They'll never do anything about it...
Obesity is on the rise due to the upside-down food pyramid. The dairy industry and the bread industry are powerful entities and 2 of the main causes of obesity. So nothing will happen. They idiots at the FDA will keep pushing that fat is bad and carbohydrates are good and nothing will change. You better plan on 25% of your health care premiums to go for type 2 diabetic care in about 20 years.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070827/D8R9FLT80.html
WASHINGTON (AP) - Loosen the belt buckle another notch America: Obesity rates continued their climb in 31 states last year. No state showed a decline.
Mississippi became the first state to crack the 30 percent barrier for adult residents considered to be obese. West Virginia and Alabama are just slightly behind, according to the Trust for America's Health, a research group that focuses on disease prevention.
Colorado continued its reign as the leanest state in the nation with an obesity rate projected at 17.6 percent.
This year's report, for the first time, looked at rates of overweight children ages 10 to 17. The District of Columbia had the highest percentage - 22.8 percent. Utah had the lowest percentage of overweight youth - 8.5 percent.
Health officials say the latest state rankings provide evidence that the nation has a public health crisis on its hands.
Unfortunately, we're treating it like a mere inconvenience instead of the emergency that it is," said Dr. James Marks, senior vice president at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation,a philanthropy devoted to improving health care.
Officials at the Trust for America's Health advocate for the government to play a larger role in preventing obesity. People who are overweight are at an increased risk for diabetes, heart problems and other chronic diseases that contribute to greater health care costs.
"It's one of those issues where everyone believes this is an epidemic, but it's not getting the level of political and policymaker attention that it ought to," said Jeffrey Levi, the organization's executive director. "As every candidate for president talks about health care reform and controlling health care cost costs, if we don't hone in on this issue, none of their proposals are going to be affordable."
At the same time, many believe weight is a personal choice and responsibility. Levi doesn't dispute that notion, but he said society can help people make good choices.
"If we want kids to eat healthier food, we have to invest the money for school nutrition programs so that school lunches are healthier," he said. "If we want people to be more physically active, then there have to be safe places to be active. That's not just a class issues. We've designed suburban communities where there are no sidewalks for anybody to go out and take a walk."
To measure obesity rates, Trust for America's Health compares data from 2003-2005 with 2004-2006. It combines data from three years to improve the accuracy of projections. The data come from a survey of height and weight taken over the telephone by state health departments.
Generally, anyone with a body mass index greater than 30 is considered obese. The index is a ratio that takes into account height and weight. The overweight range is 25 to 29.9. Normal is 18.5 to 24.9. People with a large amount of lean muscle mass, such as athletes, can show a large body mass index without having an unhealthy level of fat.
A lack of exercise is a huge factor in obesity rates. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found last year that more than 22 percent of Americans did not engage in any physical activity in the past month. The percentage is greater than 30 percent in four states: Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky and Tennessee.
Meanwhile, Minnesotans led the way when it came to exercise. An estimated 15.4 percent of the state's residents did not engage an any physical exercise - the best rate in the nation. Still, the state ranked 28th overall when it came to the percentage of obese adults.
Another factor in obesity rates is poverty. The five poorest states were all in the top 10 when it came to obesity rates. An exception to that rule was the District of Columbia and New Mexico. Both had high poverty rates, but also one of the better obesity rates among adults.
Officials said the report is not designed to stigmatize states with high obesity rates but to stir them into action.
"These are the states where the urgency is the greatest. They need not to wait for others to lead. They need to become the leaders," Marks said. "It's the only way that they can restore the health of their children and their families. It's the only way that they can improve their economic competitiveness."
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070827/D8R9FLT80.html
WASHINGTON (AP) - Loosen the belt buckle another notch America: Obesity rates continued their climb in 31 states last year. No state showed a decline.
Mississippi became the first state to crack the 30 percent barrier for adult residents considered to be obese. West Virginia and Alabama are just slightly behind, according to the Trust for America's Health, a research group that focuses on disease prevention.
Colorado continued its reign as the leanest state in the nation with an obesity rate projected at 17.6 percent.
