SIG232 or Doug Wilson
I saw in passing a few days ago on the news the tailend of a story on "How a concealed weapons permit in Oregon may soon be harder to get". Did you guys happen to get this story? What is the skinny? I could not find it in the papers. Thanks.
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I have not seen that article. I do get the notices from the Oregon Shooting Organization and am usually aware of legal changes.
There are always laws floating around and being pushed in the legislature. As I said on another post today we must always be vigilant. If you are looking the other way when a bill comes down the pipe you can lose some rights.
Oregon tends to be very liberal in the large populated cities and college towns. The country is the exact opposite. We do have to be very carefull in this state to make sure our interests are protected.
Check in with Oregon Concealed Carry at this link to look for changes in the laws within Oregon. http://oregonconcealedcarry.com/
Here is the link to the state organization: http://oregonfirearms.org/alertspage/03.16.07alert.html
I do see where Ginny Burdick who is Oregons anti-gun nut is trying to shut down all the gun ranges. I don't know if this is an anti-lead enviormental concern or something else. I will check this out.
Thanks for the heads up!0 -
This is about a new bill that allows the state police to supervise all gun ranges in the state. The problem is it requires all ranges to have a rangemaster and specifies the training for all rangemasters and requires that all guns brought into the range be recorded in a log. Thats regisrtation and nobody is going to do that.
It the law passes that will effectively close all the ranges because nobody will allow their guns to be registered in a log. We will see what happens with this law. Time to start writing again.
Shooters would just go to the woods to shoot up here to avoid any range requirements that they did not like. But it would close down all the ranges.0 -
Here is the bill:
Senate Bill 1012
Sponsored by COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the
measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to
consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's
brief statement of the essential features of the measure as
introduced.
Directs Department of State Police to establish safety
procedures for shooting ranges and policies and procedures for
certifying rangemasters. Allows counties and cities to regulate,
restrict or prohibit discharge of firearms on shooting ranges.
Removes certain exemptions from liability for alleged noise
control violations by shooting ranges.
Creates crime of negligently damaging property with firearm or
bow. Punishes by maximum of six months' imprisonment, $500 fine,
or both.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to shooting ranges; creating new provisions; and
amending ORS 166.171, 166.172, 166.180 and 467.131.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. { + (1) As used in this section, 'shooting range '
means a public or private shooting range, shooting gallery or
other area designed, built or used for the purpose of target
shooting.
(2) The Department of State Police shall establish by rule
safety procedures for shooting ranges. The rules shall include
policies and procedures for the certification of rangemasters.
(3) Shooting ranges shall:
(a) Control gunfire so that bullets or other projectiles do not
cross the plane of the shooting range boundary and do not enter
property adjacent to the shooting range, absent consent by the
owner or occupant of the adjacent property;
(b) Ensure that gates and doors are secured sufficiently to
prevent unauthorized entry onto the premises; and
(c) Ensure that local noise control ordinances are observed.
(4) All shooting ranges shall employ a rangemaster, who shall
be certified by the department and shall be physically present at
the shooting range at any time that firearms or other weapons are
being discharged. The rangemaster shall ensure that: (a) Weapon safety rules are prominently posted and are followed
by all members and visitors while on the premises of the shooting
range;
(b) All visitors to the shooting range provide identification
and that their names are recorded in a log;
(c) Alcoholic beverages are not consumed or possessed by anyone
on the premises; and
(d) All firearms or other weapons that are brought onto the
premises of the shooting range are recorded in a log book. The
rangemaster shall cause to be recorded at least the following
information:
(A) The make and model of the weapon;
(B) The caliber of the weapon;
(C) The name and address of the person bringing the weapon onto
the premises; and
(D) The date and time that the weapon is brought onto the
premises. + } SECTION 2. ORS 166.171 is amended to read:
166.171. (1) A county may adopt ordinances to regulate,
restrict or prohibit the discharge of firearms within their
boundaries.
(2) Ordinances adopted under subsection (1) of this section may
not apply to or affect:
(a) A person discharging a firearm in the lawful defense of
person or property.
(b) A person discharging a firearm in the course of lawful
hunting.
(c) A landowner and guests of the landowner discharging a
firearm, when the discharge will not endanger adjacent persons or
property.
{ - (d) A person discharging a firearm on a public or private
shooting range, shooting gallery or other area designed and built
for the purpose of target shooting. - }
{ - (e) - } { + (d) + } A person discharging a firearm in
the course of target shooting on public land that is not inside
an urban growth boundary or the boundary of a city, if the
discharge will not endanger persons or property.
SECTION 3. ORS 166.172 is amended to read:
166.172. (1) A city may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict
or prohibit the discharge of firearms within the city's
boundaries.
(2) Ordinances adopted under subsection (1) of this section may
not apply to or affect { - : - }
{ - (a) - } a person discharging a firearm in the lawful
defense of person or property.
