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MIAMI FOOTBALL STAR DIES AFTER SHOOTING..

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  • pabooger
    Ah Beth??? He played for the Redskins!!!
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  • 1911a1-fan
    any bets on baggy pants and drugs being involved
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Your point pa???????

    I really dont care who or what he played for...the point is, he is dead after a break in...what did he grab from under the bed?...would it have made a diff if he had a gun?
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  • Sig220_Ruger77
    quote:I really dont care who or what he played for...the point is, he is dead after a break in...what did he grab from under the bed?...would it have made a diff if he had a gun?

    Yep, thats the part of the story that we should concentrate on.

    BTW-- Taylor did play for the Miami Hurricanes when he was in college.

    Jon
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by Jon0322
    quote:I really dont care who or what he played for...the point is, he is dead after a break in...what did he grab from under the bed?...would it have made a diff if he had a gun?

    Yep, thats the part of the story that we should concentrate on.

    BTW-- Taylor did play for the Miami Hurricanes when he was in college.

    Jon
    He also went to my high school, albeit I graduated many years before him. I just got an e-mail that he was an alumnus of Gulliver Prep School in Miami, http://www.gulliverschools.org. They already have a notice up expressing their condolences.
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  • fishkiller41
    Same thing happens, 100 times a day, in cities all across this Country.
    We only get to hear about the cases that involve people that "matter" To someone other than their families. Sad![V]
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  • dolfan
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He also went to my high school...of Gulliver Prep School in Miami, Gulliver is one of if not the most prestigious (ie: expensive) private school in Miami. BTW, it's actually located in the City of Coral Gables, where I live...but Miami area nonetheless.
    OJ enrolled his 2 kids at Gulliver after moving to Miami.

    Taylor could not own guns as he was arrested a few years ago for waving a gun and threatening someone. Taylor had an ATV stolen from him and he received a "tip" about who stole it. Shots were fired by Taylor and his buddies. Cops called, Taylor arrested...ATV never found.

    BTW, he was being sued by the "victim" of this incident (atv theft) when he was murdered.
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  • Spider7115
    I have no doubt there's much more to this story than we've been told. Stay tuned...
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  • dheffley
    Sean was a GREAT football player, and had begun to turn his behavior around after his child was born. He will be missed by the Redskins, but also by all NFL fans, of which I am one.

    God bless Sean and his family.
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  • dolfan
    Here is a C&P from Taylor's arrest mentioned on my previous post.
    Sorry, but this paper SELLS archived articles...only this tidbit is free:

    Miami Herald - June 5, 2005 -

    REDSKINS' TAYLOR CHARGED IN SHOOTING
    Former University of Miami All-American and current Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor turned himself in to police Saturday night and was charged with aggravated assault with a firearm and battery. Taylor pointed a firearm at a person during a dispute over an allegedly stolen ATV and demanded to know where the vehicle was, said Miami-Dade police spokeswoman Linda O'Brien. The incident occurred about 1 a.m. Wednesday, O'Brien said. No one was injured but a car was...added from my recollection: The car was shot up by "allegedly" Taylor's posse. It belonged to the person Taylor suspected of stealing his ATV, the same person who still has an ongoing lawsuit against Taylor.
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  • Fairlane66
    A sad, sad case. However, it proves the point, never bring a knife to a gunfight! Would it have made a difference if Taylor had carried a gun instead of a knife? We'll never know. However, if it were me going into that dark room, I'd take a gun over a knife any day. Standoff distance makes all the difference. I'd much rather have the standoff distance and intimidation factor provided by a firearm instead of having to get within arms length of the bad guy. In Taylor's scenario, the bad guy had the standoff and the advantage.

    My personal home protection firearm is a US GI M-1 carbine with a 30-round mag--it's light, maneuverable in close quarters, provides adequate firepower without having to reload, and is more accurate (for me) than a pistol. My wife hates the idea of having a gun in the house for protection. However, if confronted with Taylor's scenario, there's no doubt in my mind what I'd do.

    By the way, my wife was a high school teacher in Montgomery, Alabama last year. Her school was a "weapons free zone." Therefore, only the thugs brought guns to school. In the last two weeks of school alone, four different kids brought loaded guns to school. Two were pregnant girls who were feuding because they were pregnant by the same thug. During the same period, my wife was beat up by four thug girls who started a brawl right in the middle of class. It took the school's security guards 3 minutes to respond to the incident. During that time, my wife sustained a laceration over her right eye, a broken finger, and several bruises from being kicked while she was on the ground. The school principal had assured me that my wife was safe and that his security guards would handle any situation. I shudder to think what would have happened to my wife had any of her assailants been armed with even a knife.

    I still say, never bring a knife to a gunfight. I contend schools should not be weapon-free zones for teachers and administrators. Every person has the right to self-defense. I think selected teachers who volunteer should be trained and authorized to carry concealed firearms in school. Then, the thugs can do their best to figure out who is helpless and who is not.

