretary of State of Texas show that the family owns a dry cleaning business on Fairmont Parkway.
Horn has received an outpouring of support from some neighbors, friends and strangers, but the incident also has outraged activists and other neighbors.
Activists and Horn supporters clashed Sunday when they staged dueling protests outside his home. The homeowners association is trying to prevent more protests from being held in the subdivision.
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I don't care where he shot the ILLEGAL ALIEN BORDER BUSTING DRUGGIE HOME INVADING, DID I MENTION ILLEGAL TO BE HERE, NOW DEAD AND GONE FOR GOOD, NOT A PROBLEM OR ISSUE ANYMORE, CRIMINAL TRESSPASSING THIEVING MISERABLE, ILLEGAL SCUM HOME INVADERS.
Glad they are gone. They will never rob again.0 -
quote:Originally posted by peon
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5359290.html
Police say Horn shot 2 men in the back
It's still legal.0 -
Seems to me the government and LEOs need to enforce the immigration laws and stop listening to these groups that say illegals are ok. 0 -
Where's Al? 0 -
What, how long ago did this happen, a week or two? Now we find out a cop seen the whole thing? BS!
Got Guns?0 -
He must have hit them with buckshot. Shot the first one and he went down, shot the other he ran a short distance then he dropped. 0 -
I think the world is a better place without these two criminals. I also think Mr. Horn is going to be in big trouble. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
What, how long ago did this happen, a week or two? Now we find out a cop seen the whole thing? BS!
Got Guns?
Have you heard the 911 recording? The dispatcher tells him there are plain clothes officers on the scene just seconds after he shot the perps.0 -
Funny how a plain clothes Officers has now come forth as a witness? This is probably far from over, I would fear my life was in jeopardy if I was Horn. 0 -
Amazing the cops got there as fast as they did. I once called the cops on a guy that had a gun outside my home that was my wifes ex-boyfriend. Half hour later the cops called me back and asked me if I still needed a officer there.
I don't blame the guy for not expecting the officers to be there and taking care of business himself. The two men were illegals and following a clearly criminal life in a country they shouldn't of even been in.0 -
The dispatcher was out of line from the moment he mentioned he was armed, but Horn should have kept his mouth shut about his intentions. He's most likely going to lose a civil wrongful death case based on his statements on the 911 tape [V] 0 -
That's the other thing, illegals have more rights/protection than LEGAL CITIZENS.[:(] 0 -
quote:Funny how a plain clothes Officers has now come forth as a witness? This is probably far from over, I would fear my life was in jeopardy if I was Horn.
Seems to me that the people on the business end of his shotgun should be the one's in fear.[:D]0 -
Personally, I think Mr. Horn deserves a neighborhood watch award ......... but, unfortunately, I think he is going to get nailed criminally, civily or both. 0 -
But don't you think the burglary rates in Texas will suddenly drop for a while? 0
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