This year's report, for the first time, looked at rates of overweight children ages 10 to 17. The District of Columbia had the highest percentage - 22.8 percent. Utah had the lowest percentage of overweight youth - 8.5 percent.
Health officials say the latest state rankings provide evidence that the nation has a public health crisis on its hands.
Unfortunately, we're treating it like a mere inconvenience instead of the emergency that it is," said Dr. James Marks, senior vice president at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation,a philanthropy devoted to improving health care.
Officials at the Trust for America's Health advocate for the government to play a larger role in preventing obesity. People who are overweight are at an increased risk for diabetes, heart problems and other chronic diseases that contribute to greater health care costs.
"It's one of those issues where everyone believes this is an epidemic, but it's not getting the level of political and policymaker attention that it ought to," said Jeffrey Levi, the organization's executive director. "As every candidate for president talks about health care reform and controlling health care cost costs, if we don't hone in on this issue, none of their proposals are going to be affordable."
At the same time, many believe weight is a personal choice and responsibility. Levi doesn't dispute that notion, but he said society can help people make good choices.
"If we want kids to eat healthier food, we have to invest the money for school nutrition programs so that school lunches are healthier," he said. "If we want people to be more physically active, then there have to be safe places to be active. That's not just a class issues. We've designed suburban communities where there are no sidewalks for anybody to go out and take a walk."
To measure obesity rates, Trust for America's Health compares data from 2003-2005 with 2004-2006. It combines data from three years to improve the accuracy of projections. The data come from a survey of height and weight taken over the telephone by state health departments.
Generally, anyone with a body mass index greater than 30 is considered obese. The index is a ratio that takes into account height and weight. The overweight range is 25 to 29.9. Normal is 18.5 to 24.9. People with a large amount of lean muscle mass, such as athletes, can show a large body mass index without having an unhealthy level of fat.
A lack of exercise is a huge factor in obesity rates. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found last year that more than 22 percent of Americans did not engage in any physical activity in the past month. The percentage is greater than 30 percent in four states: Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky and Tennessee.
Meanwhile, Minnesotans led the way when it came to exercise. An estimated 15.4 percent of the state's residents did not engage an any physical exercise - the best rate in the nation. Still, the state ranked 28th overall when it came to the percentage of obese adults.
Another factor in obesity rates is poverty. The five poorest states were all in the top 10 when it came to obesity rates. An exception to that rule was the District of Columbia and New Mexico. Both had high poverty rates, but also one of the better obesity rates among adults.
Officials said the report is not designed to stigmatize states with high obesity rates but to stir them into action.
"These are the states where the urgency is the greatest. They need not to wait for others to lead. They need to become the leaders," Marks said. "It's the only way that they can restore the health of their children and their families. It's the only way that they can improve their economic competitiveness."
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The reasons for obesity are many and shared by many. People eat too damn much! They eat the wrong stuff. Here's a clue, when you walk into a restaurant and the clientelle are all bulging over their belts, walk back out - especially if they are regulars! The food industry puts stuff in your food to make you feel hungrier so you will consume more and increase their profits. I'd love to hear a doctor tell someone who is overweight they should get off their arse and exercise and quit chomping down a Super sized "value" meal every day for lunch and dinner. How many medications have as side effects increased appetite and/or weight gain? Maybe we should stop prescribing them. The quality of any prepared food is of negligible nutritive content. A head of lettuce grown conventionally today has 1/40th the nutritional value of a head of lettuce grown 20 years ago. The toxins they spray on fruits and vegetables as well as the chemicals they feed to animals for meat production are poisoning our bodies and we can't process food the way it should be because our bodies are too busy trying to eliminate the toxins and repair the damage caused. That's just the start! Boy you hit a nerve[}:)]
People need to start thinking and questioning. We don't have to worry about someone else poisoning the food supply. We are already doing it to ourselves! Look at the infertility rates and cancer rates in our country. Why would the most advanced country, with the "best medical system in the world" have such terrible, debilitating diseases? Let's not forget the chemicals you put on your bodies every day - soaps, shampoos, lotions, makeup, sanitizers, etc...0 -
i think the federal government should set specific dietary guidlines for every citizen and jail them if they font follow. also, stores shouldnt even be allowed to carry food that is fattening. the federal government should run all of our lives and dictate everything that is good for us sheep.
we shall take no responsibility for our own actions and we should blame everything on everyone else.0 -
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
i think the federal government should set specific dietary guidlines for every citizen and jail them if they font follow. also, stores shouldnt even be allowed to carry food that is fattening. the federal government should run all of our lives and dictate everything that is good for us sheep.
we shall take no responsibility for our own actions and we should blame everything on everyone else.
