Pizza Hut fires store manager for
Pizza Hut has fired a store manager in Orlando, Florida for defending his and his employees lives from armed robbers with a firearm that he's licensed to carry. http://tinyurl.com/2b37l6
To many times we hear about employee's of restaurants being herded into the back room and killed execution style. This employee needs to be awarded a metal for bravery instead of being fired. I guess they'd rather have all the employees dead as to have someone break company policy.
I sent the idiots a message to let them know I'll not be back into a Pizza Hut ever again or any other company associated with them.
http://www.pizzahut.com/ContactUs/OtherFeedback.aspx
Smitty
To many times we hear about employee's of restaurants being herded into the back room and killed execution style. This employee needs to be awarded a metal for bravery instead of being fired. I guess they'd rather have all the employees dead as to have someone break company policy.
I sent the idiots a message to let them know I'll not be back into a Pizza Hut ever again or any other company associated with them.
http://www.pizzahut.com/ContactUs/OtherFeedback.aspx
Smitty
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Screw Pizza S-lut anyway...support your local pizza shop
auto censor can go perform a physically impossible act upon itself[:(!]0 -
just sent them an email, letting them know I wont be spending my money there. 0 -
I have mixed feelings about this - the report made it sound like he followed the robbers out and took some pot shots at them as they fled.... 0 -
They heard from me, also. 0 -
It's hard to say - they were already on their way out, so there may not have been any need to escalate the situation further.
Of course, the key word there is "may."
Regardless, I still think Pizza Hut was wrong in firing him. While the act itself may have been unecessary (him firing at fleeing criminals), his actions do serve as a deterrent effect - the message criminals will get is 'Pizza Hut employees pack heat - stay away."
Or would have if they had not fired him - having fired him, Pizza Hut has simply hung out a sign saying "violent felons welcome - responsible gun owners aren't."[:(!]0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
I'm not saying that I agree with their policies, but then again, if you were the owner of a business, and you condoned your employees being armed, you are to a certain degree, liable for whatever might happen in the course of a business day.
Why take a stand either way if you own the company? Let the state law apply and then the employer is not going to be libel for anything to do with it. Then if an employee has a license and decides to carry it then it's legal. Don't ask, don't tell which is the way it should be anyway. No one has a right to ask you if you have a gun except law enforcement.
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Guns don't kill people, people do.
Having a gun didn't give this guy decent judgement or street smarts.
From what I can tell from the video and the manager's own statements, the robbers had the money, didn't hurt the manager or anybody else, and had already left the premises when he went and opened the door and fired at them as they fled. Saying that they threatened him as they made their getaway was obviously a stretch. If he had said that he went to try and get the plate on their car and they had opened fire on him, then sure, blaze away.
Guys like this give permit holders a bad name. I wouldn't want to work with or anywhere around him. Progun types like to preach about personal reponsibility, but when they get in trouble that goes out the window. If you know what the rules are and you deliberately break them, for whatever reason, then be man enough to take the consequences.
All of which is irrelevant: If it was against company policy for him to have a gun, permit or not, then if he wanted to carry one he should've found another job that let him. If the company is so evil to deny him his God-given right to carry whatever weapon he wants whenever he wants, then he doesn't have to work for them, does he?
I'd email Pizza Hut telling them to make sure that all of their managers were armed and trained before I eat there again, but I never eat there anyway, so a proclamation of a boycott would be dishonest. Besides, if I boycotted every company that was anti-gun I'd be living in the woods wearing buckskins.0 -
Gave them my thoughts on the idea, and will avoid buying pizza's from them. 0 -
quote:I worked for a Little Sleazer's and the place got robbed. I found out that the "panic button" under the counter wasn't even wired in. It was just a doorbell switch the owner screwed to the counter.
Now that's funny!
Wait, no it's not. You risk drawing the ire of the robber to trip the alarm in hopes that the cops will show up in time, and it's not even functional? Sounds like the owner was trying to get an employee shot.0 -
If it is against company policy then he SHOULD LOSE HIS JOB. Plain and simple. I guess it should be OK for people to drink on the job too? I agree that it is sh-tty that the guy is losing his job. But he violated the rules and must face the consequences. But it is better to be judged by twelve that carried by six. 0 -
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I put "pizza hut armed robbery" into Google. 128,000 hits.0 -
The company that I worked for for 15 years implemented a policy shortly before I quit -- you will not carry firearms in company-owned vehicles -- at any time and for whatever reason.
