House votes on an immigration issue (C&P)
At least some of our elected officials are listening to us.
House erupts in chaos
In a massive flare-up of partisan tensions, Republicans walked out on a House vote late Thursday night to protest what they believed to be Democratic maneuvers to reverse an unfavorable outcome for them.
The flap represents a complete breakdown in parliamentary procedure and an unprecedented low for the sometimes bitterly divided chamber.
The rancor erupted shortly before 11 p.m. as Rep. Michael R. McNulty (D-N.Y.) gaveled close the vote on a standard procedural measure with the outcome still in doubt.
Details remain fuzzy, but numerous Republicans argued afterward that they had secured a 215-213 win on their motion to bar undocumented immigrants from receiving any federal funds apportioned in the agricultural spending bill for employment or rental assistance. Democrats, however, argued the measure was deadlocked at 214-214 and failed, members and aides on both sides of the aisle said afterward.
One GOP aide saw McNulty gavel the vote to a close after receiving a signal from his leaders - but before reading the official tally. And votes continued to shift even after he closed the roll call - a strange development in itself.
Whatever the final tally, acrimony quickly exploded between lawmakers on either side of the aisle as Democratic leaders tried to plot a solution, while parliamentarians on either side argued over protocol.
Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) eventually offered a motion to reconsider, according to floor staff on either side, ostensibly giving members a chance to recast their votes. But the maneuver sparked a chorus of angry protests from the Republicans, yelling "shame" on Democrats, while they returned fire with angry volleys of their own.
When Democrats finally moved to consider the spending bill as the last vote of the night, furious Republicans left the chamber en masse to protest the maneuver. The House eventually recessed at 11:18 p.m. But Republicans quickly discovered that there was no longer any record of the controversial vote and immediately charged Democrats with erasing the bad result.
"Obviously, the Democrats don't want to stand up against illegal immigration - so much so that they're willing to cheat in order to win a vote," Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) said in an e-mail. "They're desperate - and it shows."
The official House website did not show a record of the vote as of 1 a.m. Friday.
House erupts in chaos
In a massive flare-up of partisan tensions, Republicans walked out on a House vote late Thursday night to protest what they believed to be Democratic maneuvers to reverse an unfavorable outcome for them.
The flap represents a complete breakdown in parliamentary procedure and an unprecedented low for the sometimes bitterly divided chamber.
The rancor erupted shortly before 11 p.m. as Rep. Michael R. McNulty (D-N.Y.) gaveled close the vote on a standard procedural measure with the outcome still in doubt.
Details remain fuzzy, but numerous Republicans argued afterward that they had secured a 215-213 win on their motion to bar undocumented immigrants from receiving any federal funds apportioned in the agricultural spending bill for employment or rental assistance. Democrats, however, argued the measure was deadlocked at 214-214 and failed, members and aides on both sides of the aisle said afterward.
One GOP aide saw McNulty gavel the vote to a close after receiving a signal from his leaders - but before reading the official tally. And votes continued to shift even after he closed the roll call - a strange development in itself.
Whatever the final tally, acrimony quickly exploded between lawmakers on either side of the aisle as Democratic leaders tried to plot a solution, while parliamentarians on either side argued over protocol.
Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) eventually offered a motion to reconsider, according to floor staff on either side, ostensibly giving members a chance to recast their votes. But the maneuver sparked a chorus of angry protests from the Republicans, yelling "shame" on Democrats, while they returned fire with angry volleys of their own.
When Democrats finally moved to consider the spending bill as the last vote of the night, furious Republicans left the chamber en masse to protest the maneuver. The House eventually recessed at 11:18 p.m. But Republicans quickly discovered that there was no longer any record of the controversial vote and immediately charged Democrats with erasing the bad result.
"Obviously, the Democrats don't want to stand up against illegal immigration - so much so that they're willing to cheat in order to win a vote," Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) said in an e-mail. "They're desperate - and it shows."
The official House website did not show a record of the vote as of 1 a.m. Friday.
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Without the internet, would we have ever heard about this?
I don't think so.
It's getting harder and harder for them to hide what they have been doing FOR YEARS.0 -
That's funny! The only thing funnier is that the electorate doesn't
care - not about that - not about anything ... beyond popular
TV shows.
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They'll do as they please..regardless.[V] 0 -
It'll be interesting to see how the actual vote count comes out, after the debate on who actually won the vote. 0 -
I just wrote (e-mailed) my congresswoman, a Democrat, and asked her to reply by e-mail and tell me she had nothing to do with it. How many others did? Probably did no good, but if we don't hold these maggots' feet to the fire there's no limits they won't exceed or rules they won't break. This bill gave them Food Stamps, welfare, housing assistance and Medicaid. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by zipperzap
That's funny! The only thing funnier is that the electorate doesn't
care - not about that - not about anything ... beyond popular
TV shows.
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Not sure that is 100% correct. Don't get me wrong, for the most part I think you are spot on, and agree with you, as I do on many topics.
APATHY RUNS RAMPANT.
But......
Concerning "this" particular topic, years ago, legislation helping ILLEGAL immigrants, would pass through into law, with little or no resistance. (I would reference past amnesty bills) Today however, the problem is SO large, and is affecting SO MANY of the sheeple in one way or another, that they are waking up, and TRYING to do something about it. (I would reference the latest "try" at an amnesty bill) There was such an outcry "this time" with letters, phone calls, emails, etc. that the vote has been divided. "Some" of our representatives realized that their very jobs depended on the outcome of their vote "this time" and voted accordingly.
Even with the president throwing a fit, yelling and flailing his arms wildly around his head, accusing representatives of being UNpatriotic, saying we NEED this latest amnesty bill (oh wait, he said it wasn't an amnesty bill) MANY listened to their constituents and voted the right way. I don't believe this would have happened if the populous hadn't had access to BOTH sides of the story. (many by way of the internet) I hope that, come election day, the people remember their "threat" when it comes to the representatives that voted the wrong way for OUR country, but I doubt it. APATHY will have set firmly back in, by then. [V]
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Time for some changes concerning our elected officials.
1. Term limits. 3 terms in the House, 2 in the Senate.
2. Same retirement as the rest of us. Social Security and a 401 plan.
3. Pay for their own medical care, Walter Reed is a military hospital, enough said.
4. No gifts, tips bribes or payments of any kind from any lobbyist. Ban any and all lobbying.
5. Travel done by a voucher system. No first class air flights paid for by tax payers, no military flights, no aircraft supplied by the government such as what our speaker is using right now.
6. Mandatory retirement at age 65
7. Drug and alcohol testing, same as our military.
8. Any campaign funds not used get turned in to the treasury.
9. Any one voting for military action and has sons, daughters, wives or husbands of military age, they go to war as a common soldier.
10. Staff from a previoul elected official will not be allowed to serve on the staff of a newly elected representative or senator.
11. An elected official must have lived in the area he or she represents for at least 10 years prior to the election and must return to live there after leaving office. Unless they end up in jail.
12. Misbehaviour of an elected official should result in a sentence double what it would be for the rest of the population.
13. Lawyers cannot be elected to the house or senate.
Give the president line item veto power.
Could probably add a few more but that's a good start.0 -
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What a bunch of maroons!
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This will frost you.
(July 30) Last Friday, by a 371-40 vote, the House cleared for the president's signature the conference report (H. Rept. 110-259) for the bill implementing unfulfilled recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. That conference report includes a provision authorizing DHS to expand the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), which enabled convicted 9/11 co-conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui to enter the U.S. using just his French passport and would have allowed shoe bomber Richard Reid to enter using just his British passport.0
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