{ - (b) A person discharging a firearm on a public or private
shooting range, shooting gallery or other area designed and built
for the purpose of target shooting. - }
SECTION 4. ORS 166.180 is amended to read:
166.180. Any person who, as a result of failure to use ordinary
care under the circumstances, wounds any other person { + or
damages another's property + } with a bullet or shot from any
firearm, or with an arrow from any bow, shall be punished by
imprisonment in the county jail for a period not to exceed six
months, or by a fine not to exceed $500, or both. In addition,
any person so convicted shall forfeit any license to hunt,
obtained under the laws of this state, and shall be ineligible to
obtain a license to hunt for a period of 10 years following the
date of conviction.
SECTION 5. ORS 467.131 is amended to read:
467.131. Any owner, operator or lessee of a rifle, pistol,
silhouette, skeet, trap, blackpowder or other shooting range in
this state shall be immune from civil or criminal liability based
upon an allegation of noise or noise pollution so long as:
(1) The allegation results from the normal and accepted
activity on the shooting range;
(2) The owner, operator or lessee { - complied - } { + is
in compliance + } with any applicable noise control law or
ordinance { - existing at the time construction of the shooting
range began or no noise control law or ordinance was then
existing - } ; { - and - }
(3) The allegation results from activity on the shooting range
occurring between 7 a.m. and { - 10 - } { + 7 + } p.m. or
conducted for law enforcement training purposes { - . - } { + ;
and
(4) The allegation does not result from activity on the
shooting range on Christmas or Thanksgiving. + }0 -
I had heard of this a couple of weeks ago, and contacted my State legislators.
This is another creepy, leftists try at trying to disarm us.
Although, as Sig points out, the only impact it would have - other than the financial losses of the indoor ranges - would be to send more of us out to the woods, to shoot.
I, however(he said smugly), simply have to walk out my back door to shoot, or open the window and shoot from my family room, if the weather is WAY too bad to go outside.
Are you an Orygunian ??
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Heck yea I am an Orygonian! I live in the south eastern non liberal normal part of the state (K-Falls). I tried that Willamette valley (Eugene) stuff for a few years and it was just nasty. Poor old SIG232 living up there in the den of iniquity makes me kinda sad for him. Your in a pretty good spot aren't you Doug? 0 -
(For all those reading this and contemplating a move to Orygun) This is a foul State. None of it is worth the effort to visit, let alone relocate to. Portland and Salem are where the asset-less homosexuals move to from San Francisco. The State is way too rainy. The State government is corrupt. If you like cops, there are too few - if you don't, there are too many. The women are ugly. The men are stoopid, redneck, drunken, lumberjacks, who can't drive anything smaller than a D-8. An entry level house is $450,000. Rent starts at $3,000 per month, and the Indians are taking over the whole damned State. There are bears and cougars prowling the streets and eating the people that the hundreds of muggers miss.
If I had half a brain, I'd get the hell out of here, but that would break my parole. I got caught sticking up a quarter car wash. Didn't even get no money.
In other words, BHAVIN, it's OK here.
Doug
The end-of-the-earth hole I live in is maybe the best part of the worst State in the Union0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
(For all those reading this and contemplating a move to Orygun) This is a foul State. None of it is worth the effort to visit, let alone relocate to. Portland and Salem are where the asset-less homosexuals move to from San Francisco. The State is way too rainy. The State government is corrupt. If you like cops, there are too few - if you don't, there are too many. The women are ugly. The men are stoopid, redneck, drunken, lumberjacks, who can't drive anything smaller than a D-8. An entry level house is $450,000. Rent starts at $3,000 per month, and the Indians are taking over the whole damned State. There are bears and cougars prowling the streets and eating the people that the hundreds of muggers miss.
If I had half a brain, I'd get the hell out of here, but that would break my parole. I got caught sticking up a quarter car wash. Didn't even get no money.
In other words, BHAVIN, it's OK here.
Doug
The end-of-the-earth hole I live in is maybe the best part of the worst State in the Union
That should keep some of the California crowd outa here! Scared me so much I was thinkin of moving south, say Camby, or some place like that.[:D]0 -
We can always hope !!
"I got mine, now the rest of you, stay the hell out !!"
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Wow Canby! Long haul there SIG. This state would be paradise without all of the Californians, the bad ones I mean (had to throw that in in case there are some good ones living here). Man, Doug you had better go West if you venture out you aren't to far from the nasty belt there. I was just looking at the map. 0 -
quote:"I got mine, now the rest of you, stay the hell out !!"
+1 [8D]0 -
Hello Moonshine. What area of this horrible state that NOBODY SHOULD MOVE TO are you from? 0 -
If I go very far West, I'm in the terrible, man killer, Pacific Ocean.
Doug0
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