Cheney Wants To Attack Iran
Apparently there is a fight within the admin right now over attacking Iran. Cheney wants to use pinpoint air strikes against Iran nuclear facilities and also their traning camps inside Iran that are being used to make bombs, re-supply iraqi insurgents and train terrorists. Sources say Bush is against it and Condi is against it. Sources also say that Bush is extremely gun shy now and is afraid to escelate anything either in iraq or elsewhere in the world.
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quote:Originally posted by Da-Tank
I get the feeling MOST of you guys have never been to war. It's not like on T.V.
The most hurt are the children, the innocents, and then ourselfs.
Dieing is easy, living with your mistakes is easy if you aren't in the fighting. If we nuke em first before they get the bomb, they will waite a hundrend or more years to get even. Then it will be in a big way. The men at white sands who put this thing together all agreed give it to ALL countries make them equal, All things will equal out in time.
Listening to youth, doves,and war hawks is a waste of time. Look to a older combat vet. That is your best bet for a solution to the problem.
Tom McCain says "Bomb. Bomb. Bomb. Bomb Iran."0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
"Sources also say that Bush is extremely gun shy now and is afraid to escelate anything either in iraq or elsewhere in the world."
What do you know. I had thought Bush was too stupid to learn anything, but, he evidently has learned from the Iraq disaster.
Cheney hit him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.0 -
We know that a lot of the insurgents are supplied, trained, and funded by Tehran, (EG:al-sadar) I think we need to cut the head off the snake, open all American soil to oil exploration/drilling and then drop a tactical nuke(s) on their (iran's) largest military base(s). 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
I think the US needs another black eye and bloody nose to remind the people who have forgotten just what the hell we're fighting for.
I find it rather frightening that the pro-war crowd actually has some degree of desire to see their views validated on the coffins of American dead.
Pay me now or pay me later, the grimm reaper[xx(]0 -
I am in favor of striking,..........with Israel involved deeply, but this is not the administration with the brains to do it correctly! 0 -
Cheney cant even attack his own neck tabs without a pacemaker and several friends. Damn straight 0 -
Its just a matter of time folks! You either take out the nuke plant now before they have the nukes to give over to the terriorists or wait for the full scale nuke war that is on the horizion.
Iran will use the nukes, indirectly, they will hand them off to Hamas, and other radical muslim groups. We will not stand by and watch Iran take out Israel!
The plant needs to be taken out NOW![:0][:0]
These people refuse to ever coexist with Israel or America! Like rats they need to be beat back into the caves from which they came.
Learn from History, the agenda of the Radical side of the muslims is very clear! They are on this forum and will try to influence you to take the safe road, which of course, will result in many deaths within this country before we wipe their butts off the map. The smart move is what Cheney suggests, take out the plant now, which will prevent all the rest of the Middle East from demanding nukes to protect themselves from Iran.0 -
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Its just a matter of time folks! You either take out the nuke plant now before they have the nukes to give over to the terriorists or wait for the full scale nuke war that is on the horizion.
Iran will use the nukes, indirectly, they will hand them off to Hamas, and other radical muslim groups. We will not stand by and watch Iran take out Israel!
The plant needs to be taken out NOW![:0][:0]
These people refuse to ever coexist with Israel or America! Like rats they need to be beat back into the caves from which they came.
Learn from History, the agenda of the Radical side of the muslims is very clear! They are on this forum and will try to influence you to take the safe road, which of course, will result in many deaths within this country before we wipe their butts off the map. The smart move is what Cheney suggests, take out the plant now, which will prevent all the rest of the Middle East from demanding nukes to protect themselves from Iran.
DAmn skippy! We should blow up every country with nukes cause we should be the only people to have them cause we are gods people not like the rest of the godless savages in the world!Damn styraight!0 -
Sig,........Bush won't do it! He would be too afraid of an innocent child or woman being killed. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
Sig,........Bush won't do it! He would be too afraid of an innocent child or woman being killed.
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What makes you say this?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Stink Foot
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Its just a matter of time folks! You either take out the nuke plant now before they have the nukes to give over to the terriorists or wait for the full scale nuke war that is on the horizion.
