Civil War
Is about to start.
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Don't mean to be stirrin' up a pot here, boys, so if one of the mods wants to lock this before it goes south(or north), it's OK with me. I had kin on both sides. I'm reminded of a quote from the movie, "The Outlaw Josey Wales"
"I guess we all died a little in that damn war."0 -
...well, do you think if HR 1022 passes or any other un-constitutional bill is passed a civil war should be in order? 0 -
i don't think they get it. succeed! no it ain't that way its gonna be a full blown revolution. but ,that's just a poor gun-less country boy thinking.if anybody goes looking ill be in the swamp
NUBIE ON THAT BUCKER BROWN!!!!0 -
We all can read in history of how bloody the first US civil war was, so does anyone think it can't happen again?
Are we to educated/sophisticated to allow another war like that on American soil?
I read in the other thread about a soldier either obeying his commander or constitution.
I really can't ever seeing it happen on a large scale.0 -
Mexico's civil war ignites in America
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78548
The Mexican government and the drug cartels that operate throughout Mexico are locked in a battle over control of the country. With the Mexican army fully deployed and often fighting ex-Mexican army special forces working for the cartels, this is, in scope and casualties, truly a civil war.
To date this year, some 3,500 Mexicans have died in this war. In just the first 15 days of October, there were 387 deaths in Mexico City, 178 in the state of Chihuahua and 90 in Baja California - all attributable to the government versus cartel war.
Were it not for the fact that the cartels are also frequently at war with one another, they might have won the war by now and would be in control of Mexico.
The National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers extracts and condenses stories that appear in the Mexican press on a daily basis. For the English reader, this site is a frightening window into the war in Mexico not available in the American press.
NAFBPO, for example, ran an English translation of the lead article from the Oct. 17 edition of El Universal (Mexico City) which included this grisly information:
"Confrontations by Mexican federal and state forces against groups believed to be linked with organized crime produced 33 deaths in Mexico (City) between Wednesday night and Thursday ... a shootout took place between military personnel and men in a vehicle south of Ciudad Juarez ... a human head was found in the center of town in Chihuahua City; the body was located in Santa Eulalia, some 20 kilometers away."
Such stories run every day in newspapers throughout Mexico whose owners, editors and reporters and their families are under constant threat from the drug cartels.
Execution-style murders, beheadings, dismemberings and kidnappings are common now in every state in Mexico on a daily basis. Gun battles are near nightly events in Tijuana and in Mexican towns all along the border. Mexican border town officials have crossed into the U.S. seeking asylum, fearing for their lives.
The U.S. State Department has issued a travel alert warning American tourists that Mexico is too dangerous. U.S. "Drug Czar" John Walters was in Mexico City last week assuring the Mexican government that more U.S. aid to fight the drug cartels is "in the pipeline."
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And now the bad news: The Mexican civil war is spilling over into the U.S.
Reports of incursions into the U.S. by heavily armed men in Mexican army uniforms (and often driving U.S.-made Humvees) now occur on a regular basis. Sometimes the "soldiers" are cartel men, probably ex-Mexican army; sometimes they are real Mexican army. In every case, their purpose is to protect a drug run into the U.S. and back off any lightly armed local sheriff or Border Patrol agent in the way.
The Border Patrol has issued new guidelines for its officers, fearful that any day now, a full blown firefight on U.S. soil will make headlines in both countries.
The Mexican civil war came to Las Vegas, Nev., last week and 6-year-old Cole Puffinburger, 48 pounds and barely 4 feet tall, was its victim.
A group of three Latino men with "heavy accents" and wearing police uniforms invaded the home where Cole and his mother lived, tied up the mother and her current boyfriend, ransacked the house looking for money, and abducted Cole.
Las Vegas is a major distribution point for drugs coming from Mexico into the U.S. The Mexican drug cartels have bought up foreclosed houses in northeastern and southeastern Las Vegas as way stations for drug shipments and as safe houses.
The Las Vegas police, assisted by the FBI, DEA and ICE, theorize that the home invasion and abduction resulted from Cole's grandfather keeping millions of dollars of cartel drug profits instead of laundering the money back to Mexico.
The 51-year-old grandfather, Clemens Fred Tinnemeyer, reportedly owed the cartel between $8 million and $20 million. He was arrested last weekend in Riverside, Calif. A Mexican national, Jesus Gastelum, is being sought as a "person of interest."
At the time of this column, here has been no word as of Cole's whereabouts.
In large and small ways, the violence of the Mexican civil war has come to the U.S. - to my community and yours.
It's past time for the American government to secure the border and crack down on the cartels.0 -
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Tommorow[:o)]0 -
I am reading about the Battle of Gettysburg and Pickett's charge. They keep refering to "the angle".
Would someone explain what is meant by the term angle. I know it has something to do with a stone fence and a grove of trees but I do not know the details.
