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  • spanielsells
    This is certainly easier to stomach than what Donna Shalala did while I was a student at Univ. Wisconsin-Madison.

    God forbid you turn down a request for a date from a homosexual. When you do, you are branded a homophobe and you're given a choice of not graduating or attending a gay-appreciation class.

    I know you're doubting this is true. However, I was offered this exact choice in 1989 and it came directly from the horse herself.
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  • nemesisenforcer
    But whatever you do, don't let them see you reading a Bible.
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  • nemesisenforcer
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    This is certainly easier to stomach than what Donna Shalala did while I was a student at Univ. Wisconsin-Madison.

    God forbid you turn down a request for a date from a homosexual. When you do, you are branded a homophobe and you're given a choice of not graduating or attending a gay-appreciation class.

    I know you're doubting this is true. However, I was offered this exact choice in 1989 and it came directly from the horse herself.

    This is preposterous!!!!!!!!!! Does this mean that I could have forced all the GIRLS who turned me down for dates to attend a white-trash appreciation class or not graduate. Unbelievable.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    This is certainly easier to stomach than what Donna Shalala did while I was a student at Univ. Wisconsin-Madison.

    God forbid you turn down a request for a date from a homosexual. When you do, you are branded a homophobe and you're given a choice of not graduating or attending a gay-appreciation class.

    I know you're doubting this is true. However, I was offered this exact choice in 1989 and it came directly from the horse herself.

    This is preposterous!!!!!!!!!! Does this mean that I could have forced all the GIRLS who turned me down for dates to attend a white-trash appreciation class or not graduate. Unbelievable.
    Only if you can successfully make the case that you didn't choose to be white trash... (btw, I really hate that term)
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  • nemesisenforcer
    spaniel,

    What was the deal with your story? How did Shalala even find out about it? Is it school policy to make someone asked out by a homo go out with them? This sounds like a real humdinger of a story and great illustrative case for political correctness on steroids.

    BTW, I wear the white trash label with pride.[:D]
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    spaniel,

    What was the deal with your story? How did Shalala even find out about it? Is it school policy to make someone asked out by a homo go out with them? This sounds like a real humdinger of a story and great illustrative case for political correctness on steroids.

    BTW, I wear the white trash label with pride.[:D]


    I was out with some friends at a bar on State Street. They were boozing, I wasn't a drinker then (I was there just to be with my friends). I was chatting it up with this guy (apparently my GAYDAR wasn't working that night) and he eventually asked me if I wanted to dance. I was actually polite, told him, "No thanks, I don't dance with guys."

    He was a student at UW and apparently, he took offense, because I was telephoned by some desk jockey in Shalala's office that I had to report to her to address a complaint -- she wouldn't tell me what it was, just that I had to be there. I'm thinking to myself, "WTH is this all about?"

    Anyway, I find out that I'm a homophobe because I was insensitive and didn't appreciate the gay student's needs or some malarky like that. I attempted to explain that I'm not gay and that I simply turned down a request for a date, but apparently, my side of the story didn't mean anything and I was told that I had to attend a sensitivity class or be expelled from school.

    I was a senior, my primary interest at the time was graduating. I was not interested in getting expelled and then suing or anything of that nature. I just wanted my degree and I wanted to get the hell out of Madison, so I agreed.

    People wonder why I hate Shalala as much as I do. They thought that while she was in Clinton's cabinet, that I hated her because she was part of the Administration. I had to explain multiple times that one thing had nothing to do with another, and that it had everything to do with my personal experience with the biatch.

    Gays were a protected class at UW even back then.
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  • nemesisenforcer
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    spaniel,

    What was the deal with your story? How did Shalala even find out about it? Is it school policy to make someone asked out by a homo go out with them? This sounds like a real humdinger of a story and great illustrative case for political correctness on steroids.

