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  • 1911a1-fan
    I'll take a stab that the barrel, action, and but plate is the only thing original, the stock is missing the ram rod and a place to put it, it should also be more raised around the action but is over-sized, the rings are new, and the sling is not appropriate, the hammer should have a notch in it
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  • Ray Boone
    And I thought the value of my pre-1800 flintlock converted to percussion for Civil War use had lost collector value- but compared to the musket being offered, mine is highly collectable- if I could take a photo for the computer I'd show y'all.
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  • Jacob2008
    IS THAT A SCRATCH?!
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  • Cubslover
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    I'll take a stab that the barrel, action, and but plate is the only thing original, the stock is missing the ram rod and a place to put it, it should also be more raised around the action but is over-sized, the rings are new, and the sling is not appropriate, the hammer should have a notch in it


    Hence the description

    ANTIQUE NO FFL LIC REQUIRED == 1861 U.S. SPRINGFIELD MUSKET CONVERTED TO PERCUSSION , LOCK DATED 1863, CALIBER .69, 40" BARREL , OVERALL LENGHT 56"s, MISSING THE RAMROD , REPRO SLING, SOLID WOOD- MADE FROM TWO STOCKS. UNDER THE REAR BARREL BAND THE NEW PIECE OF WOOD STARTS AND RUNS TO THE MUZZLE. , STOCK LOOKS TO BE LATER THAN THE RIFLE, THIS GUN IS TO LONG FOR A HARD CASE . TO BE SHIPPPED IN A BOX WITH BUBBLE WRAP 25.00 S&I.
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  • zipperzap
    .69 Cal.? LOL[:o)][:o)][:o)]
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  • dcinffxva
    It really looks like this was totally put together with parts from different models. The lockplate and barrel bands are 1863 variety (note the lack of retaining springs). The hammer and bolster are both model 1861 type. If it really is .69 cal, then the barrel came off of a model 1842 or older. At least he didn't advertise it as an ultra-rare transitional model [:)]

    The guy has a lot of stuff for sale, most of it looks decent, he has good feedback, and all his auctions start at $.01 with no reserve.
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  • firstharmonic
    And the barrel bands are'nt held in place with band springs but are clamped on, Enfield-style. Someone spent some time on this one, getting that mishmash of parts together as a complete gun.
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  • dcinffxva
    quote:Originally posted by firstharmonic
    And the barrel bands are'nt held in place with band springs but are clamped on, Enfield-style. Someone spent some time on this one, getting that mishmash of parts together as a complete gun.


    In 1863 they used the split type band. It was the only year they did it. 1864 went back to the retaining spring.
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  • 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by cubslover
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    I'll take a stab that the barrel, action, and but plate is the only thing original, the stock is missing the ram rod and a place to put it, it should also be more raised around the action but is over-sized, the rings are new, and the sling is not appropriate, the hammer should have a notch in it


    Hence the description

    ANTIQUE NO FFL LIC REQUIRED == 1861 U.S. SPRINGFIELD MUSKET CONVERTED TO PERCUSSION , LOCK DATED 1863, CALIBER .69, 40" BARREL , OVERALL LENGHT 56"s, MISSING THE RAMROD , REPRO SLING, SOLID WOOD- MADE FROM TWO STOCKS. UNDER THE REAR BARREL BAND THE NEW PIECE OF WOOD STARTS AND RUNS TO THE MUZZLE. , STOCK LOOKS TO BE LATER THAN THE RIFLE, THIS GUN IS TO LONG FOR A HARD CASE . TO BE SHIPPPED IN A BOX WITH BUBBLE WRAP 25.00 S&I.


    i wrote that before reading the discription sorry
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  • Cubslover
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:Originally posted by cubslover

    Hence the description


    i wrote that before reading the discription sorry


    Just giving you a hard time.[:)]
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  • Spider7115
    "Converted to percussion" - from WHAT? A matchlock? [:0] This guy obviously doesn't know the difference between flintlock and percussion.
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  • firstharmonic
    quote:Originally posted by dcinffxva
    quote:Originally posted by firstharmonic
    And the barrel bands are'nt held in place with band springs but are clamped on, Enfield-style. Someone spent some time on this one, getting that mishmash of parts together as a complete gun.


    In 1863 they used the split type band. It was the only year they did it. 1864 went back to the retaining spring.


    You're right. But this one is listed as an 1861.
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  • dcinffxva
    True [:)]

    I got sidetracked on the original listing by the only piece on it that looks like it's from an 1861 is the hammer !
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  • greeker375
    http://www.montywhitley.com/antique_arms_fine_sporting_guns/us_military/muskets/1313

    Try the above address for a real good looking piece
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  • dcinffxva
    quote:Originally posted by greeker375
    http://www.montywhitley.com/antique_arms_fine_sporting_guns/us_military/muskets/1313

    Try the above address for a real good looking piece




    Thanks for the link. Is this a dealer you know ? He's only about 1 1/2 hours away from me, and has a couple that I'd like to see in person.
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