Why don't we just ban sugar and fat? Make McDonalds pay like the tabacco industry. That will stop obesity.0 -
Barking Dog: Quote: " i think the federal government should set specific dietary guidlines for every citizen and jail them if they font follow. also, stores shouldnt even be allowed to carry food that is fattening. the federal government should run all of our lives and dictate everything that is good for us sheep.
we shall take no responsibility for our own actions and we should blame everything on everyone else." Best (sarcastic) post I have seen and quite true. Congratulations guy. No one should do what they wish. Just listen to big brother in this day and age and follow. Or maybe, a big depression like in '29 would solve all this? Few fat people then.
Or, I just hate to say it, a little parent responsiblity,(which is doubtfull anymore) might cure it. Kinda wonder if Sen. Ted Kennedy is
reading this. Seems like he should lose a few (80) lbs. or so. Another way could be to have them join up in the Military.0 -
50 lbs of T.K.s weight is from all the Chivas Regal he has slopping around in him. 0 -
I am a diabetec. Have been for 20 years. Currently wear an insulin pump. The pump, along with a proper diet, keep it well under control. My diet requires me to keep strict count of my total carbs per meal. I bolus my pump based on that number at each meal. The article slipgate posted is correct, but it really would be easy to correct the obesity problem in this country. Quit eating all those empty carbs!! "Rules" and "regulations" from the Federal government aren't going to do anything to help. Except for one thing: the labels the gov't requires to be on food stuff are wonderful! But all people look at are the sugars and calories and fat grams. Forget all those. Read the carbs per serving! They are what make you fat!!! Then people get on the "low fat" kick and eat tons of stuff labeled "low fat." If they would look, they more than likely get more carbs from low fat food than "regular" food. In a nutshell, lay off the processed stuff! Eat your veggies and whole grains. And walk about 30 minutes a day. That is all it will take to solve the epidemic! 0 -
Reasons for Obesity: lack of self-control, lack of exercise, ignorance, laziness, stupidity, complacency, did I mention laziness and lack of self-control? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Reasons for Obesity: lack of self-control, lack of exercise, ignorance, laziness, stupidity, complacency, did I mention laziness and lack of self-control?
Nemesis,
Let's not be too jugmental. You are correct, but the tone is a little harsh.
The human brain is wired to seek out food that is sweet, fatty, or otherwise contains LOTS of calories in a form that your body can pack away for later. Unlike the centuries before, when such foods were scarce or required a lot of work to gather, we can go to McDonald's and load up on 2,000 to 3,000 calories of junk with no more effort than it takes us to get down the street. And we probably drive there to boot!
Also, a lot of Americans work long hours at sedentary jobs. It's hard to find the time to exercise, much less the money and will to do so. When work consumes about 50 to 60 hours a week, sleep takes up another 60 or so, that leaves approximately 40 or so hours to have a life, deal with your family, bathe, etc. and many people just don't find the time in there to get some activity in.
Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, just a little harsh.0 -
"The dairy industry and the bread industry are powerful entities and 2 of the main causes of obesity."
roflmfao
more like everybody sitting on their rears doing nothing but drinking enough pop to float a boat and crap like that.0 -
I'm surprised no one has advocated mass conscription into the military as a way to solve this problem - everyone knows the military turns out a whole buncha Jesus, Jr's every day, so why not have them solve this? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ba Sardo
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Reasons for Obesity: lack of self-control, lack of exercise, ignorance, laziness, stupidity, complacency, did I mention laziness and lack of self-control?
