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  • tobefree
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    quote:Originally posted by alledan
    Never kill anything that you can't or won't eat.

    Never?
    What about a mouse or rat in the house or barn?
    Coyote or fox raiding the hen house?
    Grizzly bear attacking a human?


    Hell, I love Chinese!!!
    It is all in the seasoning.....
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  • mond
    what an a88 'ole..[xx(]...love to see him run !! boommmmmmm.[}:)]
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  • Mk 19
    It is law in most African countries that the meat left over from your kill goes to the local people, nothing on that bull went to waist and it could have fed a small village for 6 months.
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  • David Nunn
    I imagine some of the maneuvers and tactics seen in the second video aren't that much different than one would have seen from American Indians hunting bison or deer a couple of hundred years ago.

    IMNSHO, it takes a lot of sand to take on a Cape buffalo, elephant, or hippo with a spear, even in a group.
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  • LesWVa
    quote: In the Indian state of Jharkhand, 300 people were killed by elephants between 2000 and 2004. In Assam, 239 people have been killed by elephants since 2001.



    Yea.. But you need to remember that in India and a few other countries. Elephants are used as beast of burdens much like the Horse and Oxen were used here until steam and internal combustion engines were invented.
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  • Laredo Lefty
    Well, if you gotta go, I would rather take a couple shots from a double rifle than 30 spears from a bunch of villagers.

    Looks like it took some of those elephants 20+ minutes to die.
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by alledan
    Never kill anything that you can't or won't eat.
    Crows, Yotes, rats, mice, mosquitos, ferrel cats. these are some of the things Ive killed and not eaten.
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  • meunke
    I haven't viewed the videos yet as I'm at work and streaming video gets filtered by the proxy server.

    A few notes on this subject.

    The big heydays of elephant hunting were a long time ago. There were plenty of them. Sure the ivory and sport were the desires of the primarily European hunters, but the entire animal was used. The local tribes and porters that assitted with the hunts help not only for money, but also on the promise of getting fresh meat.

    The big thing, though, is to remember that it was a TOTALLY DIFFERENT TIME THEN. Africa was different too.

    If properly managed so as to keep the numbers up, and it is done humanely, I don't see anything wrong with hunting elephant, rhino, etc. One could easily point out that elephant and rhino hunters have bigger b@lls than any of us deer hunters as if you manage to just p*ss off the elephant, you might get, quite literally, torn apart. Read some of Capstick's stories about that.

    A short time back I posted a few pics of the famous hunter Sasha Siemel, the jaguar hunter of South America back near the turn of last century. Almost everyone condemed him and quite a few expressed wishes that he had been killed by what he hunted. This comes from a total lack of perspective, mainly by non-hunters, but some modern hunters as well. It comes from not being able to disconnect oneself from the present day and imagine that things have ever been any different than they are right now.

    Siemel, BTW, hunted jaguars a lot of the time with a FREAKIN' SPEAR on FOOT. He would often be hired to go after man eaters and killers of cattle.

    Who knows, in another 80+ years, you grandchildren may look back at pictures and say: "Good Lord, Grandpa was a totally barbaric deginerate! Why would he go out of his way to kill poor defenseless deer! Especially since they're endangered! I wish some of those buck could have caught him in their horns." (Like I said, just a hypothetical situation.)

    I'll have to check out the videos when I get home.
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