Iran will use the nukes, indirectly, they will hand them off to Hamas, and other radical muslim groups. We will not stand by and watch Iran take out Israel!
The plant needs to be taken out NOW![:0][:0]
These people refuse to ever coexist with Israel or America! Like rats they need to be beat back into the caves from which they came.
Learn from History, the agenda of the Radical side of the muslims is very clear! They are on this forum and will try to influence you to take the safe road, which of course, will result in many deaths within this country before we wipe their butts off the map. The smart move is what Cheney suggests, take out the plant now, which will prevent all the rest of the Middle East from demanding nukes to protect themselves from Iran.
DAmn skippy! We should blow up every country with nukes cause we should be the only people to have them cause we are gods people not like the rest of the godless savages in the world!Damn styraight!
No, just the countries who train their people (children) to be suicide bombers.0 -
Why do you think we are still in Iraq?
We are fighting it like another Vietnam,.......acting more or less like a "police" force, instead of kicking their butts!!
He is "gunshy", at this point.0 -
just cheney? kinda doubt it.
we all want to blast em and you know it![;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
Sig,........Bush won't do it! He would be too afraid of an innocent child or woman being killed.
I agree Marc! Bush has the popularity rating of a three toed sloth right now. He will not take any more steps to release the troops to do the job that they all know they have to do and need to do.
Politics has taken over the war and that effort is finished when that happens, in most cases. If the American people could take off the blinders and become visonaries and look out beyond the current TV programming they would all see the big battle looming on the horizion. Egypt, and Saudi Arabia are both very frightened by what they see going on in Iran, as is Israel. Someone needs to move and move fast before the job falls to Israel. If the US took out the nuke plant it would be more widely accepted in the Middle East than if Israel is required to do the job.
If Israel attacks the plant we will be drawn into the conflict. If we all wait until Iran has the Nukes and the delivery systems we will be nuked and New York City may be no more. And we will be drawn into a much larger conflict with many civilian deaths on both sides.
Its only logical that we take out the plant while we can do it with troops and aircraft right next door so we can do it without killing lots of civilains. Yea, we may have to take out their air force and yea we will lose some more guys but it will save Millions of lives later on. Fight them before they become the 800 lb gorilla in the living room!
American has over 4 million muslims in this country already. How many are linned up waiting to act on behalf of their twisted view of what their God wants for the world. They don't care how many of your children or wives,sisters that they kill. They love that because it puts fear into your heart, thats what they do. They would blow up the Indy 500 and all chant in the street! So my point is the only way you deal with those kinds of people is to put yourself in their minds and react accordingly. It took extream courage to achieve freemdon in America and it will take a lot of courage to keep it free! Iran has stated its goals and they are not to achieve peace.0 -
Sig,........I agree with EVERYTHING, that you said.
I was simply commenting on Bush's lack of leadership at this point,.......and I voted for him twice.
Israel, I believe,.....WILL do something at some point, but, I,......like you believe that will cause a situation that we can't even imagine.
Wish we had the leadership to do it, while we are right next door!0 -
The Armageddon, End of Days scenario.
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quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
The Armageddon, End of Days scenario.
Doug
You very well could be correct Doug.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
The Armageddon, End of Days scenario.
Doug
If Iran is allowed to build nukes it most definatly will be![:(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by .280 freak
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
Had we fought World War II as we have seen fit to "fight" the war on terror, we'd have reacted to the bombing of Pearl Harbor by attacking Brazil....
Oh, come on now!
El Muerto, that was a cheap shot and you know it. I would have expected better of you.
The first action that the US took after 9/11 was to go into Afghanistan trying like Hell to get Bin Laden. Funny how people seem to overlook that inconvenient fact.
Say what you will about whether or not the "War on Terror" should have expanded into Iraq, the plain and simple truth is that we DIDN'T respond by invading "Brazil"!
Hey .280, give the deaf monkey a break. That was a most skillful use of a metaphor. Allow a little literary license here. EMM wasn't being literal, just sharp use of the language.