Nemesis,
Let's not be too jugmental. You are correct, but the tone is a little harsh.
The human brain is wired to seek out food that is sweet, fatty, or otherwise contains LOTS of calories in a form that your body can pack away for later. Unlike the centuries before, when such foods were scarce or required a lot of work to gather, we can go to McDonald's and load up on 2,000 to 3,000 calories of junk with no more effort than it takes us to get down the street. And we probably drive there to boot!
Also, a lot of Americans work long hours at sedentary jobs. It's hard to find the time to exercise, much less the money and will to do so. When work consumes about 50 to 60 hours a week, sleep takes up another 60 or so, that leaves approximately 40 or so hours to have a life, deal with your family, bathe, etc. and many people just don't find the time in there to get some activity in.
Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, just a little harsh.
harsh? Maybe. But I've been a long-time health and gym enthusiast and I am married to a personal trainer. The fact is, if these people wanted to be healthy and made the choices to do so, they'd make the time to work out and discipline themselves to eat less and eat better.
No doubt it's much easier to get fat nowadays for just the reasons you outlined above, but that just means people have to that much more disciplined and motivated instead of falling back on excuses and rationales to NOT be healthy.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
quote:Originally posted by Ba Sardo
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Reasons for Obesity: lack of self-control, lack of exercise, ignorance, laziness, stupidity, complacency, did I mention laziness and lack of self-control?
Nemesis,
Let's not be too jugmental. You are correct, but the tone is a little harsh.
The human brain is wired to seek out food that is sweet, fatty, or otherwise contains LOTS of calories in a form that your body can pack away for later. Unlike the centuries before, when such foods were scarce or required a lot of work to gather, we can go to McDonald's and load up on 2,000 to 3,000 calories of junk with no more effort than it takes us to get down the street. And we probably drive there to boot!
Also, a lot of Americans work long hours at sedentary jobs. It's hard to find the time to exercise, much less the money and will to do so. When work consumes about 50 to 60 hours a week, sleep takes up another 60 or so, that leaves approximately 40 or so hours to have a life, deal with your family, bathe, etc. and many people just don't find the time in there to get some activity in.
Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, just a little harsh.
harsh? Maybe. But I've been a long-time health and gym enthusiast and I am married to a personal trainer. The fact is, if these people wanted to be healthy and made the choices to do so, they'd make the time to work out and discipline themselves to eat less and eat better.
No doubt it's much easier to get fat nowadays for just the reasons you outlined above, but that just means people have to that much more disciplined and motivated instead of falling back on excuses and rationales to NOT be healthy.
Bet money if we get lost in the woods and have no food I'll live longer then you. Thats all my belly is, preperation! [;)][:D]0 -
It's metabolism as well. I am military and I'm not skinny. I've leveled out at around 200 pounds which is about 10 pound overweight for my height according to the AF. I can get my weight down, but that requires spending 2 hours a day, 7 days a week at the gym. I work a fairly physically demanding job and a short day for me is 10 hours and when there's time for lunch its usually something fast and not healthy. So, personally, do I think I'm over weight? A little, but do I realistically have the time to spend in the gym? Not really, unless I want to skip on all other aspects of life like sleep which I admit I need at least 8 hours to function properly. Lets do the math: 10 hour min work day + 1 hour allotted drive time each way (for weather and getting through the gate) + 8 hours min sleep = 20 hours out of my day.
I do have the weekend, but with my fast paced job, I like to be able to just relax and slow down for a day or two.0 -
quote:I do have the weekend, but with my fast paced job, I like to be able to just relax and slow down for a day or two.
Weekends off????? USAF, right? [:D]
Weekends off. That's funny right there!0 -
Do de Rooshian air force take de weekends off ??
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Personal freedom = personal responsibility. I doubt any here want gov. nannys telling you what or how much you can eat, so you get the body you build. Those who blame their jobs, ignore the fact that diet is just as important as exercise. These people who want to make a crisis out of this may be well intentioned, but that is what the road to hell is paved with.
