DeLorean Motor Co. returns to business
Texas Entrepreneur Set to Start Building DeLorean Cars
Monday , August 20, 2007
HUMBLE, Texas -
In a nondescript warehouse in east Texas, mechanic and entrepreneur Stephen Wynne is bringing a rare sports car back to life. If he succeeds, he almost certainly has Michael J. Fox to thank.
A quarter century after DeLorean Motor Co. began making its glitzy, $25,000 two-seater - an operation that collapsed after two years - Wynne's small automotive outfit plans to bring the vehicle back into limited production at a 40,000-square-foot factory in this Houston suburb.
The creation of renowned automotive engineer John DeLorean, DMC eventually made fewer than 9,000 cars, distinctive for their gull-wing doors, stainless-steel exterior and rear-engine design. An estimated 6,500 remain on the road.
PHOTOS: DeLoreans Make a Comeback
Despite DMC's flop, the car has persevered, gaining notoriety largely as the time machine Fox drove in the blockbuster 1985 movie, "Back to the Future," and its two sequels.
The trilogy's enduring popularity on cable TV has exposed countless viewers - and potential customers - to a souped-up version of the DeLorean.
"There isn't a day somewhere in the world that 'Back to the Future' isn't playing as a rerun," said Wynne, president of the new, privately held DeLorean Motor Co.
Wynne formed the company in 1995, when the bulk of his business was working on original DeLoreans at a Houston garage. Still, he needed a name, and because there was nothing legally preventing him from using the original, he decided to give it a shot. He even called John DeLorean, who wished him luck.
A dozen years later, Wynne hopes to parlay the car's celebrity - along with the world's biggest stash of DeLorean parts and engines - into a niche production business that begins hand-making two DeLoreans a month sometime next year. They've just started taking orders.
Already, the Humble operation will take an existing DeLorean, strip it to the frame and rebuild it for a base price of $42,500. Wynne's staff can rebuild one every couple of months.
The company also handles routine maintenance, such as oil changes and tuneups, and ships between 20 and 50 parts orders a day to mechanics and individual owners worldwide.
But because the original models are roughly 25 years old, finding suitable candidates to refurbish has become increasingly difficult.
So Wynne figured: Why not use the thousands of parts and hundreds of engines sitting in his massive warehouse and build the cars from scratch?
"Everything seems to evolve around here, and that seemed to be the next logical step," said Wynne, a Briton who began working on DeLoreans in the 1980s in Los Angeles, becoming expert in their mechanics and equipment. He eventually expanded to suburban Houston and opted to make his base here, in part because of the lower cost of living.
Like other DeLorean mechanics at the time, Wynne bought replacement parts from an Ohio company, Kapac Co., which had acquired the original inventory when DeLorean failed. In 1997, when Kapac wanted out of the parts business, Wynne bought the supply for himself, though he declined to say how much he paid.
A decade later, he's decided to take the company to the next level: Niche automaker.
The handmade cars will feature about 80 percent original parts. The other 20 percent will be new, supplier-made parts from companies such Valeo SA and the Bosch Group, said DeLorean vice president James Espey.
The one limiting factor is the doors. The company has enough for about 500 cars, though it's important to keep some in stock for repairs and such. Beyond that, Espey said, the company is studying its options.
Enhancements to the new cars will include an improved stainless-steel frame, a stronger but lighter fiberglass underbody and electronics upgraded from the disastrous systems in the early DeLoreans. A peppier engine - the original cars' 135 horsepower was a downer for performance enthusiasts - will be available as an option.
"After working on these cars practically every day for 25 years, we've identified most of the issues and replaced them," Wynne said. "If there's a better part available, we'll use it. If there's a better way to install it, we'll do it."
The base price of a new DeLorean is expected to be $57,500 - roughly the same price a 1981 DeLorean would have cost in today's dollars. The company will sell the cars from its shop in Humble and affiliate shops in Bonita Springs, Fla., Crystal Lake, Ill., Bellevue, Wash., and Orange County, Calif. DMC also has a shop in the Netherlands for European owners.
"It's taken years to get the wheels moving, and they're moving slowly, but we've got motion," Wynne said.
