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Flying the Goldwing Ultralight

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  • sheepdip
    Very good read but where are the pictures ?
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  • BT3
    Probaly [:)]the best thing that could have happened to it ! [:)]
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  • spasmcreek
    they were a sexy machine.. RIP...always wanted one ...had a 16-1 glide ratio if i remember right...similar craft was the mitchellwing.... next choice over the years would be a weedhopper C model...don't like cable rigs....probably safest UL flying would be a powered chute of some kind...dealer 50 miles away is tempting me on a chute & RANS at hays ks is still making fixed wings...went up for a spin when randy started building the coyote....popped up about 1500 ft & he hollered back if i would like to see better...ok...tipped the side panel up & latched it under the wing & turned that baby on its side ...thats when i fell in love with seat belts...what a hoot
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  • v35
    Nice story.
    I did a dead stick landing from 3,000 ft in a 172 with an instructor.
    It was an instrument flight with me under the hood. Unbeknown to me, he set us up over an airport. I stalled the plane to stop the prop, took the hood off and set up for a maximum glide, keeping all turns toward the airport.
    It was a memorable, satisfying flight.
    I don't think dead stick landings are taught anymore because of liability.
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  • allen griggs
    quote:Originally posted by sheepdip
    Very good read but where are the pictures ?


    I have some pretty good photos of my Goldwing. These are the old time film photos that some of you may remember.
    I don't have the wherewithal to post these on the internet. If you can do it, send me your address. I can get some color copies made and mail them to you.
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  • pickenup
    Several times I've thought about getting one of those. Still may, some day.

    Do you have a digital camera? Just take a picture of the picture. If not, let me know if no one else has volunteered to do it. I'll give it a shot.
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  • mrbruce
    I would like to see those photo's also....
    I helped a friend a Port Alleghany, Pa. lay up the wings on one years ago but never got to see it fly because he took it to Fla.
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  • tsavo303
    cool. would love some pics.
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  • sheepdip
    Found this on the net

    Empty Weight: 240 lbs.
    Gross Weight: 510 lbs.
    Wing Span: 30 ft.
    Wing Area: 140 sq.ft
    Engine: 430 Cayuna
    Cruise Speed: 55 .mph
    Stall Speed: 25 .mph
    VNE: 70 .mph
    Construction: Composite construction
    Building time: 400 .hrs
    Original Manufacturer
    Goldwing Limited

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  • allen griggs
    Those are pretty good Goldwing photos, sheepdip. Boy do those bring back some memories. That first photo must have been an early experimental model, mine had wheels like the ones in the second photo.
    They claim the weight of 240 lbs. This was a lie that Goldwing told in order to get "ultralight" classification.
    The Goldwing came out a year before the FAA made the classification as to what was an ultralight, and what wasn't. The word was, that the FAA was going to limit ultralights to being under 100 kilos, or 252 lbs. It was a big deal to be labeled an ultralight and not an "experimental aircraft", because ultralights needed no license of any kind.
    Well, I built my Goldwing, and when I weighed it, surprise! It weighed 308 pounds. Ah well, you had to be kind of a crazy rebel to mess with these aircraft, I guess Goldwing didn't mind fudging the rules a little.
    Another aspect that was believed to be part of the impending "ultralight" classification was that the aircraft had to be capable of being foot launched. Goldwing Co. actually got a guy to foot launch one of these things, I have seen the film of it. They had a harness built, so that when the guy stood up the little airplane was hanging off his shoulders. See, there was no floor under your thighs in the Goldwing cockpit, it had what we called "Fred Flintstone" brakes. When you wanted to stop, you put your feet down and dragged your shoes on the runway. I am serious, there were no other brakes. Of course with a landing speed of 35mph you hardly needed brakes.
    Anyway, this test pilot stood up, with 240 [or 308] pounds of airplane hanging from his shoulders, the motor was running. He took about three steps and the thing took off. He must have been facing into a 29mph wind, as the takeoff speed was 30 mph.
    They probably totaled 4 Goldwings before they finally managed to get that film of a guy foot launching the thing. Anyway, Goldwing did what they had to do to get the "ultralight" designation.
    OK I will try to take a digital photo of my photos. I am a G-D Luddite and I don't like this technology, I don't even know how to post a photo from the digital camera. I will see what I can do.
    Y'all who say you can post my photos, are y'all just going to take a digital picture of them and go from there?
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  • sothere
    I scan my pics on a HP officejet 6110xi then run wizard to crop,size and store them on the PC then off to Photo bucket and upload.Here are afew examples of Polariods that are pretty beat up and some 35MM

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  • pickenup
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    Y'all who say you can post my photos, are y'all just going to take a digital picture of them and go from there?
    I am, this is a digital picture of a paper picture that I took.

