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  • FrancF
    House Democrats are "one vote away" from repealing an appropriations amendment that restricts local law enforcement's ability to access federal gun trace data.

    Second Amendment supporters say the amendment protects police investigations and prevents anti-gun groups from using gun trace data in "frivolous" civil lawsuits against the firearms industry.

    But the opponents of the amendment argue that the restrictions tie investigators' hands. They say the gun-trace data is an essential crime-fighting tool that should be made available to police.

    Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) declared Tuesday that opponents of the Tiahrt Amendment are only one vote short of preventing the measure's inclusion in the 2008 appropriations for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Enforcement (ATF).

    He made the statement as a news conference sponsored New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), disbanded under threat of thunderstorms.

    Austin Durrer, a spokesman for Moran, told Cybercast News Service the congressman "was encouraging the crowd to get out and make their voices heard on Capitol Hill in lieu of Thursday's mark-up."

    "Every vote is crucial during the committee vote," he said.

    The House Appropriations Committee, on which Moran serves, is scheduled to review the appropriations bill Thursday morning. Bloomberg said Tuesday that the mark-up is a chance to see "what the new [Democrat-controlled] House of Representatives is really made of."

    The amendment, named after original sponsor Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), has been included in each ATF appropriations bill since 2003. It restricts local law enforcement's access to federal data that traces guns used in crimes back to the stores where they were purchased.

    Under the provision, local law enforcement agencies are allowed access to trace data for guns used in crimes, but the data can only be used in specific criminal investigations. It explicitly prevents cities from requesting gun trace data for the purpose of building a case against gun dealers.

    Opponents of the amendment, including Bloomberg, argue that the restrictions tie investigators' hands. At the news conference Tuesday, the New York City mayor called the amendment "the most anti-cop, soft-on-crime law Congress has passed in years."

    'Endangering investigators'

    While opponents say the amendment prevents law enforcement from tracing guns used in crimes to their source, the amendment itself states otherwise. It provides that trace data can be released "to an official of a Federal, State, tribal, local, or foreign law enforcement agency ... who certifies that the information is sought solely in connection with and for use in a bona fide criminal investigation or ... prosecution."

    It also states that the prohibitions on releasing trace data "shall [not] be construed to prevent the sharing or exchange of such information among and between ... law enforcement agencies ... provided that such information, regardless of its source, is shared, exchanged, or used solely in connection with bona fide criminal investigations."

    Supporters of the restrictions insist that making the gun trace data too widely available could alert criminals before a probe is completed, thus jeopardizing both the investigation and the investigators. They also argue that it helps to protect gun dealers from being sued by cities in cases where guns that they sold are used subsequently in crimes.

    Bloomberg said arguments from supporters of the amendment are "based on flimsy political rhetoric, not facts," and he restated his earlier characterization of the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) as a "fringe organization."

    The FOP, a 324,000-member police organization, has supported the Tiahrt Amendment since it was first enacted in 2003. In an April letter to the House Appropriations Committee, the group attributed its support to "our concern for the safety of law enforcement officers and the integrity of law enforcement investigations."

    The letter said disclosure of federal trace data "can inadvertently reveal the names of undercover officers or informants, endangering their safety. It may also tip off the target of an investigation."

    ATF officials, including Director Michael Sullivan, have also voiced support for the amendment.

    In a statement on April 30, Sullivan wrote that the ATF "routinely shares trace data with state and local law enforcement agencies."

    He said trace data is treated "no differently than fingerprint matches and other crime-scene information, since disclosure outside of law enforcement can tip off criminals to the investigation, compromise cases and endanger the lives of undercover officers, witnesses and confidential sources."
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  • FrancF
    Gun issue is momentary diversion for Illinois
    By Kevin McDermott
    POST-DISPATCH SPRINGFIELD BUREAU
    07/12/2007

    SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - Gov. Rod Blagojevich's call for a major new debate about gun control misfired Wednesday, with the Illinois House dedicating just minutes to the issue before resuming its focus on the state's budgetary impasse.

    Blagojevich called a special session of the Legislature to take up a bill that would outlaw high-capacity ammunition clips. Legislative critics in both parties - and on both sides of the gun control debate - have called it a diversionary tactic meant to draw attention away from his failure to win approval for a new state budget.

    The state constitution gives the governor the power to force lawmakers into special session to consider specific legislation, but once convened, the legislators can take whatever action they choose. What the Illinois House chose to do on the gun control bill was nothing.

    "This body is a place that we will actively debate and vote on those (gun control issues), but ladies and gentlemen of the House, today is not that day,'' Rep. Harry Osterman, D-Chicago, sponsor of the legislation, told his colleagues on the House floor.



    Osterman said the bill doesn't have the votes to pass in the House right now and that calling for a vote would only lead to defeat, making the measure harder to pass later.

    There were no comments or questions after Osterman's announcement that he wouldn't call the gun control bill for a vote. The special session lasted about eight minutes.

    Illinois is operating on a temporary one-month budget because the state's leaders - all Democrats - can't agree on a permanent budget for the fiscal year that started July 1. Blagojevich is holding out for new spending for health care.

    Blagojevich has kept the Legislature in Springfield every day for almost two weeks by calling special sessions on the state budget. His goal was apparently to pressure lawmakers into accepting his budget proposals, but he seems to have emboldened his legislative critics.

    Blagojevich claimed Wednesday that the impasse isn't a meltdown.

    "It's totally what I envisioned was going to happen in January, February and March," Blagojevich told The Associated Press.
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  • fastcarsgofast
    Makes my stomach turn.[xx(]
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  • sarge_3ad
    Anyone live in Mass? A can of dark colored spray paint can fix that.[;)]

    IDIOTS!!!
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  • SCorvers
    FIRE!!!FIRE!!!! eheheheheheh
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  • brier-49
    MA has some very strict gun laws,seems funny to me that they would have any gun violence at all.(sarcasm) What is not mentioned is that those KIDS killed were mostly gang members and drug dealers,under the age of 21, making them KIDS.
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  • moose56
    ...oh yes, a Kennedy State!

    Moose
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    BULL$#!T.

    If the NRA truly had them hostage, you can bet I'd be sending them money to get rid of them.

    "Give us fifty million dollars or you'll see them again."

    "Here! Take all I've got! Wait! Let me take out a loan! Here! Have it! Just please, don't let them go!"[:p][:D]
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