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  • Rocklobster
    My family has lived in Georgia for over six generations, my great-great grandpa owned three plantations in Georgia which were stolen from him by the Northern aggressors. I have a relative buried in the Confederate Cemetery in Jonesboro, one of 3,149 men killed in the battle for that town in August of 1864.

    Need I go on? [:D][;)]
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  • Spider7115
    The way things are going with illegal immigration, I'm starting to believe that the south WILL rise again.
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  • trooper86
    The American Indians found out if you do not have a firm control on immigration then you lose your country to them.
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  • Colt Super
    I was born in Emory University Hospital in Atlanta.

    I've always had a rebellious nature, but I wouldn't call myself a "fan" of the Confederacy. I think that word trivializes the deaths of thousands of young American men.

    I am an advocate of States Rights, according to the Constitution.

    Doug
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  • TrinityScrimshaw
    I am big Civil War buff, and since I was born & raised in Texas I kind of lean that way.

    A few years back I was doing research into my family's genealogy in order to join the Son's of Confederate Veterans. I went as far back as my great, great, great, great, grandfather on my father's side. This particular relative had received a land grant from the Republic of Texas for having fought for Texas independence from Mexico in 1836. According to the Texas State censuses of 1863 he had 14 children. My direct connection through my father was not a veteran of the war, however three of his brothers were. One brother was assigned to the 4th Texas infantry, and any record of him can not be found after July 2nd 1863 (I wonder why?). Another brother joined the 13th Texas Calvary under John Bell Hood, and later went on to be a Baptist Preacher who also had a very large family of his own. The third was a confederate deserter, and he was captured by confederate Calvary and was hung along with several other deserters near Bastrop Texas in 1864. There is a historical marker near where this hanging occurred with his name on it. A sister of these three brothers was the mother of William Randolph Hearst. The land grant their father received from the Republic of Texas was later sold to the US Government, and is now a part of the US Army base at Fort Hood Texas.

    Trinity +++
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  • spryor
    quote:Originally posted by trooper86
    The American Indians found out if you do not have a firm control on immigration then you lose your country to them.
    Amen!!

    Editd to add: my youngest son has extensively studied that war (among others) and is somewhat a buff.

    You'd be surprised how many custom knives we sell with the confederate flag carved on them..many overseas.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    I can respect The South, but I wouldn't say I was a fan. That whole fighting for slavery thing was kind of lame...

    (And before you hop up and down and say it wasn't about slavery, take a look at how many states within the Confederacy were explicit about blacks being inferior to whites)
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  • bill2740
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    I can respect The South, but I wouldn't say I was a fan. That whole fighting for slavery thing was kind of lame...

    (And before you hop up and down and say it wasn't about slavery, take a look at how many states within the Confederacy were explicit about blacks being inferior to whites)


    The war was about state rights.
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  • Colt Super
    Earl, It was, THEN.

    Was that a not-so-subtle inquiry as to my race??

    There were no Arby's then.

    I know that you are a VERY senior member, but I didn't think you were old enough to recall ""the good old days"...no rap music,no Jesse Jackson,no crime,magnolias,...I must stop or I will cry all night!"

    Doug
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  • TrinityScrimshaw
    Anyone who takes the party line belief that the war was fought over slavery alone is just validating that they are a product of their US Government public school up bringing. Remember; to the winner goes the spoils of war, and the winner also gets to write the history from their point of view. Yes, slavery was an issue, but it was not the only, nor was it the main issue at the start of the war. It wasn't until Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation that most Northern Troops felt there was a valid reason to fight against their Southern Brethren. Even though the proclamation didn't free any slaves in states that Lincoln had any control over it did instill in the Northern soldier that they were now fighting for someone's freedom. This fact alone gave them the moral & ethical high road. However, any Southern worth his salt can recall stories (which were taught to them by their elder relatives) of the atrocities that the North caused upon the South after the war was over. That is why you still see a lot of bumper stickers down South that say "Forget Hell".

    Trinity +++
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  • Odawgp
    I love the flag and the gerenal lee from the duke of hazard

    someone said the "south will rise again" better be quick about it.

    or we will all be living in the good old United States of Mexico[xx(]
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  • TrinityScrimshaw
    OK, eboy. Now crawl back in the hole you crawled out of[;)]

    Trinity +++
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  • zipperzap
    I am the 11th generation Pennsylvanian. The first of my ancestors, Samual Tomlinson (the late) Keeper of The King's Horse for Charles I (and had somehow drawn the ire of Charlie) - then decided it was prudent to move to America with his wife and their ten children. They stepped off the boat, in the summer of 1652 - 29 years before Willy Penn received his Charter from Charlie, for his 'colony in the woods' - near where the current berg of Philadelphia stands today.

    Shortly after the first shot was fired in SC, the Union Army included seven family soldiers/sailors that I can name - two U.S. Navy and five U.S. Army - many, many more family men were involved (to my knowledge) and all wore Northern Blue. The last of the seven - on my maternal side - were laid to rest in 1913 (my great great grandfather - Lieutenant Allen Seeley Tomlinson, Sr., Second Pennsylvania, 112th Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers (1861-1866), and to my knowledge, that's where/when the war ended for our family. More from our paternal side fought and were buried prior to 1913 - all Union men, to a man.

    Although, I did not have the opportunity to join them in that conflagration, I am, however, devoted (and a very amateur) War Of The Rebellion historian - a fascinating (and yet brutal) war, indeed. I am, also, the current family conservator of many of the relics and papers handed down from that time and we are proud of them all.
    [8D]
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  • tomahawk
    yes sir , my family ancestors all fought for the confederacy, but i have to say ther were very brave men on both sides
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  • A J Christ
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    I can respect The South, but I wouldn't say I was a fan. That whole fighting for slavery thing was kind of lame...

    (And before you hop up and down and say it wasn't about slavery, take a look at how many states within the Confederacy were explicit about blacks being inferior to whites)


    Now that all happened a little before my time but believe the slavery issue came up about half way through the hostilities.

    It started out as a disagreement about states rights. Federal govmint telling the states what they could or couldn't do, something about taxes too.

    How did the Northerners regard the American Indians?
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  • tobefree
    Naw, I'm a Yankee!!! Ever since all you came down on me for the Confederate Batttle Flag in my post!!
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