Dispute between neighbors
A city councilman in Utah, Mark Easton, had a beautiful view of the east mountains, until a new neighbor purchased the lot below his house and built a new home.
The new home was 18 inches higher than the ordinances would allow, so Mark Easton , mad about his lost view, went to the city to make sure they enforced the lower roof line ordinance. The new neighbor had to drop the roof line, at great expense.
Recently, Mark Easton called the city, and informed them that his new neighbor had installed some vents on the side of his home. Mark didn't like the look of these vents and asked the city to investigate. When they went to Mark's home to see the vent view, this is what they found...
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* It just goes to prove that you can't expect things to remain the same and change is pretty much inevitable (especially when it comes to a view). The only way to ensure a view is to purchase everything between you and whatever you are viewing. [:D]
The new home was 18 inches higher than the ordinances would allow, so Mark Easton , mad about his lost view, went to the city to make sure they enforced the lower roof line ordinance. The new neighbor had to drop the roof line, at great expense.
Recently, Mark Easton called the city, and informed them that his new neighbor had installed some vents on the side of his home. Mark didn't like the look of these vents and asked the city to investigate. When they went to Mark's home to see the vent view, this is what they found...
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* It just goes to prove that you can't expect things to remain the same and change is pretty much inevitable (especially when it comes to a view). The only way to ensure a view is to purchase everything between you and whatever you are viewing. [:D]
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then easton should have bought closer to the mountains instead of expecting that eeeeeeeverything that way was reserved for his benefit....to force the expensive remodel of that house was CS in my book & the vents are exactly appropriate....bet they were no laws on the book describing what a vent can or cannot like...got what he deserved............ 0 -
[:D][:D]A finger to those who oppose personal property rights and promote more predatory government.[}:)] 0 -
There are some very low down selfish people in this world. Dr's seem to be numerous in this area. 0 -
If the new residents violated the CC&Rs for the subdivision then THEY got what they deserved, regardless of the cost to bring the home back into compliance.
They decided to screw the neighbors and ended up getting screwed themselves.
The vents are still probably perfectly legal ,,,,,,,,, and kinda funny too.0 -
Gotta hand it to em for thinking to do that.[:)][:D][8D] 0 -
I have a neighbor who used his telephoto lens to photo my property and complain about some rubbish piled on my property after
a garage clean out. He actually sent me the photo and complained how it was disturbing his view.We are separated by several acres , rural and without cc&r's.He doesn't play well with others, but now he has a new cribmate.0 -
I love the vents. I hope he enjoys the view now. He got what he deserved[}:)]
I like the cribmate as well[8D]0 -
Oh NO! NIMBY. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spryor
Gotta hand it to em for thinking to do that.[:)][:D][8D]
good pun0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
A city councilman in Utah, Mark Easton, had a beautiful view of the east mountains, until a new neighbor purchased the lot below his house and built a new home.
I can see why old Mark liked his view. If had been me I would have purchased that lower lot when I purchased my property, ensured my view for as long as I intended to stay in the home and been done with matter. my home city of Newport Beach is famous for height ordinances as well as encroachment issues so this sort of thing comes as no big surprise to be. What is a surprise is that the height ordinance was not pointed out agressively by the engineers who looked over the neighbor's house design and that the city inspector signed off on a structure standing 1-1/2 feet higher than allowed...Can you say PAY OFF?0 -
quote:stanman Posted - 10/19/2007 : 1:07:29 PM
If the new residents violated the CC&Rs for the subdivision then THEY got what they deserved, regardless of the cost to bring the home back into compliance
You are correct, but what if it was a young newly married couple who is trying to live the "American Dream". Would you say well they should not be punished because the Contractor should have known the specs. And even the building inspector passed the home, so does he face any of the liability? Of course the couple had a good attitude about the matter. LOL0 -
Actually the only expense the person building received was inconvenience, the contractor is responsible for the mess up with the roof line not the person living in the house. But i agree, the guy got what they deserved for complaining. but is this story really true, any link to a website with this that's reliable?
edit: just snoped it, its true. Also the guy that reported the roof had them delayed before the guy with vents could begin building. The sob deserves the vents in this case. he just didn't want someone to build on the property.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/risque/ventcover.asp0 -
Just too many slip ups: The Architect is supposed to know the codes and ordinances of the location before he even designs the structure, the engineer who looked over the design to see if the shack will actually stand up (that is what engineers do [8D]) would have known and raised a red flag (that is what engineers do [:D]). The contractor who built the place would have taken one look at the plans and told the owner "You can't build this high in these parts Hoss" before he pounded in the first nail and the city inspector, who would (should) have visited the site as construction progressed, would have told the owner about the height ordinance the second the first beam went one inch too high. 0 -
Is there really anything wrong with expecting your neighbors to obey zoning laws, the breaking of which ruins the view for which you chose the property to build on? A neighbor should be considerate of the people who already live in the area, but this one thougt he was "special" and didn't have to obey the restrictions on height. Then, when he was forced to comply with the law, he acted vindictive and childish and actually drew dirty pictures, so to speak, on his own wall to spite the neighbor who was in the right.
Hearing those of you who took up the part of the law-breaking, spoiled brat is dismaying, to say the least.[?]0 -
Don't "City Councilmen" OWN the town?? 0 -
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Hearing those of you who took up the part of the law-breaking, spoiled brat is dismaying, to say the least.[?]
Remember where you are at; this place is full of guys who consider low-flush toilets to be an attack of the American way of life.0 -
Wouldn't it have been easier to just add 18" of fill around the house. That would make the roof 18" shorter. Think about it. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by forkliftking
Wouldn't it have been easier to just add 18" of fill around the house. That would make the roof 18" shorter. Think about it.
That's what a real estate company did in Virginia Beach. They built an apartment building with one too many floors and the City called them on it. They filled in around the bottom floor and called it the first level of the basement. Passed inspection. [:D]0 -
This gets back to the truck stuck under the bridge; Why jack up the bridge 6 inches when you can let the air out of the truck's tires? For the puposes of height ordinances most (though by no means all) cities define a structrues height as a building's vertical measurement from the mean level of the finished lot grade in front of the building to the highest point in the roof line of a flat roof or of a roof having a slope in less than 15 degrees from the horizontal, and to a point midway between the peak and the eaves of the roof having a slope of 15 degrees or more. Once you start contruction this is not going to be a variable so adding earth around the foundation is not going to help your cause. I am just an idiot structural engineer while ECC is a real building contractor so he would know much more about compliance issues. 0 -
quote:Is there really anything wrong with expecting your neighbors to obey zoning laws, the breaking of which ruins the view for which you chose the property to build on? A neighbor should be considerate of the people who already live in the area, but this one thougt he was "special" and didn't have to obey the restrictions on height. Then, when he was forced to comply with the law, he acted vindictive and childish and actually drew dirty pictures, so to speak, on his own wall to spite the neighbor who was in the right.
Hearing those of you who took up the part of the law-breaking, spoiled brat is dismaying, to say the least.
What part of, it's the builders and inspectors responsibility do you not get?
quote: I am just an idiot structural engineer while ECC is a real building contractor so he would know much more about compliance issues
Noooo, you structural guys are usually ok. It's architects that are the real screw-ups.0
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