Would You Snitch on your Neighbor ?
For watering the yard during a drought?
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If I had a neighbor endangering children or committing a felony, yes. Watering his lawn, no. In fact, I'm not sure a city has the right to restrict a paying customer from all the water he pays for. It's a service and a public utility, and they charge him for what he uses. No one has tested in in the Supreme Court yet, but I don't think it would past muster since you buy the water and they sell it. 0 -
quote: I don't think it would past muster since you buy the water and they sell it.
It would pass muster! Kind of like game laws. Water, like a game animal, is a natural resource. The government can tell you how many and what you can legally kill and when. They control the resource, even though the resource might reside on your land. They also control water, and even though you purchase it from a utility, they can limit how much they sell you, and place limits on how much you purchase. Thankfully, looking out my office window right now, it is pouring down here!0 -
Snitch ??
Offcourse.. I don't like him... plus his 3 and 4 year old kids have scratched my car - but I don't have any photographic evidence to make a claim, but I saw it.
Now I'm just hoping to catch it on camera...0 -
Last week I put in two 275 gal tanks to catch the water from my downspouts on the back of the house. The only problem is that 99% of the rain has been bypassing me [8]. Oh, and I live 10 minutes from lake Lanier that is the reservoir for much of middle GA [ and ALA and FLA].
We have had less than a 1/4" of rain the past week. It's still put over 50 gals in one tank [ and about none in the other. My gutters were installed poorly[:(!] ].
We have also started putting a pail in one side of the kitchen sink. It's amazing how much water normally goes down the drain.
This has opened my eyes to how much water is wasted. It is completely stupid to use drinking water for watering grass or washing cars [ neither of which I do even when rain is plentiful[:D] ]0 -
Part 2. North GA is being screwed by FL, Alabama and the feds. They have been releasing twice as much water as the lake is receiving. The Al governor wrote a letter to Bush asking him not to grant disaster status and to keep the water flow up. It is my understanding that most of AL does not have water restrictions. 0 -
Very informative thread.
We're learning who the snitches are.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Crittergitter
Very informative thread.
We're learning who the snitches are.
I agree...
We're also learning who will screw over their community for the sake of a green lawn0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Crittergitter
Very informative thread.
We're learning who the snitches are.
I agree...
We're also learning who will screw over their community for the sake of a green lawn
Not only. Look at the news on the drought, US Army Core of Engineers says there's plenty of water and government is definitely overreacting. I bet it's a move to get some federal money by the governor by declaring it a disaster.0 -
quote: US Army Core of Engineers says there's plenty of water and government is definitely overreacting.
Aside from the fact that the Army COE is .gov (is that an oxy-moron?)
seems to me most of this "emergency" could have been avoided long ago with a little fore-sight. .gov dependency has it's consequences.
"Please, .gov, supply me with my needs, and when you can't, I'll just snitch on my neighbors.<bow down>"
"P.S, .gov, I'm a little short on insurance, food, money, and self-sufficiency, can you help me out with all of the above except maybe the last one? I'll snivel my way into that one, by turning on my neighbors, and relying on YOU!"0 -
quote:Originally posted by Crittergitter
seems to me most of this "emergency" could have been avoided long ago with a little fore-sight. .gov dependency has it's consequences
Leaving out the rest of your rant, I'm curious as to what "a little fore-sight" means?
You also mentioned self-sufficiency, which I am all for.....My question is: How does one prepare for the for the worst drought in more than a century?
Does this mean I need a 10,000 gallon cistern under my house?0 -
Happy Nanoq do you really have to water ice?[}:)][:p] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
Does this mean I need a 10,000 gallon cistern under my house?
Why not? If you live in an area that is known to drought why wouldn't you do that?0 -
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
It would pass muster!
Not according to some lawyers here. There is a man here who was in danger of damaging his foundation due to last years water resrtictions. He had a foundation repair company tell him to either get some moisture in the ground, or it was going to break the slab. He went against the water restrictions and watered around the foundation.
The city warned him, then fined him, then cut his water off. He sued the city, and a local judge ruled that since the city "sold" water, they could not portion it. Either sell it, or not, it's a "public" utility and the consumer can purchase what ever he pays for.
The city lost, and it's going through apeals now. Voluntary restrictions are one thing, but according to the court, he was only purchasing what was "needed", and failure to provide it was going to open the city up to the liability of being responsible for the foundation damage.
The judge told the city, "You have taken the stand to provide water to the citizens and have them pay for it. There is no competition in the city for water sales. Either provide what the people what they need, or open the utility up to outside competition. Restrict usage, and you are liable for the damage it causes if there is no way for the citizen to purchase it from another provider."
Water is not a natural resource if you purchase it. It becomes uncontrolled at that point and becomes a commercial "product" just like bottled water.0 -
...No, I'm not the water police...[;)] 
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No, Rack Ops. Not my point.
As stated in the thread, people will be out of water in 60 days!
And if no-one waters their lawns,[8)] it may stretch out to 100 days!
That's got to be a great comfort to people. A 20 to 40 day survival factor.
That's what I mean by a little fore-sight. I'm not blaming the citizens that find themselves locked into this thing, in that sense. It's too late for that, and it serves no purpose in this instance.
It's accountability. .gov They are "in control" and do nothing until "Operation critical." Ratting out your neighbor for trying to keep his landscaping investment alive is not going to solve the problem. Obviously. Way too late for that.
There is no accountability here. How many times do the citizens of this country need to be shown that .gov can't run anything reliably?
Do I need to make a list?
Amtrak.
Social Security.
You finish the list.
Turning on your neighborhood friends and fellow citizens won't solve the problem. .gov is the problem.
And they saw this potential problem long before now, just like they knew about the inferior dikes in New Oreans, the potential for devastating fires in California, the... You Finish The List!
If you depend on .gov to protect you, (you finish the sentence.)0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
Why not? If you live in an area that is known to drought why wouldn't you do that?
I don't live in an area prone to drought.
For that matter, neither do the folks who are the subject of our discussion.0 -
So basically you don't have a solution.....just "Government screws everything up"
Gotcha
Who else is going to manage the national water supply?0 -
Zebra -- are you in Georgia? If so then you do not need to snich. The local counties here are checking water usage and compairing them to winter month usage. If there is a spike in amount used; then they are assuming that excess water is being used and a warning is issued. If it happens again, I have heard that the fine could be as high as 1000 dollars. However, the interesting thing about GA is that our state is transporting water to Florida to save the clams there. The drought is the worst in 100years, so they say to the public. Go figure! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
So basically you don't have a solution.....just "Government screws everything up"
Gotcha
Who else is going to manage the national water supply?
Why do you assume peoples' water supply is "national?"0 -
quote:Originally posted by Crittergitter
Why do you assume peoples' water supply is "national?"
Since the foundation of civilization the water supply has been considered to be part of the public trust0 -
Trust? I have to pay for water rights, and my private well. Neither is "Public."
They are purchased. private. Not on trust. On Deed!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Crittergitter
Trust? I have to pay for water rights, and my private well. Neither is "Public."
They are purchased. private. Not on trust. On Deed!
Nope....public
You've got about about a thousand years of law against you0 -
You may be right.
Try to steal water in Idaho, and see how long your thirst is quenched.
Water rights mean things. As do words.0 -
I said no way would I snitch a neighbor out to the authorities but I didn't say I wouldn't talk to the neighbors about it if it was a problem.
In my neighborhood we talk among each other and work things out.
Not run to the Authorities.0
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