Think the chinese are out to get us
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it's time to launch a full scale nuclear attack on china. 0 -
First poisoned pet food and no deadly childrens toys. No matter how much worse this situation with China becomes we cannot drop our gaurd against the much greater threat from Muslims or back down from our stated Gun Broker goal of ridding the world of Islam. 0 -
They already have us. They're now the biggest steel producer in the world, they've taken most of our manufacturing jobs and remember to look at all of the toys around Christmas. ALL from China.
The Chinese and Russians will get together and then it's going to be a major problem for us since we can't make anything, won't have the steel and have a workforce of office workers untrained and unwilling to work in a manufacturing environment. They vastly outnumber us and are slowy building their military capabilities. Get the picture?0 -
Uh huh. Right on! We've got some serious problems - and it's going to get worse.
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Wow... so much concern for consumer safety! What happened to all of that talk about how government regulations just strangle Business and burden it with a whole bunch of unnecessary and costly diversions that wreak havok on the quarterly profits reports?
Welcome to Conservative Talking Point # 31,592...0 -
I read somwhere that china will have exhausted its own natural resources by the year 2018, and if you need enough natural resources to run a country as big as china, are you going to pay for them? I dont think so, theyll slowly invade someplace, little by little, increase military presence and then just start taking. 0 -
If we're going to declare war on China, we need to do a preemptive strike. Kill the soldiers. Take no prisoners. There's too many of them. There is talk of China going to war wit someone just to get rid of some of there extra male population. 0 -
Same way Japan paid/pays for them. Same goes with Germany, Britain,
and lots of other industrial countries, too.
The scary part is what Japan did when we pressured others to cut off one
of her most important resource needs. It's like cutting off someone's air
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Most Asian officials have expressed their views privately. Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara has gone public, warning that the United States would lose any war with China.
"In any case, if tension between the United States and China heightens, if each side pulls the trigger, though it may not be stretched to nuclear weapons, and the wider hostilities expand, I believe America cannot win as it has a civic society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives," Mr. Ishihara said in an address to the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Mr. Ishihara said U.S. ground forces, with the exception of the Marines, are "extremely incompetent" and would be unable to stem a Chinese conventional attack. Indeed, he asserted that China would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons against Asian and American cities-even at the risk of a massive U.S. retaliation.
The governor said the U.S. military could not counter a wave of millions of Chinese soldiers prepared to die in any onslaught against U.S. forces. After 2,000 casualties, he said, the U.S. military would be forced to withdraw.
"Therefore, we need to consider other means to counter China," he said. "The step we should be taking against China, I believe, is economic containment."
Officials acknowledge that Mr. Ishihara's views reflect the widespread skepticism of U.S. military capabilities in such countries as Australia, India, Japan, Singapore and South Korea. They said the U.S.-led war in Iraq has pointed to the American weakness in low-tech warfare.
"When we can't even control parts of Anbar, they get the message loud and clear," an official said, referring to the flashpoint province in western Iraq.
As a result, Asian allies of the United States are quietly preparing to bolster their militaries independent of Washington. So far, the Bush administration has been strongly opposed to an indigenous Japanese defense capability, fearing it would lead to the expulsion of the U.S. military presence from that country.
On Nov. 16, Mr. Bush met with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. The two leaders discussed the realignment of the U.S. military presence in Japan and Tokyo's troop deployment in Iraq.0 -
China is building it`s army with the profits it makes from selling us it`s cheap crap. 0 -
Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara is a fool. Nothing to add, nothing to comment on, he is a shortsighted braindead fool. 0 -
Think about this topic the next time you walk into Walmart! 0 -
A few minor details no one has thought about:
1) Chinese soldiers have yet to learn how to walk on water. It gets pretty damned hard to conquer someone with an army when something as large as the Pacific Ocean is between the two of you... especially if the other guy's navy is larger and better than yours.
2) There's oil and several strategic metals in Siberia. Why in the f*** would they try to get down and dirty with us when everything they need is literally a stone's throw away from them?
3) The PLA, while the largest military on Earth, is still outnumbered when all of its neighbors are combined - neighbors who, I might add, have no great love for China. I think China has better things to do than to get into a war with someone on the other side of the planet.
Any talk of China going to war with us is nothing more than a neocon wet dream.0 -
No. The Chinese are pragmatists and will do what they have to to be commercially successful. In that they are realizing true power.
They don't have to conquor anyone save maybe power and raw materials sources.
They will out produce their neighbors and put them all out of business
while commercially draining off their wealth.
Taiwan will come crawling so why shoot them? The rest will follow to survive.
China also has a limitless domestic market for every type of goods.
This is all predicated on continuing close control of their diverse population.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dennis Smith
quote:Originally posted by v35
...This is all predicated on continuing close control of their diverse population.
China has a diverse population? I figured they were strong because of their unity. We're the ones crippled by diversity b.s.
The Chinese have a diverse population in terms of rich/poor, rural/urban, geographically, culturally (regional differences, I mean), and some racial diversity. Of course, with 90+% of them classified as Han, they don't have too much of a race problem - at least not as bad as ours.
They are strong because right now China is on the upswing of their latest dynastic cycle. They may be strong and stronger for the next hundred to two hundred years before they implode. If the commies are smart, and this current batch of technocrats is not dumb, they'll keep the wheels on the wagon for another 250 years, tops.
Of course, with the world economy as intertwined as it is - a Chinese civil war after 300 years of a robust Chinese economy could very well screw the world. But at this point I'm just guessing.0 -
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Looks like China is serious about their reputation. They executed a Food and Drug inspector a couple of weeks ago.
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Dennis,
No kiddin'. But here we have come to call corruption "freedom of expression".[xx(]
Don't get me wrong, I like my rights - I just don't appreciate bad men making a mockery of them.0
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