BLACKWATER II
Rice issues new rules for Blackwater USA
By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 30 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ordered federal agents on Friday to ride with Blackwater USA escorts of U.S. diplomatic convoys in Baghdad to tighten oversight after a shooting in which private guards are accused of killing 13 Iraqi civilians.
She also ordered video cameras installed in Blackwater vehicles.
The steps will require the State Department to deploy dozens of additional in-house Diplomatic Security agents to accompany Blackwater guards and are the first in a series of moves Rice is expected to take to boost control of contractors the agency relies on to protect diplomats in Iraq.
They are aimed at "putting in place more robust assets to make sure that the management, reporting and accountability function works as best as it possibly can," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack.
The measures, which also include recording radio traffic between the embassy and diplomatic convoys and improving communications between those vehicles and U.S. military units in the vicinity, were implemented amid intense criticism of the department's security practices in Iraq and Blackwater's role.
They also come as Iraqis and U.S. lawmakers are clamoring for clarification of the now nebulous jurisdiction and authority under which the State Department's private security guards work.
On Thursday, the House passed legislation that would place all private government contractors in Iraq under U.S. criminal statutes. The Bush administration has expressed concerns about the proposed amendments but has pledged to work with Congress on improvements before the Senate takes up the bill in coming weeks.
The bill's sponsor, Rep. David Price, D-N.C., said Friday that Rice's move was welcome but overdue.
"It goes without saying that contract personnel who are armed and authorized to use deadly force ought to be closely monitored," he said in a statement. "The secretary still needs to address the essential question of accountability: How will rogue individuals who commit criminal acts be brought to justice?"
In ordering changes, Rice accepted preliminary recommendations from an internal review board she created after the Sept. 16 incident in which Blackwater guards are accused of opening fire on Iraqi civilians in a main square in Baghdad.
Blackwater contends its employees came under fire first, but the Iraqi government and witnesses have disputed that, saying the guards opened fire without provocation.
McCormack did not say that previous practices lacked proper safeguards to ensure accountability, but noted that the practices would now be enhanced for all the department's private security contractors, including Blackwater. The company, with about 1,000 employees in Iraq, is the largest of three private firms that guard U.S. diplomats in the country.
The new rules initially will apply only to Blackwater details because the initial recommendations cover just Baghdad where the company operates. This could be expanded to include the other two firms, Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, which work in the north and south of Iraq, McCormack said.
The United States has not made conclusive findings about the incident, though there are multiple investigations under way to determine what happened. The FBI on Thursday took control of what had been a State Department probe, in part to prepare for the possibility the incident may be referred to the Justice Department for prosecutions.
The orders issued Friday were recommended by a separate commission Rice created to look into the Baghdad embassy's overall security practices. McCormack maintained they are not intended to imply that the other investigations have determined Blackwater employees may have violated procedures.
The panel is being led by Patrick Kennedy, one of the most senior management experts in the U.S. foreign service. Rice also brought in outside experts, including retired Gen. George Joulwan, a former NATO commander in Europe; Stapleton Roy, a retired veteran diplomat; and Eric Boswell, a former State Department and intelligence official.
Kennedy has been in Baghdad for nearly a week. Rice had asked for a preliminary review by Friday.
McCormack noted that not all members of Kennedy's team were in Baghdad yet and stressed that Rice's decision to implement changes did not preclude further revisions to security policies.
Before Rice's orders, Diplomatic Security agents only accompanied U.S. convoys on an "ad hoc" basis, according to McCormack. Now, at least one agent will be in every convoy, he said.
It was not immediately clear how many more agents that would require, but McCormack said it would number in the "dozens." Department officials have refused to say how many Diplomatic Security agents are in Iraq, citing security concerns.
In addition, video cameras had not previously been mounted in convoy vehicles as a matter of policy and radio traffic had been monitored but not recorded by the embassy, McCormack said. Rice's orders also mandate that convoys have direct contact with tactical U.S. military teams in their vicinity, he said.
"In case there is an incident, we will have an improved capability to ensure that we have all the possible information we can collect to determine exactly what happened," McCormack said. "And, we want to make sure that we have full connectivity, up and down the chain, with the military operating in the area."
The State Department has counted 56 shooting incidents involving Blackwater guards in Iraq this year. All were being reviewed as part of the comprehensive inquiry Rice ordered.
