Gunfight at the O.K. Corral
Tonight, at 8:45 PM (2045) Pacific Standard Time, TCM (Turner Classic Movies) is showing the 1957 version of this picture, starring Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster.
I think this one is more better than the recent one.
D.
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I think this one is more better than the recent one.
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I think the "Tombstone" with Val Kilmer was betterer...
But thanks for the heads up anyway.
***No fair Editing Doug[:D]***0 -
Thanks.......got my Tivo set now. Always liked that one. [:D][:D][:D][:D]
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i always liked Tombstone 0 -
Hollywood has twisted this piece of history so much that I don't know that we will ever know the truth about what really happened that day but it does make for good entertainment. The 1957 version is one of the best versions in my opinion. The history channel doesn't agree with much of Hollywood's versions but that's alright. We do know for a fact though that the fight took place on a narrow street and not at the OK Corral and that the area that the fight took place was smaller than some of our living rooms. Marksmanship was not a priority but who shot first and who stayed calm. Beyond that, history becomes clouded by lies, purjured testimony, and myths kept alive by Hollywood. And that is part of the interest that keeps it alive, otherwise it is just another case of two rival gangs settling a score and establishing control. 0 -
more better ??? 0 -
Still like "My Darling Clementine" (1946)---Henry Fonda (Wyatt Earp) and Victor Mature (Doc Holliday). Good old black & white. 0 -
Sorry, I meant MUCH more better.
Glad to see you are still paying attention!!
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quote:Originally posted by Pinhead
Hollywood has twisted this piece of history so much that I don't know that we will ever know the truth about what really happened that day but it does make for good entertainment. The 1957 version is one of the best versions in my opinion. The history channel doesn't agree with much of Hollywood's versions but that's alright. We do know for a fact though that the fight took place on a narrow street and not at the OK Corral and that the area that the fight took place was smaller than some of our living rooms. Marksmanship was not a priority but who shot first and who stayed calm. Beyond that, history becomes clouded by lies, purjured testimony, and myths kept alive by Hollywood. And that is part of the interest that keeps it alive, otherwise it is just another case of two rival gangs settling a score and establishing control.
This amuses me no end. The only thing different between Hollywood and written history is the Raisinets. Historians choreograph history no more or less than Spielberg and Scorcese. Take any two historical accounts of the same event and you're looking at two different visions of the past. Facts, my ass.0 -
Watched it tonight. Although historically inaccurate, it's entertaining and great to see Lancaster and Douglas in their prime. I like the older movies because they were not preoccupied or burdened with the need for special effects. 0 -
I enjoyed it a lot, again.
The only thing I thought was glaringly innaccurate, was that nobody had dirt on them - also the sets were a bit too tidy.
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Betterer!!![:p] 0 -
DW, I normally don't bother to answer your wandering around in the empty space of your mind but I have noticed that you have never let "facts", proven or otherwise, interfer with you c&p obsessions. Have fun and be careful not to break your toys. 0 -
Thanks for the up, never saw that one.
DANG, when Doc threw the knife and the guy straight died.... might trade my guns for knives huh ?0 -
I saw an enjoyable movie fifteen or twenty years ago called (I think) Sunset. The theme of the movie was James Garner, playing Wyatt in later years, was called to Hollywood as a technical advisor for a movie they were shooting about Tombstone in which Tom Mix was played by Bruce Willis.
In the O.K. Corral scene, Tom was explaining to Wyatt that he wanted a lot of action in the scene, lots of fast draw and gunsmoke. Wyatt went along with him and explained what happened but lied. The flashbacks in Wyatt's mind showed deliberate drawing, cocking, aiming and firing. The Mclaury brothers were trying to get to their Winchesters in the saddle scabbards on their horses and Billy Clanton was the only one firing back. Holiday shot Tom McLaury with his 10 gauge Greener while Tom was trying to get his rifle off the saddle. More of a massacre than a gunfight.
I think this was a more real account of what happened.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I enjoyed it a lot, again.
The only thing I thought was glaringly innaccurate, was that nobody had dirt on them - also the sets were a bit too tidy.
Doug
I thought that Billy Clanton actually survived the gunfight or at least one of the Clanton gang did. Also, didn't Doc Holliday use a very long barreled revolver or small shotgun?
Again, I may be very wrong but I'm not going to Google an answer. Someone out there on GB must know for sure.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Pinhead
DW, I normally don't bother to answer your wandering around in the empty space of your mind but I have noticed that you have never let "facts", proven or otherwise, interfer with you c&p obsessions. Have fun and be careful not to break your toys.
Careful, your insincerity is showing. Of course you could always disagree with cause rather than pout; articulate a reasoned counter-argument; illustrate the factual advantage of historical discourse over Hollywood movie scripts. You could have, but of course you didn't. Scholars like you never do, content simply to substitute impertinence. How...predictable.
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...don't ask, it's the only old movie "cowboy" pic I had/have...[:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
quote:Originally posted by Pinhead
DW, I normally don't bother to answer your wandering around in the empty space of your mind but I have noticed that you have never let "facts", proven or otherwise, interfer with you c&p obsessions. Have fun and be careful not to break your toys.
Careful, your insincerity is showing. Of course you could always disagree with cause rather than pout; articulate a reasoned counter-argument; illustrate the factual advantage of historical discourse over Hollywood movie scripts. You could have, but of course you didn't. Scholars like you never do, content simply to substitute impertinence. How...predictable.
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Thats was soooooooooooooo.........smooth DWS that I am not sure he even knows what hit him![;)]0 -
Quote: Didn't Billy Clanton survive or one of the Clantons?
Slow Hand - Ike Clanton had no stomach for the fight and Earp told him to get out, he ran in to a Photographic Studio and watched the "battle" from there. In a special that PBS put on they said Holiday used a ten gauge Greener SXS, but you could be right. Never believe what you see on TV. Or the screen.0 -
john carr - didnt you kill john bennet ramsey ? 0 -
No, he spelled it with a K. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. 0 -
You guys consistantly spot phonies long before I do.
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why don't we just ask the mythbusters ??????
wrench0 -
quote:Originally posted by dakotashooter2
Betterer!!![:p]
Betterest.0 -
No way hdwrencjh we would like to hear what really happened not there made up version. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
Sorry, I meant MUCH more better.
Glad to see you are still paying attention!!
Doug
Muches more betterer would do too, Doug! [8D] Thanks for the head's up. Let me change that to use a bit from Zulu: Muches more betterest! [:D]0 -
God... I sure love our language.
For those of you not paying attention, that would be English, Si?
I have never done a c&p here.
What the hell is pinhead(name is apropos), and what did I ever do to it?
Doug.0 -
Please, someone give me a clue...
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
Please, someone give me a clue...
Doug
OK.
Mr. Mustard in the library with an HK P9.0 -
aha.
D.0
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