    I know, I know, I'm a neanderthal! How could I ever suggest teachers be armed with weapons equal to any assailant's? After all, someone might get hurt, right? Well, people are getting hurt all the time. Better to be trained and prepared than dead. Too bad Mr. Taylor sacrificed his right to bear arms. When he faced his assailant, I'm sure he wished for another option.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by dolfan
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He also went to my high school...of Gulliver Prep School in Miami, Gulliver is one of if not the most prestigious (ie: expensive) private school in Miami. BTW, it's actually located in the City of Coral Gables, where I live...but Miami area nonetheless.
    OJ enrolled his 2 kids at Gulliver after moving to Miami.


    Yep, it was. So was Ransom-Everglades at the time I was in high school (class of 1986). Now, Gulliver has multiple campuses in the Gables, Pinecrest, etc.

    FWIW, when I lived in Miami (near Red Road and Kendall Drive), the high school campus was NOT in Coral Gables. Gulliver Academy (the pre-8th grade campus) was in the Gables.
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  • stanman
    Posted by fishkiller:
    quote: Same thing happens, 100 times a day, in cities all across this Country.
    We only get to hear about the cases that involve people that "matter" To someone other than their families. Sad!
    You're absolutely right fishkiller.
    When I posted the same story, I left out the words "FOOTBALL STAR" so nobody, save skyking, even responded.
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=274753
    The kid may have been trying to get his life on the "right track".
    At least he was LIVING with the alleged mother of his alleged child.
    I still can't help but wonder how many other kids he and his "posse" have floating around out there.
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  • mateomasfeo
    quote:Originally posted by stanman

    When I posted the same story, I left out the words "FOOTBALL STAR" so nobody, save skyking, even responded.





    I didn't respond because there was already an active thread on the topic, not because "football star" was not in the title.
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  • stanman
    Posted by mateomasfeo:
    quote:I didn't respond because there was already an active thread on the topic, not because "football star" was not in the title.

    Sorry matty.
    Didn't see that there was already an active thread on the subject at 05:30 this morning when I originally posted the topic.
    Please provide a link to the earlier thread, I can't seem to find it.
    Thanks.
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  • mateomasfeo
    quote:Originally posted by stanman
    Posted by mateomasfeo:
    quote:I didn't respond because there was already an active thread on the topic, not because "football star" was not in the title.

    Sorry matty.
    Didn't see that there was already an active thread on the subject at 05:30 this morning when I originally posted the topic.
    Please provide a link to the earlier thread, I can't seem to find it.
    Thanks.





    I am disagreeing with your assertion that "football star" was the reason people didn't read or post on your thread.

    Likely, if you posted at 5:30 am it was well down the page from the other one and the topic was already being discussed in depth on THAT thread.
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  • mateomasfeo
    Oh, and this was before 5:30 this morning and is the one I posted on...

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=274655
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I didnt realize it was posted earlier....Have no idea where I was this morning, but obviously not here...
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  • 1911a1-fan
    could it be "Taking a knife to a gunfight?" was a poorly chosen wording for a topic, and to most people would have nothing to do with the subject

    here are 3 more similar topics with little or no response at all, i opened the topic, but did not respond since i already did in this one as well, and i care far less about a pro sports player than i do a homeless guy in Tibet

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=217921&SearchTerms=a,knife,to,a,gun,fight


    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=214321&SearchTerms=a,knife,to,a,gun,fight


    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=202410&SearchTerms=a,knife,to,a,gun,fight


    before i opened it i thought it was totally something different
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  • allen griggs
    stanman: If you will do a c&p you will get more responses. Many guys with the dial up, like me, do not even open links, takes too long, have to go clean up the damn cookies, could even get a virus etc.
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  • bhale187
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    I have no doubt there's much more to this story than we've been told. Stay tuned...

    +1
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  • mrseatle
    They say someone broke in and left a dagger in his bed a couple of weeks ago, but the "cult of Assasins" would never use firearms for an assasination. Also, they say "shot in the leg" instead of "Buckwheat".
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  • dakotashooter2
    He may have been a football star but it appears he was far from a "model citizen" and I suspect it will eventually be found to be more than a random breakin/killing. Another star who thinks they are above the law and bulletproof????????????????????
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  • allen griggs
    Someone broke in 8 days ago, rifled through the drawers, and left a knife on Taylor's bed.
    That is not a normal burglary, that is someone leaving a message.

    I heard on the radio that the gunman kicked in the door of the bedroom where Taylor was sleeping.
    Now who the hell is going to do that? You know a NFL player is in there, unless you plan on shooting him, an NFL football player will crush you like an empty beer can.
    He shot Taylor in the leg, here again sounds like someone sending a message, and probably not trying to kill. It is a fluke to get one bullet in the thigh and cut the femoral, it is a tube only about 3/4 inch wide.
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