    BTW, I wear the white trash label with pride.[:D]


    I was out with some friends at a bar on State Street. They were boozing, I wasn't a drinker then (I was there just to be with my friends). I was chatting it up with this guy (apparently my GAYDAR wasn't working that night) and he eventually asked me if I wanted to dance. I was actually polite, told him, "No thanks, I don't dance with guys."

    He was a student at UW and apparently, he took offense, because I was telephoned by some desk jockey in Shalala's office that I had to report to her to address a complaint -- she wouldn't tell me what it was, just that I had to be there. I'm thinking to myself, "WTH is this all about?"

    Anyway, I find out that I'm a homophobe because I was insensitive and didn't appreciate the gay student's needs or some malarky like that. I attempted to explain that I'm not gay and that I simply turned down a request for a date, but apparently, my side of the story didn't mean anything and I was told that I had to attend a sensitivity class or be expelled from school.

    I was a senior, my primary interest at the time was graduating. I was not interested in getting expelled and then suing or anything of that nature. I just wanted my degree and I wanted to get the hell out of Madison, so I agreed.

    People wonder why I hate Shalala as much as I do. They thought that while she was in Clinton's cabinet, that I hated her because she was part of the Administration. I had to explain multiple times that one thing had nothing to do with another, and that it had everything to do with my personal experience with the biatch.

    Gays were a protected class at UW even back then.


    so this guy reported you for something that took place outside of class, OFF CAMPUS, after hours, that in no way interfered with his educational experience or autonomy, and the administration still though it worthwhile to not only listen to this guy's story, but reprimand you for your choice to not dance with him? Talk about asinine.

    and people say conservative heterosexuals are intolerant bigots. . .
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    spaniel,

    What was the deal with your story? How did Shalala even find out about it? Is it school policy to make someone asked out by a homo go out with them? This sounds like a real humdinger of a story and great illustrative case for political correctness on steroids.

    BTW, I wear the white trash label with pride.[:D]


    I was out with some friends at a bar on State Street. They were boozing, I wasn't a drinker then (I was there just to be with my friends). I was chatting it up with this guy (apparently my GAYDAR wasn't working that night) and he eventually asked me if I wanted to dance. I was actually polite, told him, "No thanks, I don't dance with guys."

    He was a student at UW and apparently, he took offense, because I was telephoned by some desk jockey in Shalala's office that I had to report to her to address a complaint -- she wouldn't tell me what it was, just that I had to be there. I'm thinking to myself, "WTH is this all about?"

    Anyway, I find out that I'm a homophobe because I was insensitive and didn't appreciate the gay student's needs or some malarky like that. I attempted to explain that I'm not gay and that I simply turned down a request for a date, but apparently, my side of the story didn't mean anything and I was told that I had to attend a sensitivity class or be expelled from school.

    I was a senior, my primary interest at the time was graduating. I was not interested in getting expelled and then suing or anything of that nature. I just wanted my degree and I wanted to get the hell out of Madison, so I agreed.

    People wonder why I hate Shalala as much as I do. They thought that while she was in Clinton's cabinet, that I hated her because she was part of the Administration. I had to explain multiple times that one thing had nothing to do with another, and that it had everything to do with my personal experience with the biatch.

    Gays were a protected class at UW even back then.


    so this guy reported you for something that took place outside of class, OFF CAMPUS, after hours, that in no way interfered with his educational experience or autonomy, and the administration still though it worthwhile to not only listen to this guy's story, but reprimand you for your choice to not dance with him? Talk about asinine.

    and people say conservative heterosexuals are intolerant bigots. . .
    Your actions on-campus or off-campus were treated equally. It wasn't unsual for kids caught drinking underage to be put on probation (school, not from a judge) if caught by the cops off-campus.

    Which in and upon itself, is rather humorous considering that the school's reputation with Playboy Magazine has been for years that it won't rank Madison as a party school because, "We don't rank amateurs with professionals."
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  • Colt Super
    Thank you, elv.

    Doug
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