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RustyBones
in the opinion of this fine board, is it better to show up with a resume or to show up empty handed and fill out their standard application? Do most jobs even care? Im not talking fortune 500 ceo here either.. [:D]
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  • Jacob2008
    Dunno, But I guess its better to have it and not need it than not have it.
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  • MosinNagantDisciple
    quote:Originally posted by RustyBones
    in the opinion of this fine board, is it better to show up with a resume or to show up empty handed and fill out their standard application? Do most jobs even care? Im not talking fortune 500 ceo here either.. [:D]


    If the job actually has an application to fill out, 99.9% will not want to look at your resume. They prefer the standardized format of the application.
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  • Old-Colts
    Have a well written resume and keep it concise. Make sure it isn't fraught with misspelled words and misused grammar. Some managers can see through the errors and focus on capabilities, but the majority will probably eliminate a person based on a poorly authored resume.

    Generally an application is used by Human Resources and may or may not convey what you want the employer to know about you. A resume on the other hand is reviewed by HR for placement purposes as well as the potential hiring managers.
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  • buschmaster
    every one I went to wanted both. the ones where I got an interview, they had both on hand to go over.
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  • Locust Fork
    Its good to have a resume....if only to show that you are serious about getting and having a job. Applications are fine....but if you can get a resume together that LOOKS like something I definately would.
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  • spanielsells
    Have a resume whether it is needed or not. Fill out the application, attach a copy of the resume. If they say "No resumes, please" then don't submit one (always follow instructions when applying for a job).

    I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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  • drobs
    You need both. If nothing else you need your resume so you can fill out their application. Also it helps to give your interviewer a copy of your resume at the start of the interview. Bring multiple copies.
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  • He Dog
    You need to have a resume or CV for any situation but "no resumes please" Make it concise, pen a cover letter to go with it asking for an interview. DO NOT present the resume on floral paper or other fru frum sales document stationary. Plain white, gray or tan paper is fine. Use no logos for your name or initials.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by drobs
    You need both. If nothing else you need your resume so you can fill out their application. Also it helps to give your interviewer a copy of your resume at the start of the interview. Bring multiple copies.


    Agreed. I always have five copies of my resume on-hand for interviews. One copy is always kept for me, the rest because I've had three people interviewing me at the same time before. I figure it is better to have more than you need than less.
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  • JamesRK
    I thought the resume was usually an attachment to the application.
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  • dawnie
    When I appiled for my job with johnson controls,I had to fill out an application over the website,and post a resume,and then when I went in for the interview I had to fill out another application and bring a resume,plus I had to fax them a copy of my high school diploma.
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  • chuck
    YUPPIES Are big on resume, when I was hiring Electricians if they showed up with a resume, I figured they didn't know anything and some one wrote them up a letter that didn't know any thing about the Job he was going for, NEVER hired any body with a resume
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  • Captplaid
    quote:Originally posted by chuck
    YUPPIES Are big on resume, when I was hiring Electricians if they showed up with a resume, I figured they didn't know anything and some one wrote them up a letter that didn't know any thing about the Job he was going for, NEVER hired any body with a resume


    WHAT?????
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  • Captplaid
    Personally, I think the 1 page resume is bull. If you've moved around for a company with different skills and experiences, show it.

    The one page resume is trendy BS.

    I hate on line applications.
    I hate C&P resumes on line.
    I realize that is the way the industry has gone, but it's clumsy and time consuming.
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  • RustyBones
    Well i like the good old fashioned, walk in and talk to the owner/manager face to face and let him really see what kind of person you are. I realize this doesn't really happen anymore though.
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  • RustyBones
    and yes, I officially hate online applications [:(!] how impersonal can it get?
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  • Colt Super
    "Have a resume whether it is needed or not. Fill out the application, attach a copy of the resume. If they say "No resumes, please" then don't submit one (always follow instructions when applying for a job)."

    Regardless of them asking for "no resume's", I always brought several to the interview in a leather folder.

    I would also find out the name of the hiring authority and FedEx him one so he'd have it the day before the interview. I also had a photo of myself on the cover page of the resume' - so he would know that I wasn't a lunatic-fringe looking person.

    In applying for a job, I always found that it was important to bring your name forward to whoever was doing the hiring, not HR. NOT following the HR instructions was more likely to get you hired than if you did. For the interaction with HR, though, just follow the instructions.

    Also, after the second day, make follow up phone calls to both HR and the hiring authority.

    There was one job I wanted badly, so I sent HR a large box of chocolate chip cookies. I got it.

    Doug
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