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  • OleDuk
    Let me ask you fellers sum'pn related to wood but along a different line.

    Went into Lowe's a few days ago and saw some clear, pretty , white wood. It was labeled as aspen which I've never seen before since I live in tidewater VA.
    What do you fellows that know wood and do craft/construction work use it for?
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by cbxjeff
    Thanks to all for the info. This tree fell on it's own and although I have cut a ton of firewood from it I hate to cut a trunk member that large. I guess I have bought too much oak lumber!

    Don, do you have Eric's phone number?



    He's at WT Indy[;)] 800-551-2251 Tell him I sent ya......
    Don
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  • nyforester
    quote:Originally posted by OleDuk
    Let me ask you fellers sum'pn related to wood but along a different line.

    Went into Lowe's a few days ago and saw some clear, pretty , white wood. It was labeled as aspen which I've never seen before since I live in tidewater VA.
    What do you fellows that know wood and do craft/construction work use it for?


    Aspen is basically Poplar. It could be quaking aspen, big tooth aspen, ect.......there are many sub-species. The wood is considered a hardwood because the tree looses its leaves, however it has the wood structure of softwood. It is very soft and commonly used as trim molding, and carving.

    Full cord measures 4' x 8' x 4' = 128 cubic feet
    (I sell this for $170 delivered locally)

    Face cord is 1/3 of a full cord - 4' x 8' x 16" = 42.6 cubic feet
    (I sell this for $70 delivered locally)
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  • allen griggs
    nyforester: Zebra posted that he has a 100 year old black walnut tree, he wants to know what it is worth. Let's say for the sake of argument that it is straight, and has a 3 foot trunk. What is it worth?

    I got a truck load of apple once, for firewood. An apple orchard was replanting, they had bulldozed 50 acres of big old apple trees, and were begging people to come and get it.
    Never again! Damn stuff is too hard to split. Also, not very big, and the trunks are crooked.
    I used it to smoke some steaks and fish, I was not that impressed. I prefer mesquite.
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  • tsr1965
    allen griggs,

    The value of a tree on the stump can only be an estimate, compared to the true value. A good timber buyer will absolutely not pay veneer prices for standing timber. That is where a lot of people who sell the standing timber on their lots to the highest bidder get screwed, or should I say screw themselves.

    An example would be if you wanted that walnut tree taken out, and i looked at and estimated there was 2000 board feet in the tree, and it was worth $3.50 per board foot, for a total of $7000.00, and paid you for it. Then when i cut it it was hollow or imperfect in the middle, and it was only worth 75 cents a bord foot.. On the flip side of that, the buyer who pays for saw logs and runs into veneer, and makes a killing...but the land owner gets screwed.

    As for the worth of that walnut...need more info to scale it...like how long is it straight for, and how big at the smallest of the straight.
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  • allen griggs
    OK, let's take those figures. If that tree were perfect it would be worth $7,000 retail. That is, after cutting, limbing, hauling, sawing, drying, warehousing etc.
    What would they pay the landowner?
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  • tsr1965
    No, that would be wholesale to the saw mill, not to the end user. A tree that is worth 3-4 dollars a board foot will be 6-10 once cut into boards and finnished. On the average 50% is what it will bring to the land owner, some harvesters will operate for less, some more when it is being done on the mill scale. Need more dimensions other than the size of the base to determine the volume of how many board feet the tree is though.
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  • nyforester
    I have been running a logging company now for 17 years. I buy standing timber and hire logging contractors to cut, skid and process the trees to my specifications. Then I re-sell the logs and pulpwood/firewood. All prices are set at contract signing between the landowners, loggers, truckers(in some cases), and myself. Everyone gets paid as to the grade and volume of the trees because everyone gets to see the scale slips. Its the fairest way to sell and buy wood.
    As far as the black walnut - I get asked that question a lot. My response is, whats a 57 Chevy worth ? I don't know, is it a coupe, or a convertible, is it rusted out......you get the picture.
    Trees are the same, but its called grade, not condition.
    All trees have different grade logs from the butt all the way up to the top and they all have different dollar values.
    Shooting from the hip - I'd say your black walnut tree could be worth that on the stump, but that would be one hell of a tree !
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  • allen griggs
    Around here, black walnut sells for $3.50/ board foot, in roughsawn 1xs, from the sawmill.
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  • nyforester
    The best price I have found right now for black walnut delivered to the mill - International 1/4" log rule