KEEP THE FEDS OUT OF MY FRIDGE!!![}:)][}:)][:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Azhunter
Personal freedom = personal responsibility. I doubt any here want gov. nannys telling you what or how much you can eat, so you get the body you build. Those who blame their jobs, ignore the fact that diet is just as important as exercise. These people who want to make a crisis out of this may be well intentioned, but that is what the road to hell is paved with.
KEEP THE FEDS OUT OF MY FRIDGE!!![}:)][}:)][:D]
ROFL! They ARE telling you what and how much to eat - it is called the food pyramid! It is taught in schools. Are they forcing you to eat the foods on it? Nope! But you can bet most people are following this whether they want to or not. The worst part is that the food pyramid is upside down, so people think they are eating well when they stuff their face with bread and milk when in fact those are the 2 foods that are the probably the worst things that you can consume.0 -
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
I am a diabetec. Have been for 20 years. Currently wear an insulin pump. The pump, along with a proper diet, keep it well under control. My diet requires me to keep strict count of my total carbs per meal. I bolus my pump based on that number at each meal. The article slipgate posted is correct, but it really would be easy to correct the obesity problem in this country. Quit eating all those empty carbs!! "Rules" and "regulations" from the Federal government aren't going to do anything to help. Except for one thing: the labels the gov't requires to be on food stuff are wonderful! But all people look at are the sugars and calories and fat grams. Forget all those. Read the carbs per serving! They are what make you fat!!! Then people get on the "low fat" kick and eat tons of stuff labeled "low fat." If they would look, they more than likely get more carbs from low fat food than "regular" food. In a nutshell, lay off the processed stuff! Eat your veggies and whole grains. And walk about 30 minutes a day. That is all it will take to solve the epidemic!
You are absolutely wrong on this. Carbs are a fad promoted by the people who have a stake in the Atkins diet. Calorie content is the only reliable measure of how 'fattening' a food is.
Dont believe me? Watch any TV show about super-morbidly obese people. When they get put in the hospital, what do the doctors prescribe: a low CALORIE diet, or a low CARB diet?0 -
quote:You are absolutely wrong on this. Carbs are a fad promoted by the people who have a stake in the Atkins diet. Calorie content is the only reliable measure of how 'fattening' a food is.
Dont believe me? Watch any TV show about super-morbidly obese people. When they get put in the hospital, what do the doctors prescribe: a low CALORIE diet, or a low CARB diet?
No, I don't believe you, and know for a fact what I'm talking about. It comes from years of having to eat "right" or die. The ideal is that BOTH would be low. But if you look at labels and count the carbs, if it is a low carb food, chances are VERY GOOD that it is low calorie also. For people like me with diabetes, carbs are NOWHERE near a FAD, and high carb foods are much "worse" than just a high calorie food. They are a matter of life and death, and that doesn't come from the "Atkins people." Look at most of your food labeled "low calorie" and you will still see lots of carbs. Bad food. It all has to do with how your body processes food. Like I said..lay off the processed food and eat lots of vegetables. That with exercise and you WILL lose weight. All low carb! As far as doctors...I don't get my info from "watching any TV show". When docs begin to prepare a patient for gastric by-pass or lap band surgery, the first thing they do is put them on a liquid diet...low in BOTH carbs and calories.0 -
quote:Dont believe me? Watch any TV show about super-morbidly obese people. When they get put in the hospital, what do the doctors prescribe: a low CALORIE diet, or a low CARB diet?
And we believe everything doctors say? The Atkins diet has been shown to be more effective for loosing weight and maintaining that loss than the AMA diet.0 -
A good friend lost over 100 pounds on Atkins, and in so doing, stabilized his diabetes so he no longer needs insulin. Even so, I don't think I would trust such a one-sided diet. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
No, I don't believe you, and know for a fact what I'm talking about. It comes from years of having to eat "right" or die. The ideal is that BOTH would be low.
But you said we could forget all about calories? Which is it? Are calories important or are they not?
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
But if you look at labels and count the carbs, if it is a low carb food, chances are VERY GOOD that it is low calorie also.
Look at most of your food labeled "low calorie" and you will still see lots of carbs. Bad food.
