Masons
my dad was a mason, I wanted to know how do you apply, do you have to be invited? or do ask to join?
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The reason for the secrets etc. is only because a man should be a man of his word. So we give our word not to reveal the secrets. What are the secrets? Simple meaningless ones. The idea is that the hardest secret to keep is one that is unimportant and meaningless. Lets say the secret word is "car", what difference does it make if I tell you that? It makes no difference at all, except that I gave my word not to tell anyone. Why because a man should be a man of his word! Our ceramonies are somewhat similar to the Elks, just alittle more pomp and ceramony. To be a mason one must believe in the one true God, "God has 10,000 names and no man know them all". For those of you who don't recognize that it is from the O.T. The Bible is on our alter to remind us that God is watching, and to help remind us of what He teaches. We do not talk about religion because humans tend to argue about it. How can you be a better man if you argue? We Do incourage everyone to practice the religon of their choice because it keeps God in the forefront and that helps us to be better men. We do not discuss politics for the same reason. We do incourage everyone to get involved with good government because it makes our country stronger and better. Because not all Masons are Christian, Jesus' name is not use. The exception is York Rite. We Christians may join that concordant body, if we. choose. There the name of Jesus is used, so non Christians join Scottish Rite. I am not a Shiner, I don't believe in riding pretend motorsickles, so I can't speak about them. People leave Masonry for two reasons. They loose interest or because they are asked to leave. The reason for being asked to leave is because of immoral behavior. They will politly be told that this behavior must be stopped, if it isn't then they will be asked to leave. I belong to two US lodges and one outside the US, at no time has any oath, promise, or anything ever been said or implyed that is against God, Jesus, the Bible, or country. If I ever were to stand trial or did anything wrong, I would not want a Mason on the jury. He would be more likely to vote to hang me, if he ever found out I was a Mason and it was shown that I violated my obligation to be an upstanding and morale God fearing man. For that is what I gave my word to be. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mcaso
To be a mason one must believe in the one true God, "God has 10,000 names and no man know them all". For those of you who don't recognize that it is from the O.T.
I must have missed that verse when I read the Old testament. I did, however, come across Exodus 23:13.
quote:Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by mcaso
To be a mason one must believe in the one true God, "God has 10,000 names and no man know them all". For those of you who don't recognize that it is from the O.T.
I must have missed that verse when I read the Old testament. I did, however, come across Exodus 23:13.
quote:Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.
That's because it's not in there. Like so much of the glorified treehouse club called masonry, it has a "religious" sound to it so a lot of marginally literate folks swallow it hook, line and sinker. "Secrets so that we know a man is a man of his word?" The actual Bible tells us to "let your yes be yes, and your no be no." (James 5:12 NIV) That should settle it. Of course, the plurality (all of equal value) of "religions" notion is a big thing today with people who don't know the Living Lord Jesus Christ. But there will come a day when EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue confess that JESUS CHRIST is LORD--and whatever has been done in secret will be revealed, much to the shame and disappointment of many. [:(][^]0 -
I realize that this is not the passage about the 10,000 names. I am still looking for that passage. This is just to get you started. Also, maybe my putting a coma after "believe in the one true God" caused some confussion. As the part about God having 10,000 names has nothing to do with Masonry. It was my attempt at trying to explain God goes by more than one name. I applogize for any confussion.
Names of God:
"ELOHIM" (or Elohay) is the first name for God found in the Bible, and it's used throughout the Old testament over 2,300 times. Elohim comes from the Hebrew root meaning "strength" or "power", and has the unusual characteristic of being plural in form. In Genesis 1:1, we read, "In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth." Right from the start, this plural form for the name of God is used to describe the One God, a mystery that is uncovered throughout the rest of the Bible. Throughout scripture, Elohim is combined with other words to describe certain characteristics of God. Some examples: Elohay Kedem - God of the Beginning: (Deuteronomy 33:27). Elohay Mishpat - God Of Justice: (Isaiah 30:18). Elohay Selichot - God Of Forgiveness: (Nehemiah 9:17). Elohay Marom - God Of Heights: (Micah 6:6). Elohay Mikarov - God Who Is Near: (Jeremiah 23:23). Elohay Mauzi - God Of My Strength: (Psalm 43:2). Elohay Tehilati - God Of My Praise: (Psalm 109:1). Elohay Yishi - God Of My Salvation: (Psalm 18:47, 25:5). Elohim Kedoshim - Holy God: (Leviticus 19:2, Joshua 24:19). Elohim Chaiyim - Living God: (Jeremiah 10:10). Elohay Elohim - God Of Gods: (Deuteronomy 10:17).