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Well boys like it or not we're going to have to deal with them one way or another at some point. I'd rather do it BEFORE they can get a nuke. If Carter had, had some stones, maybe it would be a different situation there now. Dave 0 -
quote:Originally posted by use enough gun
Well boys like it or not we're going to have to deal with them one way or another at some point. I'd rather do it BEFORE they can get a nuke. If Carter had, had some stones, maybe it would be a different situation there now. Dave
Yeah, 'cause sending in those Delta Force p*$$!#s was his way of shaowing a lack of resolve...
Why, if he had only sold weapons to the ayatollahs sooner like Reagan did, this might have been avoided.[}:)]0 -
The reason the Delta Force p****rs,.......as you put it failed, was because of the huge drawdown of our military abilities from the Dems.
Even special forces were strained, and that is what caused that debacle. We need to let go of Dem,.......Rep, and think American going forward!
If you believe that Jimmy Carter was a president to be proud of,.......you have much more imagination than I do!
And that is from a person that is disgusted with Bush at this point.
The poor peanut farmer,.......is suffering from dementia at this point, I believe.0 -
I would rather kick their asses back to the stone age and be proven wrong than for them to nuke us and prove me right 0 -
Hmm anyway and the the civilians flee Iraq and Iran.so what u going to do bout all the innocent refugees you're responsible for ?
As it is now they all want to come to Sweden.And that overloads our Swedish system.0 -
Attack Iran? Great idea. Would be a great idea for getting $8 a gallon gas overnight. 0 -
Horney at least you can compensate by buying som oilrelated stocks.
and even make a small fortune of it.0 -
Nuts, the White House has been denying plans to invade Iran for years. The NYT and others keeps bringing this stuff up. Makes me wonder who is doing the provoking here. Is the leftists in the media above stirring up crap just to make things difficult for the the President?
The NYT, Time, Mewsweek above lying about this President.
This is what "freedom of speech" has brought us, a deceitful press!
If the press was the fourth branch of the government, I'd support political assassinations.
Maybe we shouldn't scrap the Second Amendment just yet.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
Yes lets stick our tail between our legs and hold up the white flag next time Bin laden or anyone else smacks us around. Hell we should of done that when the Japs bombed Pearl. Just think of how many lifes it would have saved, and not only our own.
Had we fought World War II as we have seen fit to "fight" the war on terror, we'd have reacted to the bombing of Pearl Harbor by attacking Brazil, saying that Tojo was seeking to spread Japanese Imperialism to South America in an attempt to cut off the Panama Canal.
After that, we'd have attacked Ireland for not declaring war on Japan.
And all the while we'd be leaving the real aggressors - Japan and Germany - unmolested.
Hell, given how we've treated the "Axis of Evil," we'd have gone to the League of Nations to censure Japan and would have given Nazi Germany money for a promise not to attack us. (Just think of North Korea if that example is too much for you to wrap your head around)
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quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
"So past and present Iran has supplied money, technology, equipment and manpower for terrorist actions against the U.S. and our peace keeping forces abroad, yet some here think if we stick our heads in the sand it'll go away? They're radical Muslims who hate us and want us dead, period. They have no use for us other than fertilizer.
Now we should do nothing and let them get the bomb? Gee, I wonder how that'll end?
Don't play nice with a rabid dog, kill it. Stealth surgical strikes now."
Mike
Mike, it is too bad you weren't around to advise Presiden Nixon.
You could have saved the world a lot of trouble. See, in 1970, Russia was supplying North Vietnam with anti aircraft missles, called SAMs.
Hundreds of U.S. airmen were killed by these missles. If you had been around to advise the President, we would have launched surgical strikes against Russia. Within 24 hours, the world would have ceased to exist.
Or, you could have been an adviser to the Kremlin in 1985. American operatives, who hated Russians and wanted them dead, saw to it that hundreds of shoulder fired U.S. anti aircraft missles were supplied to the fanatical Muslim fighters in Afghanistan. Hundreds of Russian aircraft were destroyed by these missles. You could have advised Russia to make a few surgical strikes against America.
Sure glad none of you guys are in a position of power that would determine our future on this planet.
So, you can post to your hearts content about what's wrong with America, "it don't mean nuthin'!"0
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