Gun Safe without Fire Protection
Some gun safes weigh over 1/2 a ton. This is mostly due to the fireproofing. Has anyone put a sprinkler system over top of their safe in order to combat a fire? would it work? sure would be alot easier to get a 500lb non-fireproof safe in the house. Not to mention half the price. Bolt it down and simply run a copper line to the wall or cieling above it. $20 for the commercial sprinkler head. Any thoughts?
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what good would it do if your house burns down, the sprinkler system would be useless. it would be useful if it was over the cause of the fire as that's what there intended for. 0 -
Sprinkler systems still work if there is a fire........water pressure. Unless you have an electric pump or the fire is right ON the water line.
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quote:Originally posted by Mercury
Sprinkler systems still work if there is a fire........water pressure. Unless you have an electric pump or the fire is right ON the water line.
Merc
missed my point of what i was trying to say, maybe its the way i said it. water pressure yes your right, but if his house burns down wheres the water pressure????? Also a sprinkler system is used to stop or to prevent a fire from spreading, not good if theres no other sprinkler system already in use in the house/building.0 -
I would say bad idea, if the fire dosen't get them the water will, a good firesafe is well worth the money 0 -
Keep your safe in the basement, or on a lower floor in a drywalled room or closet, away from a combustion source. I did fire repair for years, fires burn up, and they start at furnaces, boilers, dryers, etc, so if you don't want your safe above any of these.
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I think you can have a safe delivered or moved for $150/$225 depending on location. If you don't have the people to help or you don't want the twins to hit the floor. Its well worth the money. 0 -
Question:
I work for an office supply outfit and delvr Fire Safes for documents.
On the box it tells the ratings of how long they will protect the contents. Usually 30 minutes or so.
What are the ratings on fire proof gun safes?
If it's only 30 minutes and your house burns down, I'd think your guns would be damaged anyway.0 -
My thoughts exactly.They would still be toast. 0 -
If you think a gun safe is going to protest your guns from a severe house fire, your gravely mistaken. Ask any Insurance adjuster!!! 0 -
During my fire, the real damage was done to my half ton fire resistant Liberty safe and contents by the WATER. The water filled the bottom of the safe and screwed the interior real good. I had to remove and clean 20 guns THAT DAY or rust would have ruined them. Fire never got them.
Don't like the water idea.
Keep thinking though!0 -
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
During my fire, the real damage was done to my half ton fire resistant Liberty safe and contents by the WATER. The water filled the bottom of the safe and screwed the interior real good. I had to remove and clean 20 guns THAT DAY or rust would have ruined them. Fire never got them.
Don't like the water idea.
Keep thinking though!
Did the building burn to the ground? I remeber seeing pictures of it but dont remember how extensive the fire got. How did the water get in, around the door? Were you able to get the safe open right away?0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
During my fire, the real damage was done to my half ton fire resistant Liberty safe and contents by the WATER. The water filled the bottom of the safe and screwed the interior real good. I had to remove and clean 20 guns THAT DAY or rust would have ruined them. Fire never got them.
Don't like the water idea.
Keep thinking though!
Did the building burn to the ground? I remeber seeing pictures of it but dont remember how extensive the fire got. How did the water get in, around the door? Were you able to get the safe open right away?
The building did not burn to the ground. Fire never touched the safe. It was the 60,000 gallons of water from the fire department that did the damage.
The water got in through the bottom of the door and perhaps the hole in the floor for electric cords.
I was able to open the safe within two hours and remove all valuables. Unfortunately, the safe was the last thing removed from the building and it is no longer shiny and unscratched!
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HMMMMMMMM Very interesting!!! 0 -
good info for future reference here!
remember to silicone caulk all cord/bolt openings, some kind of water seal around door possibly?
see what else gets added before the thread dies...0 -
quote:Originally posted by oldemagics
good info for future reference here!
remember to silicone caulk all cord/bolt openings, some kind of water seal around door possibly?
see what else gets added before the thread dies...
It would have to be fire retardent silicone. Fire is the primary concern, water is the side effect. Unless of course you could guarantee no fire around the safe if the sprinkler works. Maybe 2 or more commercial sprinkler heads around the safe. [?]0 -
I like concrete and steel.
You can make them water, fire, and blast proof.
when you move you dont take it with you.
you sell it with the house and put in a new one, at your new house[:D]0 -
Sprinkler heads are cheap and water supply is usually very close. 0 -
HALON! 0
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