"EL" is another name used for God in the Bible, showing up about 200 times in the Old testament. El is the simple form arising from Elohim, and is often combined with other words for descriptive emphasis. Some examples: El HaNe'eman - The Faithful God: (Deuteronomy 7:9). El HaGadol - The Great God: (Deuteronomy 10:17). El HaKadosh - The Holy God: (Isaiah 5:16). El Yisrael - The God Of Israel: (Psalm 68:35). El HaShamayim - The God Of The Heavens: (Psalm 136:26). El De'ot - The God Of Knowledge: (1 Samuel 2:3). El Emet - The God Of Truth: (Psalm 31:6). El Yeshuati - The God Of My Salvation: (Isaiah 12:2). El Elyon - The Most High God: (Genesis 14:18). Immanu El - God Is With Us: (Isaiah 7:14). El Olam - The God Of Eternity (Genesis 21:33). El Echad - The One God: (Malachi 2:10). "ELAH" is another name for God, used about 70 times in the Old testament. Again, when combined with other words, we see different attributes of God. Some examples: Elah Yerush'lem - God of Jerusalem: (Ezra 7:19). Elah Yisrael - God of Israel: (Ezra 5:1). Elah Sh'maya - God of Heaven: (Ezra 7:23). Elah Sh'maya V'Arah - God of Heaven and Earth: (Ezra 5:11).
"YHVH" is the Hebrew word that translates as "LORD". Found more often in the Old testament than any other name for God (approximately 7,000 times), the title is also referred to as the "Tetragrammaton," meaning the "The Four Letters". YHVH comes from the Hebrew verb "to be" and is the special name that God revealed to Moses at the burning bush. "And God said to Moses, 'I AM WHO I AM; and He said, thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you... this is My eternal name, and this is how I am to be recalled for all generations'" (Exodus 3:14-15). Therefore, YHVH declares God's absolute being - the source of everything, without beginning and without end. Although some pronounce YHVH as "Jehovah" or "Yaweh," scholars really don't know the proper pronunciation. The Jews stopped pronouncing this name by about 200 A.D., out of fear of breaking the commandment "You shall not take the name of YHVH your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7). (Today's rabbis typically use "Adonai" in place of YHVH.) Here are some examples of YHVH used in scripture: YHVH Elohim - LORD God: (Genesis 2:4). YHVH M'kadesh - The LORD Who Makes Holy: (Ezekiel 37:28). YHVH Yireh - The LORD Who Sees/provides: (Genesis 22:14). YHVH Nissi - The LORD My Banner: (Exodus 17:15). YHVH Shalom - The LORD Of Peace: (Judges 6:24). YHVH Tzidkaynu - The LORD Our Righteousness: (Jeremiah 33:16). YHVH O'saynu - The LORD our Maker: (Psalm 95:6).