Ken Baker likes the company's direction - so much so that the Bentley and Rolls Royce sales executive in Fort Lauderdale drives his own original DeLorean and heads that region's DeLorean owners group.
A car guy to the core, Baker says he became enamored with John DeLorean in high school after reading DeLorean's book, "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors," the author's critical look inside his former employer.
DeLorean was the antithesis of the buttoned-down auto executive of his day, sporting designer suits, dating models and moving in celebrity circles. While at GM in the 1960s, he created what some consider the first "muscle car," putting a V-8 engine into a Pontiac Tempest and calling it the GTO.
When DeLorean began making his own car in Northern Ireland in 1981, Baker says he fell in love with it. Of course, as a teenager, he wasn't able to shell out $25,000. Now, at 41, Baker is a proud DeLorean owner.
"You have to understand it's a car that never got to its full development because it was gone before it really hit its prime," Baker said. "And you have to realize it's 25 years old. But understanding that, it's fun to drive and very comfortable."
Unfortunately, DeLorean simply couldn't sell enough of the cars to sustain the business. The company folded in 1983, a year after DeLorean was busted in a drug trafficking sting and accused of conspiring to sell $24 million worth of cocaine to salvage the venture. He used an entrapment defense to win acquittal, but legal entanglements plagued him for years to come. He died in 2005 at age 80.
Kevin Smith, editorial director for the automotive Web site Edmunds.com, said he's interested to see if the Humble effort fares better than the Irish debacle. He said quality control is often an issue with limited production, "but I'm always optimistic for people who want to make new and interesting cars."
The newest version of the DeLorean will certainly be interesting and exclusive, Smith said, "and for some people with means, that's enough."
Monday , August 20, 2007
HUMBLE, Texas -
In a nondescript warehouse in east Texas, mechanic and entrepreneur Stephen Wynne is bringing a rare sports car back to life. If he succeeds, he almost certainly has Michael J. Fox to thank.
A quarter century after DeLorean Motor Co. began making its glitzy, $25,000 two-seater - an operation that collapsed after two years - Wynne's small automotive outfit plans to bring the vehicle back into limited production at a 40,000-square-foot factory in this Houston suburb.
The creation of renowned automotive engineer John DeLorean, DMC eventually made fewer than 9,000 cars, distinctive for their gull-wing doors, stainless-steel exterior and rear-engine design. An estimated 6,500 remain on the road.
PHOTOS: DeLoreans Make a Comeback
Despite DMC's flop, the car has persevered, gaining notoriety largely as the time machine Fox drove in the blockbuster 1985 movie, "Back to the Future," and its two sequels.
The trilogy's enduring popularity on cable TV has exposed countless viewers - and potential customers - to a souped-up version of the DeLorean.
"There isn't a day somewhere in the world that 'Back to the Future' isn't playing as a rerun," said Wynne, president of the new, privately held DeLorean Motor Co.
Wynne formed the company in 1995, when the bulk of his business was working on original DeLoreans at a Houston garage. Still, he needed a name, and because there was nothing legally preventing him from using the original, he decided to give it a shot. He even called John DeLorean, who wished him luck.
A dozen years later, Wynne hopes to parlay the car's celebrity - along with the world's biggest stash of DeLorean parts and engines - into a niche production business that begins hand-making two DeLoreans a month sometime next year. They've just started taking orders.
Already, the Humble operation will take an existing DeLorean, strip it to the frame and rebuild it for a base price of $42,500. Wynne's staff can rebuild one every couple of months.
The company also handles routine maintenance, such as oil changes and tuneups, and ships between 20 and 50 parts orders a day to mechanics and individual owners worldwide.
But because the original models are roughly 25 years old, finding suitable candidates to refurbish has become increasingly difficult.
So Wynne figured: Why not use the thousands of parts and hundreds of engines sitting in his massive warehouse and build the cars from scratch?
"Everything seems to evolve around here, and that seemed to be the next logical step," said Wynne, a Briton who began working on DeLoreans in the 1980s in Los Angeles, becoming expert in their mechanics and equipment. He eventually expanded to suburban Houston and opted to make his base here, in part because of the lower cost of living.
