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Lowest 'land baron' posting procedure ever..

rcrxmike_2
Went out spotting again tonite, just to nail down what we were gonna do tomorrow. It's Blane's first hunt, and after overcoming a last minute trip to Dave's Gun Shop of Eldred, PA (Dave is fantastic, and dropped what he was doing as the light was waning for nailing it in, thus saving the boy's hunt) for the replacement of a defective scope, and Pa Booger's donation of a few loads for the single shot Rossi, as it took 17 to get it 'on', we scarfed down a rockin dinner that the ol' lady whipped up, (big ol ham, and her first crack at ham gravy, mmmm), and headed out in the Ranger to do our 'loop'.

Now, I have no problem with folks posting their land, especially as Moody Hollow is 'flatlander central', what really, really REALLY pi$$ed me off was the fact that they waited til 4 pm on the DAY before hunting season to do it.

I have started my hunting season for, oh, the last 7 years in this particular spot. there was an old abandoned blind there that at one time was nice. Last year, I took the boy there, and overtaken by boredom, we cleaned the porky chit out of it, cleaned up the 25 years of pop cans up and made it pretty nice...only to have some 'mine mine mine' land grabber post the only access to it.

I am one of those people who, as they are walking through the woods, picks up every little piece of 'non' natural debris I come across and packs it out with me.

So mr budweiser 'real men of genius' land baron.....my holiday wish for you is scrotal cancer......
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  • thunderbolt
    Let me tell you, it is no fun to walk out into your own yard and be confronted by 3 or 4 armed strangers who think they have a "right" to hunt on your property.
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  • pabooger
    quote:a year and I still cannot afford to buy good land for hunting so next spring I am going to board this house up or sell it to a large family of Mexicans ands I am moving west where the state population is lower than the population of the city of Philly!

    Angry and frustrated in PA

    Now how many times have we heard that!!![:D]
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  • pabooger
    Mike, most of these responses are from people who live in states such as Texas, where it's darn near impossible to hunt on public land, everything is done on a hunting ranch or lease!!

    Pa. has millions of acres of free public land for people to hunt. Hundreds of thousands of acreas owned by the big timber companies who encourage you to hunt on their property!

    Im just thankful we still live in a State that recognizes the importance of public land that can be shared by everybody,, instead of just the wealthy land barons!!!

    As far as Sax goes, he's never hunted a day in his life!!!
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  • guntech59
    I hunt two farms that I ask permission to hunt every year. I ask alot of owners for permission to hunt their land and have been told "NO" more times than "YES". I respect that. To people that complain about others posting their land, I ask them what they would do if it was their land.

    In NY it is trespassing even if it is not posted unless you have permission. There are no liability issues with giving permission for people to hunt your land unless you charge them to hunt, then it becomes a business and you must have liability insurance, etc...

    I always ask for permission WELL before the season ends and try to talk to the others that hunt that land so we don't trip over each other (or shoot each other) while we're hunting.

    Just seems like commons sense and decency to me.
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  • iluvguns
    quote:Im just thankful we still live in a State that recognizes the importance of public land that can be shared by everybody

    If that's the case, then what's the problem? Can't Mike find public land to hunt on? Hunting on private property without permission is just plain wrong.
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  • rcrxmike_2
    People read the ENTIRE Post...

    It's not the fact that it WAS POSTED, IT"S THE FACT THAT A)ONLY PART OF WHAT IS POSTED UNDER HIS NAME IS OWNED BY THE POSTER. (THE LAND THAT HE PUT HIS BUDDIES CAMPER ON ISN'T HIS, IT'S COLLIN'S PINE..(oPEN TO PUBLIC HUNTING BUT NOW INACCESSIBLE)
    B)INSTEAD OF POSTING IT WHEN SOMEONE COULD ASK, HE WAITED UNTIL NEAR DARK THE NIGHT BEFORE OPENING. (WE HUNTED THE ADJOINING PROPERY FOR A BIT TODAY...LONG ENOUGH TO SEE SOMEONE DROP A DOE FROM HIS BACK PORCH....(YOUR HOUSE OR NOT, YOU GOTTA BE 150 FEET FROM AN OCCUPIED DWELLING, PLUS THE CAMPER IS AN OCCUPIED DWELLING IN ITSELF)

    THUNDERBOLT...This isn't a 'yard' it's a former agricultural field that is unused now, bordered by an oil lease and a timber company.

    AJ....would have gladly asked permission, had the posting not been done basically under cover of darkness

    agman...no I wouldn't have been pissed....and I damned sure wouldn't have gotten snotty. want an illustration? Few years ago i was hunting with permission on some land. heard a shot. deer ran up to me and stopped. dispatched him, and dressed it (little wound low on the deer) 2nd... Kid, maybe 17-18, came up and said..."oh you got him. I took a running shot". told the kid that I'd flip him for it. he won the toss but didn't know it. I said 'you win'. couple of hours later the caretaker of the land drove up to me and said " how ya makin out?" Told him the story. he said 'that was you? that was my kid you flipped for the deer...you really do that? Told him yeah, and he said 'bud, you hunt here any time you want. park over by my garage".