    8"-9" 1 clear face - $400/MBF
    10" 2 clear face - $1,000/MBF
    12" 3 clear, 11" 4 clear, 15" 2 clear - $1,400/MBF
    13" 3 clear, 12" 4 clear - $1,700/MBF
    14" 3 clear,13" 4 clear - $2,000/MBF
    16" 3 clear, 15" 4 clear - $2,300/MBF

    $3.50 for sawed walnut sounds good to me !
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  • allen griggs
    So, is it possible, that a landowner could get $3,500 for a 100 year old black walnut tree?
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  • nyforester
    I suppose it is possible, however it would have to be a very large and tall tree with excellent health and no defects at all.

    Last winter I cut a nice large black cherry tree on one of my jobs. I sold the butt log alone for $1,320. It had 220 board feet and I got $6,000/MBF


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    Here is one of my log yards from last winter. There is just a few white pine logs there[:D]
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  • Horney toad
    Many trees would be more valuable left standing. A beautiful landmark that won't grow back in your lifetime.
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  • susie
    I have nine huge pine trees that I want to get rid of and can't give them away. Around here you have to pay someone to remove them!! Trees have a radius of 2.5 to 3 feet each and stand well over 40 feet tall. We have a 1.07 acre lot and are tired of raking needles and cones constantly. Anyone in the Arkansas area want some trees?
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  • nyforester
    quote:Originally posted by Horney toad
    Many trees would be more valuable left standing. A beautiful landmark that won't grow back in your lifetime.


    Go back and live in your cave toad man .
    With a mentality like yours, you need to stop using all wood products Immediately !
    You can't live in a stick built house, many of your cloths and medicine are derived from wood products.
    You are no doubt uneducated and know nothing of natural resources and renewable resources.
    Oh yea, stop using toilet paper and start wiping your azz with plastic !
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  • Horney toad
    quote:Originally posted by nyforester
    quote:Originally posted by Horney toad
    Many trees would be more valuable left standing. A beautiful landmark that won't grow back in your lifetime.


    Go back and live in your cave toad man .
    With a mentality like yours, you need to stop using all wood products Immediately !
    You can't live in a stick built house, many of your cloths and medicine are derived from wood products.
    You are no doubt uneducated and know nothing of natural resources and renewable resources.
    Oh yea, stop using toilet paper and start wiping your azz with plastic !


    I think we are talking about one tree here, idiot. I'm sorry that you have been brainwashed to think that conserving anything is bad.
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  • nyforester
    You probably think that private gun ownership should be taken away also. I know your type !
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  • Horney toad
    You have no idea what I think you rude SOB.
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  • zr700
    BURN IT!! That stuff makes awsome firewood, just split a giant pile for next winter some of it was 24 inches across!
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  • select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by susie
    I have nine huge pine trees that I want to get rid of and can't give them away. Around here you have to pay someone to remove them!! Trees have a radius of 2.5 to 3 feet each and stand well over 40 feet tall. We have a 1.07 acre lot and are tired of raking needles and cones constantly. Anyone in the Arkansas area want some trees?



    Call one of the local treecutters and tell them they can have them for pulpwood.
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  • Jimet
    I was goin to post a reply critical of loggers and their integrity(or lack of),but I think it's no longer nesassary.
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  • nyforester
    Are you implying that all loggers and thiefs ?
    Doctors and lawyers are much worse.
    You can have a logging job overseen by a certified forester and
    he can keep tabs on the integrity(or lack of) of the logger.
    Just because you heard one bad thing about a logger does not mean they are all criminals.
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  • Jimet
    OK,I agree.However,I think with a little more effort,you guys could overtake doctors and lawyers.Good luck.
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  • Horney toad
    "Just because you heard one bad thing about a logger does not mean they are all criminals."


    Seems like they are all pretty mouthy though.
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  • nyforester
    I am not a logger...I am a Forester.
    Just stick'in to my guns.............
    I buy the standing timber, then contract with local loggers to cut and process the trees.
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