Contradicting yourself in the same paragraph does little to help your argument [;)]0 -
quote:quote:
Originally posted by iluvguns
No, I don't believe you, and know for a fact what I'm talking about. It comes from years of having to eat "right" or die. The ideal is that BOTH would be low.
But you said we could forget all about calories? Which is it? Are calories important or are they not?
quote:
Originally posted by iluvguns
But if you look at labels and count the carbs, if it is a low carb food, chances are VERY GOOD that it is low calorie also.
Look at most of your food labeled "low calorie" and you will still see lots of carbs. Bad food.
Contradicting yourself in the same paragraph does little to help your argument
First topic....IDEALLY both should be low. But IDEAL rarely happens, unless your talking about dill pickles! [xx(] For diabetics, and anybody who wants to lose weight, carbs are important. Very important, because they (carbs) are just empty calories.
Second...I did not contradict myself. The majority of the low carb foods ARE also low calorie. But a LOT of low calorie foods are NOT low carb. That is a fact. Pick up a package and read the labels sometime.
As I mentioned in my first post...lay off the processed food (white bread, etc), eat lots of veggies (raw is best) and walk just 30 minutes a day. That WILL work. And it is LOW CARB!
When you have to do this stuff to keep your quality of life, as I have for the past 20 years, and even more so now that I pump insulin continuously instead of injecting it, you learn what is right and wrong. When you have 20 years of experience doing it successfully, then give me a call and we can talk. Until then, you really don't know what you are talking about.0 -
Carbohydrates are just a roundabout way of describing calories. Calories ultimately are the basic unit of heat energy. They are much easier to calculate because calories can describe both a food's energy content and the amount of exercise performed. So, if you consume 500 calories, then burn 500 calories by running, you know exactly where you stand. Carbohydrates, on the other hand, have no real equivalent in terms of exercise... you cant tell someone how many carbohydrates you burned, for example. Calories therefore are much better suited for the IDEAL weight loss system: lots of exercise.
But, whatever works for you. I am not diabetic so I cannot speak from that perspective; all I know is that by watching my calorie intake and burning more than I consume, I have gone from a high of 220 lb in high school, to my current weight of 185 lb. I do eat lots of breads, pasta, and potatoes, which is high-calorie food. But, as long as I burn those calories off, I will suffer no ill effects from them, just as with any food.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
quote:Originally posted by Ba Sardo
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Reasons for Obesity: lack of self-control, lack of exercise, ignorance, laziness, stupidity, complacency, did I mention laziness and lack of self-control?
Nemesis,
Let's not be too jugmental. You are correct, but the tone is a little harsh.
The human brain is wired to seek out food that is sweet, fatty, or otherwise contains LOTS of calories in a form that your body can pack away for later. Unlike the centuries before, when such foods were scarce or required a lot of work to gather, we can go to McDonald's and load up on 2,000 to 3,000 calories of junk with no more effort than it takes us to get down the street. And we probably drive there to boot!
Also, a lot of Americans work long hours at sedentary jobs. It's hard to find the time to exercise, much less the money and will to do so. When work consumes about 50 to 60 hours a week, sleep takes up another 60 or so, that leaves approximately 40 or so hours to have a life, deal with your family, bathe, etc. and many people just don't find the time in there to get some activity in.
Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, just a little harsh.
harsh? Maybe. But I've been a long-time health and gym enthusiast and I am married to a personal trainer. The fact is, if these people wanted to be healthy and made the choices to do so, they'd make the time to work out and discipline themselves to eat less and eat better.
No doubt it's much easier to get fat nowadays for just the reasons you outlined above, but that just means people have to that much more disciplined and motivated instead of falling back on excuses and rationales to NOT be healthy.
Bet money if we get lost in the woods and have no food I'll live longer then you. Thats all my belly is, preperation! [;)][:D]
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I dont think being overweight is as bad for you as they make out,weight loss is a multi-million dollar business,I am overweight,my cholesterol is 185 my tri-glicides "spelling" is 85,, I just had my yearly two weeks ago,my docter called me big as a cow and healthy as a horse,, 0
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