This would not be a big deal if the following didn't occur:
1. Employees were assigned vehicles. This was a perk. It negated the need for the employee to purchase his/her own vehicle, gas it up, pay for insurance, maintenance, etc. So, unless you had another car, I suppose if you wanted to go hunting or go to the range, you needed to take a cab or rent a car.
2. The biggest issue was the fact that many times, the company was sending its employees into "less than desireable" neighborhoods. There were plenty of times when I was really scared -- frightened mind you -- of where they were sending me. Sometimes, these were neighborhoods that the cops didn't even like going.
My opinion was "screw it" -- my life was worth more than any job. I packed my gun and I went to the range and I went hunting and if they wanted to fire me, let them pay for my unemployment.
Thankfully, it never came down to that. But, I will never take a job again where the lives of the employees are worthless to the employer... at least when it comes to an employee's ability to defend his/her life in a life-threatening situation.0 -
I'm with spanielsells on this one. One can always get another job.
WTH? This guy was a Pizza Hut manager! Big deal. Not like he had a real job or something.0 -
We are not allowed to have a firearm in our locked car in the parking lot. Rules such as this have been argued in court for years. The company policy has prevailed. I believe the current arguments are on the line of: OK, the company will not let us have the opportunity to protect ourselves. The company then has the responsibility to protect us not only while on company property but from when we leave our home in the morning until we arrive back home safely.
I'm waiting to see if this will succeed in court. Heck it probably will take years!0 -
Might be fun to start suing employers that have this rule for each and every time someone is hurt by a criminal? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
Many businesses do not tolerate their employees being armed, no less taking shots at criminals, for whatever reason.
I'm not saying that I agree with their policies, but then again, if you were the owner of a business, and you condoned your employees being armed, you are to a certain degree, liable for whatever might happen in the course of a business day.
I am sure that line of thinking is not lost on the criminal element of our country. When are we going to be less afraid of litigation than we are the loss of life? America is awash in apathy these days and the feeling of "oh well, it's not me" is enough to make me puke.
Dano, I am not attacking you, merely commenting on your HONEST and ACCURATE observations about the world in which we live today.
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I worked for a company 29 years that had a policy prohibiting firearms. Most of us carried anyway. My reasoning is that I'd rather be fired by one that carried to my grave by six.
And yes, during that employment several of us had to show our weapons to prevent being asaulted- but that never makes the news.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
I'm with spanielsells on this one. One can always get another job.
WTH? This guy was a Pizza Hut manager! Big deal. Not like he had a real job or something.
The former Pizza Hut manager would probably disagree with you on that point.
Sure, it's not a high paying job, but it's a job, and they guy wasn't on welfare.
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I agree nothing is worth the cost of life, even a thugs... Unless he puts yours or others lives in jeopardy, then thats a horse of a different color. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
quote:Originally posted by jhimco
If it is against company policy then he SHOULD LOSE HIS JOB. Plain and simple. I guess it should be OK for people to drink on the job too? I agree that it is sh-tty that the guy is losing his job. But he violated the rules and must face the consequences. But it is better to be judged by twelve that carried by six.
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to rely on some punk pizza hut manager to protect me. His actions put everyone at risk, then he took it to the street and jeopardized the public's safety too by firing at them as they fled. What if one of his stray bullets hit a child, or old person, or you? His competence with a firearm is uncertain, yet there are so many "quick to judge" individuals here that believe that "his rights" should supercede company policy. No amount of money in any pizza hut cash drawer is worth risking your life over. The guy sounds like he was anticipating trouble, possibly even looking for it by carrying a concealed weapon in his place of employment. Most realistic people would view that as pure "vigilantism." I believe he deserves to loose his job, as well as his concealed carry permit. Idiots shouldn't have firearms. [B)]
there are so many "quick to judge" individuals here that believe that "his rights" should supercede company policy
Well that says alot right there.0 -
darn pizza hut rep. what would he have done if he truley felt as though his life was in danger....probably cry....damn liberal 0 -
I don't go to pizza hut anyways, their pizza sucks
I don't think I can bring myself to pass up KFC, taco bell and long john silver's if it's lunchtime and that's what's in front of me... not in my nature to pass up food, even for a few blocks0 -
I for one will not tolerate a business that will not support their employees being armed, or defending themselves. Pizza Hut has earned my last dollar.
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quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
Might be fun to start suing employers that have this rule for each and every time someone is hurt by a criminal?
Not with tort reform it wouldn't...0
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