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  • hotshoot
    quote:Originally posted by Txs

    20 million rounds .50 Caliber 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency recently notified Congress that the Iraqi government has submitted this wish list after the decision was made for them to move away from Soviet stuff and switch over to US weapons/equipment.

    thats why i can't find any 50 bmg [V][:(]
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  • PC800
    They are going from AKs to M-16s? In that environment with their low level of training, I would stick with the AK.
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  • codenamepaul
    quote:Originally posted by Txs

    600,000 rounds 12 Gauge 00 Buckshot
    16 million rounds 9mm Ball
    100 million rounds M855 5.56 Ball
    40 million rounds 5.56mm Tracer
    50 million rounds 5.56mm Blank
    36 million rounds 5.56mm 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    30 million rounds 7.62mm 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    10 million rounds M118 7.62 X 51mm Ball
    100 million rounds 7.62mm X 39mm Ball
    20 million rounds .50 Caliber 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    170,000 rounds 40mm HEDP Grenade
    80,000 C4 1-pound blocks
    4.2 million Feet Detonating Cord
    110,000 Feet Time Fuze
    20,000 Time Fuze Igniter
    20,000 Non-Electric Blasting Caps
    112,500 M14 Non-Electric Blasting Caps
    180,00 Flash Bang Grenades20,000 HC Smoke Grenades
    20,000 Yellow Smoke Grenades

    Along with...

    1,268 Generation (Gen) II Single Tube Night Vision Goggles
    10,126 M17 9mm Glock Pistols
    2,126,250 rounds 9mm Pistol Ammunition
    50,750 M16A2 5.56mm Rifles
    50,750 M4A1 5.56mm Rifles
    15 AN/PVS-17 Gen III Assault Weapon Sights.
    3,442 M24 Sniper Rifles
    40 AN/PVS-10 Gen II Sniper Weapon Sights
    8,105 M249 Machine Guns
    3,037 M240B Machine Guns
    1,214,800 rounds M240 7.62mm Crew Served Machine Gun Ammunition
    9,562 Hand Held Pyrotechnics
    8,670 Hand Held Smoke Munitions

    The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency recently notified Congress that the Iraqi government has submitted this wish list after the decision was made for them to move away from Soviet stuff and switch over to US weapons/equipment.

    Sure-this is why they want 100 million rounds of 7.62X39

    I say give them rocks.
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  • PC800
    quote:Originally posted by codenamepaul
    quote:Originally posted by Txs

    600,000 rounds 12 Gauge 00 Buckshot
    16 million rounds 9mm Ball
    100 million rounds M855 5.56 Ball
    40 million rounds 5.56mm Tracer
    50 million rounds 5.56mm Blank
    36 million rounds 5.56mm 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    30 million rounds 7.62mm 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    10 million rounds M118 7.62 X 51mm Ball
    100 million rounds 7.62mm X 39mm Ball
    20 million rounds .50 Caliber 4 Ball/1 Tracer
    170,000 rounds 40mm HEDP Grenade
    80,000 C4 1-pound blocks
    4.2 million Feet Detonating Cord
    110,000 Feet Time Fuze
    20,000 Time Fuze Igniter
    20,000 Non-Electric Blasting Caps
    112,500 M14 Non-Electric Blasting Caps
    180,00 Flash Bang Grenades20,000 HC Smoke Grenades
    20,000 Yellow Smoke Grenades

    Along with...

    1,268 Generation (Gen) II Single Tube Night Vision Goggles
    10,126 M17 9mm Glock Pistols
    2,126,250 rounds 9mm Pistol Ammunition
    50,750 M16A2 5.56mm Rifles
    50,750 M4A1 5.56mm Rifles
    15 AN/PVS-17 Gen III Assault Weapon Sights.
    3,442 M24 Sniper Rifles
    40 AN/PVS-10 Gen II Sniper Weapon Sights
    8,105 M249 Machine Guns
    3,037 M240B Machine Guns
    1,214,800 rounds M240 7.62mm Crew Served Machine Gun Ammunition
    9,562 Hand Held Pyrotechnics
    8,670 Hand Held Smoke Munitions

    The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency recently notified Congress that the Iraqi government has submitted this wish list after the decision was made for them to move away from Soviet stuff and switch over to US weapons/equipment.

    Sure-this is why they want 100 million rounds of 7.62X39

    I say give them rocks.


    And over 200 million rounds of 5.56. Can't shoot that through an AK. Guess they could be adopting the SAW, but from what I hear that is about as poor as the M-16 is.
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  • spanielsells
    You sure this isn't Chuck Schumer's way of getting ammunition off the streets?
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  • Txs
    quote:Originally posted by codenamepaul
    Sure-this is why they want 100 million rounds of 7.62X39It's not as if it's possible to change over weapons of their entire force at once, even if all 100,000+ of these were to suddenly appear in their depots.

    Besides simply issuing these weapons out, it involves obtaining lots of related equipment (ammunition, web gear, magazines, cleaning gear, etc.), conducting operater/armorer training and setting up logistic support.

    I'm aware they're already issuing M16's/M249's/M240's to all new recruits and will implement their total force replacement program as shipments are received.
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  • TooBig
    No wonder ammo is getting expensive , I guess 762X39 should get cheaper[:(!][V][xx(][:(]
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  • gearheaddad
    No beer?
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  • tsavo303
    that's alot of ammo! 400 million + rounds![:0] maybe marksmanship classes would be cheaper[:o)]
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  • Txs
    quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
    that's alot of ammo! 400 million + rounds![:0]It has potential.

    Let's see, that's 72 virgins multiplied by 400,000,000....
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  • sothere
    I was wondering what happened to my Det-Cord
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  • JackBwr
    I've got an idea! Why don't we take a tiny fraction of the billions we're sending over there (or of what this shopping list consists of) and build a gun manufacturing facility or at the least an ammunitions plant for them? That way, they can BUY THEIR OWN materials, hire and train their own citizens to work there and become self sufficient FOR A CHANGE.

    Or can we expect them to submit Christmas 'wish lists' to us and have the US tax payers foot the bill to fulfill them forever? This is BS. [:(!]

    I HATE IRAQ!!!
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  • JackBwr
    Besides this, without complete US supervision for eternity, do they realize how many of these weapons will end up selling on the black market, likely ending up in the hands of terrorists? Some general will end up with an entire batch of something, keep some for himself, give others to family and friends and sell the rest to the first suit case of cash.
    Wouldn't be surprised if some crates end up 'missing' before the shipments even hit their destinations.

    Mean while, we're the ones paying for it.
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  • JackBwr
    How many times in history has the victor of a conflict re-built and re-armed the defeated military? I gotta get out of this thread. This is too overly retarded to discuss anymore.
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