Like other DeLorean mechanics at the time, Wynne bought replacement parts from an Ohio company, Kapac Co., which had acquired the original inventory when DeLorean failed. In 1997, when Kapac wanted out of the parts business, Wynne bought the supply for himself, though he declined to say how much he paid.
A decade later, he's decided to take the company to the next level: Niche automaker.
The handmade cars will feature about 80 percent original parts. The other 20 percent will be new, supplier-made parts from companies such Valeo SA and the Bosch Group, said DeLorean vice president James Espey.
The one limiting factor is the doors. The company has enough for about 500 cars, though it's important to keep some in stock for repairs and such. Beyond that, Espey said, the company is studying its options.
Enhancements to the new cars will include an improved stainless-steel frame, a stronger but lighter fiberglass underbody and electronics upgraded from the disastrous systems in the early DeLoreans. A peppier engine - the original cars' 135 horsepower was a downer for performance enthusiasts - will be available as an option.
"After working on these cars practically every day for 25 years, we've identified most of the issues and replaced them," Wynne said. "If there's a better part available, we'll use it. If there's a better way to install it, we'll do it."
The base price of a new DeLorean is expected to be $57,500 - roughly the same price a 1981 DeLorean would have cost in today's dollars. The company will sell the cars from its shop in Humble and affiliate shops in Bonita Springs, Fla., Crystal Lake, Ill., Bellevue, Wash., and Orange County, Calif. DMC also has a shop in the Netherlands for European owners.
"It's taken years to get the wheels moving, and they're moving slowly, but we've got motion," Wynne said.
Ken Baker likes the company's direction - so much so that the Bentley and Rolls Royce sales executive in Fort Lauderdale drives his own original DeLorean and heads that region's DeLorean owners group.
A car guy to the core, Baker says he became enamored with John DeLorean in high school after reading DeLorean's book, "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors," the author's critical look inside his former employer.
DeLorean was the antithesis of the buttoned-down auto executive of his day, sporting designer suits, dating models and moving in celebrity circles. While at GM in the 1960s, he created what some consider the first "muscle car," putting a V-8 engine into a Pontiac Tempest and calling it the GTO.
When DeLorean began making his own car in Northern Ireland in 1981, Baker says he fell in love with it. Of course, as a teenager, he wasn't able to shell out $25,000. Now, at 41, Baker is a proud DeLorean owner.
"You have to understand it's a car that never got to its full development because it was gone before it really hit its prime," Baker said. "And you have to realize it's 25 years old. But understanding that, it's fun to drive and very comfortable."
Unfortunately, DeLorean simply couldn't sell enough of the cars to sustain the business. The company folded in 1983, a year after DeLorean was busted in a drug trafficking sting and accused of conspiring to sell $24 million worth of cocaine to salvage the venture. He used an entrapment defense to win acquittal, but legal entanglements plagued him for years to come. He died in 2005 at age 80.
Kevin Smith, editorial director for the automotive Web site Edmunds.com, said he's interested to see if the Humble effort fares better than the Irish debacle. He said quality control is often an issue with limited production, "but I'm always optimistic for people who want to make new and interesting cars."
The newest version of the DeLorean will certainly be interesting and exclusive, Smith said, "and for some people with means, that's enough."
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Interesting read. Thanks. 0 -
As the old joke goes-
How do you know a DeLorean is in front of you?
the white line on the side of the road is missing.[:I]
I still see some here and there.0 -
I sure hope they use something instead of the Renault engines.. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
I sure hope they use something instead of the Renault engines..
I worked at a Pontiac dealer that sold them during their short "life". Not a bad handling sports car, their Achilles heel was the drivetrain mentioned by Selct-fire. It was actually a joint project of Peugeot(known as "Piggots" in the car business), Renault, and Volvo. He's right it needs a good powerplant.
Even with a modern reliable drivetrain the $55,00-$60,000 they say a DeLorean will go for is getting into Corvette price range, a light years superior sports car in every respect. To name just a couple In the $30,000-$35,000 range you have the 400Hp GTO and the GT Mustang, both of which will run circles around a Delorean with any engine you could shoehorn into one. Not to mention Imports in the $60,000 and under range. Now if you want to spend $80,000 a new 505 H.P. ZO6 will put a grin on your face that would take a $200,000 Euro Super Car to beat.