Thanks
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As long as we keep it Civil 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
As long as we keep it Civil
How would we do that?0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
As long as we keep it Civil
Thats mighty funny! [:D][:D] Laughed right out loud at that one.0 -
We would be wiped out.
A reasonable justification for a civil war could be the the continued appeasement of the criminal mexicans.
Doug0 -
no. just new government. by the people for the people. American people, not mexican, european or socialist garbage. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
We would be wiped out.
A reasonable justification for a civil war could be the the continued appeasement of the criminal mexicans.
Doug
I so very much agree.0 -
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
no. just new government. by the people for the people. American people, not mexican, european or socialist garbage.
European? My family came from Germany far more than a century and a half ago, but the last time I checked, Germany was a part of Europe.
Have we been here long enough to qualify for being "American" under your stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance?
Just wondering, because I wouldn't want to get in the way of you "real" Americans.0 -
I think the Russkie was making a point through a literary device.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I think the Russkie was making a point through a literary device.
Doug
I understand, but it was a pretty poor point, wasn't it. Just where in the hell does he think most of the population here came from?
Oz, Xanadu, Omega III, Epsilon? We all came from somewhere, even the damn Russians, and you can't leave out the "Native Americans".
I just got in from racing a storm to plant the last 70 acres of crops. I got it done, I'm dead tired, covered with dirt, oil, diesel fuel, seed chemicals, and weed killers. I'm not in much of a mood for bullsnit from some jackass about immigrants when we all started out that way once upon a time. What in the hell part of the U.S. does he think Russia is?0 -
NOPE; That would be un-Constitutional.
You MUST make changes by voting change.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
As long as we keep it Civil
Civil seems to be being totally ignored.0 -
We have thousands of "gun control" laws on the books right now. Each and every one of them unconstitutional. We haven't gone to war over it yet. I doubt if we will this time. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
no. just new government. by the people for the people. American people, not mexican, european or socialist garbage.
European? My family came from Germany far more than a century and a half ago, but the last time I checked, Germany was a part of Europe.
Have we been here long enough to qualify for being "American" under your stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance?
Just wondering, because I wouldn't want to get in the way of you "real" Americans.
what exactly were you trying to say here? that you're not American but are German even though you and your family has been here for over 150 years? or does the word American piss you off? or was it the referense to european socialism? i don't understand what exactly you disagree with here.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
We would be wiped out.
How many YEARS have we been in Iraq?
A place the size of California, and they haven't been "wiped out" yet.
I don't sell the citizens of this country that short.
We would have more of a chance, than some are led to believe.
A civil war over HR 1022, I don't think so.
APATHY RUNS RAMPANT.0 -
The second American Civil War will begin after the horde of Muslems
we have brainlessly admitted into this country have converted the Black rabble who don't need much of a cause to riot and destroy.
The lefties will probably ally with them to try and destabilize the US.0 -
Down with the Socialists!
No Compromise!0 -
If a civil war broke out my Yankee butt would be running south getting fitted for a grey uniform!! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
We would be wiped out.
How many YEARS have we been in Iraq?
A place the size of California, and they haven't been "wiped out" yet.
I don't sell the citizens of this country that short.
We would have more of a chance, than some are led to believe.
A civil war over HR 1022, I don't think so.
APATHY RUNS RAMPANT.
besides everything else, just taking in the account that IF it happens for whatever reason, do you really thing the military will actually get involved and shoot their own? i don't think so, it ain't China. or am i overly optimistic?0 -
It amazes me how slow some of you are at learning!! Take a look at the results of the War Between the States; then take a look at what the Non-Violent methods in India accomplished- Then see if you can transfer a little of that knowledge to what you want to gain with regard to your personal freedoms. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
It amazes me how slow some of you are at learning!! Take a look at the results of the War Between the States; then take a look at what the Non-Violent methods in India accomplished- Then see if you can transfer a little of that knowledge to what you want to gain with regard to your personal freedoms.
won't speak for all, just myself: sorry, Sir, i am too da-n stupid to correlate these events, current situation and your point, could you please explain it "like i am a four year old".0 -
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
We would be wiped out.
How many YEARS have we been in Iraq?
A place the size of California, and they haven't been "wiped out" yet.
I don't sell the citizens of this country that short.
We would have more of a chance, than some are led to believe.
A civil war over HR 1022, I don't think so.
APATHY RUNS RAMPANT.
So so true. See ya on the other side Doug-pass the aamo pick!0 -
I thin I would have to switch sides. There are more of them then there are of us, and I love Mexican food.[:D]
Trinity +++0 -
quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
My family came from Germany far more than a century and a half ago, but the last time I checked, Germany was a part of Europe.
Have we been here long enough to qualify for being "American" under your stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance?
Just wondering, because I wouldn't want to get in the way of you "real" Americans.
You're not one of them "illegal" Dual Citizens are you?
My family has been on this land for 500 years, when Nova Scotia was still Arkadia.0
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