Names of God: The Lord Revealed in YHVH is the Lord Revealed in Yeshua (Jesus)
The LORD who revealed Himself as YHVH in the Old testament is revealed as Yeshua (Jesus) in the New testament. Jesus shares the same attributes as YHVH and clearly claims to be YHVH. In John 8:56-9, Jesus presents himself as the "I AM." When challenged by some Jewish leaders regarding His claim of seeing Abraham (who lived some 2000 years earlier), Jesus replied, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM." Those Jewish leaders understood that Jesus was claiming to be YHVH. This is clearly established when they tried to stone Him to death for what they considered blasphemy under Jewish Law. In Romans 10:9, Paul declares, "if you confess with your mouth Yeshua as LORD... you shall be saved." Immediately thereafter, in Romans 10:13, Paul backs up this declaration by quoting the Old testament, "Whoever will call upon the name of the LORD (YHVH) will be saved" (Joel 2:32). Calling on Yeshua (Jesus) as Lord is the same as calling Him YHVH, because Yeshua (Jesus) is YHVH (LORD), the Messiah foretold throughout the entire Old testament.0 -
WTH Is "GOD" running from the Law, man he has alot of Alias's. 0 -
Ugh, I got it. Clear to me ! 0 -
The Truth about "Episcopalian":[/url]
1.Nearly all high-ranking US government Freemasons have been Episcopalians, including George Washington and Franklin D. Roosevelt.
2.Though a mere 1% of US population, Episcopalians have strangley had a stranglehold on the Supreme Court - by far the number one affiliation. So much for the wonders of "Freedom of Religion" which the 1776 forced on non-Catholic, non-Masonic America. Now America has a crime and incarceration rate 50% higher than the second place country, Communist Russia. Episcopalian Church of America answers to the Queen of England and the Pope. It is properly called the American branch of the Anglican Church of England.
3.Many secular statistics agencies do not consider the Episcopalian Church Christian.
4.The Episcopalian Church has been the number one political advocate for homosexuality in the US. Just as under Bush -- also Episcopalian -- homosexuality has exploded such as under no other US president - and is now the law of the land. This church wants anarchy and mass perversion to reign in the US.
5."It has been reported that true Freemasonry Lodges were established in the cellars of Episcopalian and Presbyterian Churches." [3]
6.Most past Grand Masters of the Pennsylvania Grand Lodge have been Episcopalians.
7.Albert Pike, 33 degree Freemason, Rosicrucian, Illuminatus, author of the Masonic Bible Morals and Dogma in 1871 (handed to initiates worldwide for over 100 years), writer of the Scottish Rite system of degrees and properly called father of modern masonry, and worshipper of Lucifer (as his Bible attests), "was, to his death, an Episcopalian Christian", according to 33 degree Freemason Jim Tresner at MIT university.
www.vaticanassassins.org/reagan.htm
If you want to learn how the Vatican is at the top of Freemasonry watch google videos "Roman Empire Rules Today".
Then the entire video series "Total Onslaught" by Walter Veith.
The Vatican has been turning this Protestant nation into a Catholic papal state since the beginning with Jacobin Jefferson and Franklin. The pilgrim founders demanded the first amendment state/religion article inclusion.
The Vatican running our education/indoctrination system, thru UNESCO, hides our countries history, including how the Jesuits on order from the Pope fomented the civil war and assassinated President Lincoln, going on to build the Pentagon.
Everybody has heard of Wilks Booth as the assassin of Lincoln, but there were others. Four others were hanged in a military trial. One hanged was the mother of John Surratt who escaped back to the Vatican, later returned to the US to stand trial for the assassination conspiracy plot of US President Linclon, only to have a stacked jury leading to his aquittal.
www.pacinst.com/terrorists/preamble.html0 -
I also heard that wherever there are four Episcopalians there's always a fifth. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mowart
I also heard that wherever there are four Episcopalians there's always a fifth.
a fifth of what?0 -
Ramtin said,"marginally literate."
Heh-heh-heh...0 -
People in real secret organizations, and not boys clubs, intentionally forget their secrets as soon as they are told so as not to repeat the secret. 0 -
Secret?..What secret? 0 -
"Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead." Old Hell's Angel saying. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
People in real secret organizations, and not boys clubs, intentionally forget their secrets as soon as they are told so as not to repeat the secret.
One of the spooks told me the first phrase they taught him in the Russian Language School was "Don't shoot, I know secrets."0 -
Coincidence? Hmmmmmmmm...0
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