    D heff... I didn't tresspass. actually the part of the field that he's got his posted sign that I use to get to 'our spot' on the timber company's land belongs to the church...I have permission, but why have a hassel with him?


    Select..read above...

    Saxon...read above.....

    ladams....that was the deal before 4pm Sunday.....

    1911....I got some chivalry for ya. read above....do you really wanna do this with me?


    Wolf. don't know ya. no one was socializing this guys land. He basically cut off access to 'free land' by adding a couple of signs beyond his property line. (let me draw you a mental pic...SOME of the land between him and the 'FREE' land is his. he has no signs on the side entry to the propery, as it's not his.) So he'll be bleeding and dying for Bob's property, (who is not happy with this guy's initiative).


    Scorvers....Read above. get the picture, Rich?

    for the REALLY SLOW......


    can hunt here and above permission and open to hunting

    someone else owns this, but this guy dropeed posted sign on another guy's property

    open field here________________________V

    Mr 'real man of genius'land
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    road here_____________/___________________________/___________

    bottom line...land is posted that doesn't belong to the poster, thus sealing public away from open hunting lands, (if they don't do their homework)

    thanks for the opinions. I don't trespass. and oh how i wished a couple of you lived closer.....
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  • bhale187
    yeah, it really pisses me off when someone tells me I can't use their property, commie bastages!!
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  • swamp_thing
    Mike, not to be difficult here, but I did go back and re-read your posts. Neither of them said that the land you were crossing belonged to the Church, nor that it was not his land to post. You did say that the parking lot you use is the Church lot. Thus, the assumption was that you parked in the Church lot then crossed over his land to get to the spot you hunted. I am sure you knew it was Church land or someone elses, but given the information we all had to base this on, you did lead one to believe that it was in fact his land.
    If it isn't his to post, then he can go pack sand. I have no personal beef with you or anyone else. My statements stand that I don't see the reasoning in anyone hunting land or crossing land without prior permission. From you last post it appears that you already had that. If in fact that is so, then you have no problems really. One cannot post what is not his to post legally, right? Dave
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  • rcrxmike_2
    crap, must have screwed that paragraph up in first post. no matter. I'm one of those poeple who basically just doesn't care who goes where on my stuff, as long as they aren't tearin it up....

    as the first post DID say, it wasn't that he posted it, it was how it was done . for years, the land separating the road from collis company was one of those deals where the folks there just didn't really care. this deal is just to keep an entire, 'free' hillside hard to get to, thus saving deer for one guy...
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  • swamp_thing
    I agree that the timing on his part was terrible and probably intentional as well. Hopefully this will all work out for you and the boy for future hunts. Also, if the camper is on collins pine you may have some recourse there to make life a bit uncomfortable for him. Dave
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  • gearheaddad
    My family owns 250 acres of awsome hunting land in northern Illinois. I hunt it with a couple of good long time friends. If we catch trespassers anytime of the year we call the sheriff or if they're hunting, we call the game warden. In Illinois if you're hunting private property without permission, your hunting license is void. We don't allow ANY trespassers. We don't grant permission to anyone but my friends and family to use the land. Hunting land is quite scarce in Northern Illinois. I used to find a treestand every so often on the property. chained and locked even! A pair of bolt cutters and presto, I have a new stand! I saw some guys on the edge of our property a number of years ago and hopped on the atv to go confront them. They took off but left behind a nice blanket, binoculars, a box of slugs, and a thermos with hot coffee!! Thank you very much!
    Everyone seems to complain that they have no where to hunt. Before we had the farm, I never had a problem. I asked permission of farmers in June and July. I would dress nicer and show up in the afternoon. After hunting, if we were sucessful I'd always offer the farmer some of what we got. If he accepted it, I'd clean it for him. I'd bring him a small X-mas present like a sausage and cheese tray. I'd stop mid summer just to visit. After we bought our farm, he'd call and ask if I'd like to come hunting or if I had the time, how about a quick visit? I never made as much time as I should have. But, I was young then.

    I think you're 1/2 way there. Go talk to the land owner with your boy months before the season. Ask him if there is anything you guys can do to help out a weekend or two. You know, put up hay or fix some fences, shovel out a barn, paint a shed, etc. Chances are, not only will you get permission. He might not let anyone else hunt the property! And your boy will learn a little more and you may make a new friend.
    Good luck and congratulations to you for taking a youngster hunting.
    Sorry to hi-jack your thread!
    Ed
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