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  • fugawe
    Thanks for a great story! Less than 500ft/min glide is pretty good! When I was skydiving I used to get about 1000ft/min under canopy in straight flight. I want to have an 'ultralight' eventually but I'm torn between a trike and powered parachute. The trike has good cruise speed, around 60, but you can haul, launch and land a powered chute just about anywhere. The movie 'Fly Away Home' has what I think is a foot launched Mitchell wing in it, along with some awesome trike footage.
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  • allen griggs
    pickenup--I sent you an email. I got the photos scanned at the library. I want to email them to you so you can post them.
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  • IAMACLONE_2
    You ultralight flyboys are nuts!!!!!
    Pure nuts.
    Nuts.
    [:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p]
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  • allen griggs
    Would somebody help me with these photos?
    I have been messing with Photobucket for an hour. I pulled all my hair out, can't figure how to make it work.
    I have these photos on my email account.
    I could mail these photos to one of y'all who could post them.
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  • sheepdip
    Send them to me I'll post them for you
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  • allen griggs
    sheepdip:
    email me. I have to have your address to forward the photos.
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  • sheepdip
    Posted for allen griggs

    My Goldwing is the one with the wide blue stripe on the leading edge of the wing.
    The other Goldwing belonged to my buddy Jerry. I took those photos of him at about 1,500 feet.
    The photo of Jerry flying over what looks like a lunar landscape is over a kaolin mine in central Georgia.
    The photo of me crawling out from the flaming Goldwing is staged. Remember, my Goldwing was broken up by a tornado at night. When I gave my plane the Viking funeral, I got my buddy to stand by with the camera to photograph my "escape" from the burning wreckage.
    Note in one photo, you can see my "Fred Flintstone"
    brakes deployed. My brake shoes were cheap $12 KMart tennis shoes. Note cow pasture landing strip.

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  • allen griggs
    Thanks, sheepdip.


    mrbruce: You helped build a Goldwing? It is fun, isn't it?
    Makes me want to build another one.
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  • He Dog
    quote:The air was very thin and cold.

    Allen I live at almost that elevation, we gotta get you out more! Come hunt in the mountains at 7,000 - 8,000.
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  • allen griggs
    Hey, I am a Georgia boy, used to elevation of 400 feet. I was gasping for air at 6,000 feet.
    I would like to come out there and do some hunting, though.
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  • catpealer111
    I'm a little crazy, but I don't think I'd fly one of those.
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  • pickenup
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    quote:The air was very thin and cold.

    Allen I live at almost that elevation, we gotta get you out more! Come hunt in the mountains at 7,000 - 8,000.

    That is the altitude we live at.

    NICE pics.
    That STILL looks like fun.

    Guess I was a little late for the pics. [B)]
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  • Captplaid
    Great story. Thanks much.
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  • CA sucks
    Ultralights, cant get more ultralight than hanggliders before you enter the flacid paragliders (and what man wants something flacid?)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdq4RNEtPQM
    I need to get a power unit like that, should be alot of fun


    Heres me and an HG I used to fly about 2 miles from my house:

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    Heres when I got in the city paper:
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    These next 3 are from dec 26th, after christmass, flying with my new GPS/cumputerized/etc flight instruments

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    *excuse the helmet hair and droopy harness*

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    Gps flight recordings
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  • allen griggs
    Great job with the edit, sheepdip.
    Thanks a lot.
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  • allen griggs
    Some of y'all seem interested in my little airplane, here is the thread from 2 1/2 years ago.
    Since then I have figured out how to work photos.
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