Legality of carrying while on a trip??
To save myself a couple hours of wasted time trying to find buried laws, I'm wondering if anybody knows in general what's ok and what's not ok to do while on the road.
I live in Illinois so of course, I can only dream of having a concealed permit. But, it is 'legal' in IL to transport a gun, under the seat as long as it is in the case and is not loaded with a clip in it.
So first, I'm wondering what happens once you cross into Indiana, Ohio, or PA., being more lenient? Not having a permit, I wouldn't attempt to carry anything on me or anything like that. But I'm wondering if you could leave a clip loaded in it and still be legal?
Then, what about having a handgun in a hotel room? I sleep with a gun nearby at home and I'm starting to think I wouldn't mind having it with me on long road trips. Should I assume this would be illegal everywhere, even though I'm renting the room?
I could lock it up in a suitcase whenever I left and nobody would know I had one with me. I could do it and nobody would know but I'd feel better if I knew I wasn't doing anything illegal.
Anybody that does not have a permit, still keep something handy on the road?
I live in Illinois so of course, I can only dream of having a concealed permit. But, it is 'legal' in IL to transport a gun, under the seat as long as it is in the case and is not loaded with a clip in it.
So first, I'm wondering what happens once you cross into Indiana, Ohio, or PA., being more lenient? Not having a permit, I wouldn't attempt to carry anything on me or anything like that. But I'm wondering if you could leave a clip loaded in it and still be legal?
Then, what about having a handgun in a hotel room? I sleep with a gun nearby at home and I'm starting to think I wouldn't mind having it with me on long road trips. Should I assume this would be illegal everywhere, even though I'm renting the room?
I could lock it up in a suitcase whenever I left and nobody would know I had one with me. I could do it and nobody would know but I'd feel better if I knew I wasn't doing anything illegal.
Anybody that does not have a permit, still keep something handy on the road?
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...you need to go and check each states "different" laws of each state you would be traveling. Thanks to the liberal anti-gun whackos..[;)]
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In Indiana you can't legally carry a handgun outside of your home or property unless you have a permit. Doesn't matter if it's unloaded, under your seat, or in the trunk. Now there is US Code title 18 Part 1 chapter 44 that says:
? 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
I don't know if Indiana's law supercedes this or does this trump Indiana's laws. I'm sure there's somebody out there that will know.0 -
Good advice; I know that I have carried a handgun while traveling but that it was probably illegal at the time; I was young and stupid, but don't regret my decision, as I ended up having the great fun of having to shoot a raccoon that had feline distemper camping out in the middle of nowhere. Not that I think it would have hurt me, but it was rather.... disturbing to have it walk up and stagger around and almost step in the fire. I THINK it was distemper, as I've seen coons act similarly before, but whatever, it was sick and at very least I did the poor beast a service, at best maybe saved myself from??? I buried it (I had a shovel too) and poured bleach on the blood, so hopefully nothing else got sick.
Anyhow, though the coon probably didn't pose me a threat, it all comes down to the idea that I'd rather face a jury than a grave. IF I thought I were going to be staying somewhere dangerous, I'd take a gun. If I don't, I won't. Plain and simple. I surely wouldn't take one into DC, or NYC, or any of the other really restrictive places.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jonk
IF I thought I were going to be staying somewhere dangerous, I'd take a gun. If I don't, I won't. Plain and simple. I surely wouldn't take one into DC, or NYC, or any of the other really restrictive places.
That sounds a bit contradictive to me. [:o)]0 -
A good place to start looking for information is www.packing.org. Click "state ccw info" at the top of the page. Click on the state. Scroll down to "Car/Gun law summary" and "Peaceable journey law summary". Way too much info to try to post it here. 0 -
You could also look into getting a non-resident permit from Florida, which would be honored in some (check packing.org, etc) states. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
Just don't carry it like John Popper from the Blues Traveler. In a secret compartment with your "stash" and switchblade knife. [;)]
I can't wait until I can afford to carry my "stash" like he carries his..[:D]0 -
I too would suggest that you look into getting an non-resident permit in Utah, which I believe gives you the most states legal to carry. Google the state and concealed carry and you will find the sites that can and will help you get the permit. You will be required to take a approved course within your home state and they will tell you who is approved and who is not.
Florida is another alternative. It will help you carry legally in many states.
That said you must become informed as to how all the Carry Laws work within each state you intend to travel to. They are all different and you must know the difference to avoid trouble.0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
A good place to start looking for information is www.packing.org. Click "state ccw info" at the top of the page. Click on the state. Scroll down to "Car/Gun law summary" and "Peaceable journey law summary". Way too much info to try to post it here.
[B)] Good God. And we have the right to bear arms. LOL What a laugh. After an hour of reading, I'm going to have to give it a break. Somewhat covered two states. Too tired to interpret this BS.
Looks like you've got to have a permit to transport anything out of state. Then, even if you have a permit, if you follow the laws where I'm going, you may as well not be carrying anything at all.
By the time you retrieve your ammo from the 'locked compartment' or get the gun out of your 'locked case', then load it, you're gonna be dead anyway.
Does anybody follow this crap?
If you end up having to use it, I'd guess the criminal would go free and I'd end up in jail for not following the rules depending on which judge I get in which county, in which state.
After reading through this, it's even more amusing that lawmakers would actually believe we need more gun laws on the books.0 -
I took the easy way out. I moved to Virginia and only go to states where the Virginia/Florida permit/license is honored. [:D] 0 -
You could just move to NC. I can legally carry concealed not only in my state, but also in SC, GA, FL, TN, VA, probably Kentucky and West Virginia too. Just made sure that I could at least get the neighboring states too, but actually I can carry in 30 something states I believe. 0 -
I carry concealed in whatever state I'm in. I have done so since 1965.
I have never been frisked or had a LEO ask to search my vehicle or hotel room.
I am low profile person - short hair, pretty obsequious, not a drunk or doper.
I am always cheerful, friendly and helpful to Law Enforcement. And, except for firearms, obey the law.
I have used my carry weapon in assisting Law Enforcement on more than one occasion, and have never gotten anything but thanked for it.
Doug0
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