Maybe it will have a SMALL niche market, but the competition in this area is heavy and good. If it's a public company I wouldn't be buying stock, and if they're offering franchises I wouldn't be buying in.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
HUMBLE, Texas -
Isn't this an oxymoron?0 -
quote:DancesWithSheep
Advanced Member
11646 Posts
Posted - 08/20/2007 : 9:43:15 PM
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Originally posted by dheffley
HUMBLE, Texas -
Isn't this an oxymoron?
naha its a place out side of Houston [:D][}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
I sure hope they use something instead of the Renault engines..
Actually, they were PRV engines. (stands for Peugot, Renault, Volvo).
All three cars and the Delorean used the PRV.
I have one, a 1981 with just over 10K original miles. They are not fast, but when I drive it all kinds of people start asking questions about it, taking pictures with their camera phones, etc. It's a wide car.
DMCH is a good parts supplier; I just hope they don't use up all the parts by building "new" Deloreans. At $57,500.00 base price, I don't imagine they're going to sell a large number of cars. You can find a good Delorean on Ebay for less than $25K most all the time.
I bought mine to keep, have owned it for 15 years.0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
I sure hope they use something instead of the Renault engines..
I knew a guy who had a couple DeLorean cars and I thought they had a GM 305 V8????? Maybe I am confused, getting old ya know.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
I sure hope they use something instead of the Renault engines..
I knew a guy who had a couple DeLorean cars and I thought they had a GM 305 V8????? Maybe I am confused, getting old ya know.
Delorean were a rear engine 6 cylinder. The engine was built by Renault for Delorean.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
I sure hope they use something instead of the Renault engines..
I knew a guy who had a couple DeLorean cars and I thought they had a GM 305 V8????? Maybe I am confused, getting old ya know.
Delorean were a rear engine 6 cylinder. The engine was built by Renault for Delorean.
I had an AMC product with a Renault engine. The engine was JUNK!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
I had an AMC product with a Renault engine. The engine was JUNK!!
I was dumb enough to actually have a Renault once. The whole car was junk!0 -
lets hope they sort the electrics,air con,brakes ,cooling & get a descent motor in there, say a Benz/crysler 3.2...
cos the 80's models were poo!!!![xx(]0 -
"Back to the future"[?] 0 -
DOC... DOC... DOC... YOU MADE A TIMEMACHINE...... OUT OF A DELOREAN ?!?!?!?!? 0 -
Hmmm.....there's a Delorean over here on Guam. It's been sitting in the back of a used car lot for atleast 10+ years.
I bet they would give it away.
Texasvet, need parts? I think the car is complete.
I'll go take pictures of it this week and see if they still want money for it or would consider giving it away.
Shipping it back to the States would cost about $2,000 unless you know a GI over here and he could ship it back under his orders for free.0 -
Back in my days I was interested in the Coke Machine. The engine was the deciding factor for not getting one. I decided instead to get the Pantera. It was a great car to drive, but it to had some faults. During the five years I drove it, I upgraded those parts and then parked it. It was stored for 15 years and then I sold it 2 years ago.
Parked for 15 years and the guy that bought it put in a battery and drove it home.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
I had an AMC product with a Renault engine. The engine was JUNK!!
I was dumb enough to actually have a Renault once. The whole car was junk!
I bought one at an auction for $50 complete. It ran and did not smoke. I used it on a circle track in my field. I ran it till it quit and then shot the living daylights out of it, chopped it up with the recip saw and took the scrap to the metal yard. What a true junk car.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Alliance0 -
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Thanks for the posting. Interesting. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ObiWan
Hmmm.....there's a Delorean over here on Guam. It's been sitting in the back of a used car lot for atleast 10+ years.
I bet they would give it away.
Texasvet, need parts? I think the car is complete.
I'll go take pictures of it this week and see if they still want money for it or would consider giving it away.
Shipping it back to the States would cost about $2,000 unless you know a GI over here and he could ship it back under his orders for free.
Thanks, Obi --
I'm in good shape, mine only has 10K miles on it and is like new.0
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