By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 30 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ordered federal agents on Friday to ride with Blackwater USA escorts of U.S. diplomatic convoys in Baghdad to tighten oversight after a shooting in which private guards are accused of killing 13 Iraqi civilians.
She also ordered video cameras installed in Blackwater vehicles.
The steps will require the State Department to deploy dozens of additional in-house Diplomatic Security agents to accompany Blackwater guards and are the first in a series of moves Rice is expected to take to boost control of contractors the agency relies on to protect diplomats in Iraq.
They are aimed at "putting in place more robust assets to make sure that the management, reporting and accountability function works as best as it possibly can," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack.
The measures, which also include recording radio traffic between the embassy and diplomatic convoys and improving communications between those vehicles and U.S. military units in the vicinity, were implemented amid intense criticism of the department's security practices in Iraq and Blackwater's role.
They also come as Iraqis and U.S. lawmakers are clamoring for clarification of the now nebulous jurisdiction and authority under which the State Department's private security guards work.
On Thursday, the House passed legislation that would place all private government contractors in Iraq under U.S. criminal statutes. The Bush administration has expressed concerns about the proposed amendments but has pledged to work with Congress on improvements before the Senate takes up the bill in coming weeks.
The bill's sponsor, Rep. David Price, D-N.C., said Friday that Rice's move was welcome but overdue.
"It goes without saying that contract personnel who are armed and authorized to use deadly force ought to be closely monitored," he said in a statement. "The secretary still needs to address the essential question of accountability: How will rogue individuals who commit criminal acts be brought to justice?"
In ordering changes, Rice accepted preliminary recommendations from an internal review board she created after the Sept. 16 incident in which Blackwater guards are accused of opening fire on Iraqi civilians in a main square in Baghdad.
Blackwater contends its employees came under fire first, but the Iraqi government and witnesses have disputed that, saying the guards opened fire without provocation.
McCormack did not say that previous practices lacked proper safeguards to ensure accountability, but noted that the practices would now be enhanced for all the department's private security contractors, including Blackwater. The company, with about 1,000 employees in Iraq, is the largest of three private firms that guard U.S. diplomats in the country.
The new rules initially will apply only to Blackwater details because the initial recommendations cover just Baghdad where the company operates. This could be expanded to include the other two firms, Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, which work in the north and south of Iraq, McCormack said.
The United States has not made conclusive findings about the incident, though there are multiple investigations under way to determine what happened. The FBI on Thursday took control of what had been a State Department probe, in part to prepare for the possibility the incident may be referred to the Justice Department for prosecutions.
The orders issued Friday were recommended by a separate commission Rice created to look into the Baghdad embassy's overall security practices. McCormack maintained they are not intended to imply that the other investigations have determined Blackwater employees may have violated procedures.
The panel is being led by Patrick Kennedy, one of the most senior management experts in the U.S. foreign service. Rice also brought in outside experts, including retired Gen. George Joulwan, a former NATO commander in Europe; Stapleton Roy, a retired veteran diplomat; and Eric Boswell, a former State Department and intelligence official.
Kennedy has been in Baghdad for nearly a week. Rice had asked for a preliminary review by Friday.
McCormack noted that not all members of Kennedy's team were in Baghdad yet and stressed that Rice's decision to implement changes did not preclude further revisions to security policies.
Before Rice's orders, Diplomatic Security agents only accompanied U.S. convoys on an "ad hoc" basis, according to McCormack. Now, at least one agent will be in every convoy, he said.
It was not immediately clear how many more agents that would require, but McCormack said it would number in the "dozens." Department officials have refused to say how many Diplomatic Security agents are in Iraq, citing security concerns.
In addition, video cameras had not previously been mounted in convoy vehicles as a matter of policy and radio traffic had been monitored but not recorded by the embassy, McCormack said. Rice's orders also mandate that convoys have direct contact with tactical U.S. military teams in their vicinity, he said.
"In case there is an incident, we will have an improved capability to ensure that we have all the possible information we can collect to determine exactly what happened," McCormack said. "And, we want to make sure that we have full connectivity, up and down the chain, with the military operating in the area."
The State Department has counted 56 shooting incidents involving Blackwater guards in Iraq this year. All were being reviewed as part of the comprehensive inquiry Rice ordered.
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Sounds like the party is over for Blackwater's cowboys. 0 -
I fail to see how more accountability could harm anyone.
Might be easier to see how the lying, media-savvy terrorists use civvies as "cover". Something we all know to be true. A few well viewed Youtube vids could put the BS to rest right quick.
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quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
quote:Originally posted by kristov
Sounds like the party is over for Blackwater's cowboys.
Yea, that's a real "party" over there. I can tell you've been shot at and have shot others as well. Unbelievable comment! [B)]
In order to make this more understandable: By party I mean the previous relatively relaxed oversight of Blackwater's contract employees, by both the company and the DoD while on assignment. Party is not intended to indicate that there is a wing-ding going on in Iraq with a band of merry makers enjoying a festive atmosphere provided by our Iraqi hosts. I trust this clairifies any misunderstanding.0 -
"deploy dozens of additional in-house Diplomatic Security agents to accompany Blackwater guards"
That sounds really cost effective.
Why dont they just use the diplomatic security agents? Give each one a machine gun.0 -
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quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
Thanks kristov. [^]
I'm sorry I took your comment the wrong way.
Jim
We are going to have to rename you "wrongway hobby" as you seem to do that a lot. Don0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
Thanks kristov. [^]
I'm sorry I took your comment the wrong way.
Jim
We are going to have to rename you "wrongway hobby" as you seem to do that a lot. Don
At least I am man enough to take responsibility for my actions/errors and extend sincere apologies for any hard feelings created. Can't recall seeing that as a common trait here. If fact, extending an olive branch here typically results in someone "lighting in up." [;)]
Jim "Wrongway" HobbyGuy [:D]
Every time I have been wrong I have apologized. Just has not happened yet. Don0 -
No problem Jim, it was just a misunderstanding. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by kristov
No problem Jim, it was just a misunderstanding.
Damn, I hate happy endings! Don0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
quote:Originally posted by kristov
No problem Jim, it was just a misunderstanding.
Damn, I hate happy endings! Don
Even with your massages?0 -
hmmm....if i remember correctly during vietnam, pilots had to make visual contact with MIG's before engaging them so they wouldnt shoot down an innocent MIG.[:o)]
now, BW men must have someone over their shoulder giving the command to fire? give me a break.
no ones going to fear them anymore. theyve lost the edge.0 -
That's not the only problem with this scheme; more Diplomatic Security guys deployed means fodder for more grisly body counts, too many vehicles in convoy, not enough guns on target with some guy taking up space next to you, more cross-talk on already overcrowded and insecure nets, it seems all the Dims are interested in is making court cases in the middle of a shooting war. That idiot Klinton started treating every military action as a legal proceeding, including trying to catch OBL; look where that got us! 0 -
Boo hoo hoo... you mean these super stealth black ops wetworks Delta ninja style operators aren't being allowed to do as they please when they please anymore? Why, if they'd wanted rules, regulations, and discipline, they might have stayed with the military that's suffering some manpower issues right now!
Sucks to be them.[}:)]
Oh, who am I kidding?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
They're just scared outside observers are gonna see them for the lot of butt-scratching profiteering losers that they are.0 -
For $20,000 a month, I would leave the armed services and join BW also! 0 -
Lord forbid hired mercenaries have anyone around making sure they don't screw up the mission. Sorry, can't feel sympathy for anyone who gets paid several times what actual infantry gets paid complaining about suddenly having a fraction of the accountability and oversight our troops do imposed.
Really, we should just get rid of 'em and have equivalently trained soldiers who actually work within the Army command chain taking their place. Only real role for them in the country is to do things real soldiers legally can't, and we've got no business doing that anyway.0 -
The risks these workers assume are underscored by the infamous 2004 ambush in Fallujah, in which four Blackwater contractors were murdered and mutilated. To date, Blackwater has lost 30 contractors. For all anyone knows, last month's incident could have turned into another Fallujah had Blackwater's contractors reacted differently. The details are still terribly unclear. (IT WAS PAYBACK TIME) [:D] 0 -
56 times since 2005 that loose rounds have squirted out of the firearms of BW personnel in OIF / OEF.
Also, they are now being looked at for possible smuggeling of stolen weapons from outside sources into Iraq FOR THEIR OWN USE.
These guys are no better than armed "BLACKBEARDS", DRESS LIKE PIRATES TOO.
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHH MATEY !!!!!!0
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