ammo cache
tried , tested , proven. to store a supply of ammo, and a rifle cheap. spray down both liberally with wd40 soaking it then cut an inner tube across so to have a long tube, put the old rifle in and the ammo, and seal with rubber cement. bury in a cave or under a rock overhang. i placed one 10 years ago and it is as when i buried it[;)][:D]
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Thanks tomahawk. I wish I lived somewhere like you describe.
All the areas I used to play in, from shooting to atv/4-wheeling, etc. have all been developed. Except for the Everglades...but the FEDs have pretty much put a stop to these activities there.0 -
How about dry ice or disicant packs? The dry ice would remove the oxygen and the disicant would remove moisture. 0 -
what a lot of us did in `96(but not me ,i`m a law abading citizen if any local cops read this)is use a good quality vasaline, glue and seal an end cap on pvc pipe cut to size of gun, put the gun in, glue a candle on the other end cap, light the candle, glue and seal other end cap in place...the candle burns all the oxtgen in the pipe,...not oxygen, no rust....i`ve been told by people i know that it works, but as i said, i wouldnt know. 0 -
PVC pipe sealed with a pound or two of Nitrogen would be my choice. Being involved with pipeline repairs nitrogen is very available. Now to find some pvc pipe. 0 -
I would use Nitrous Oxide as my inert gas. 0 -
For what it is worth. My friend Lee went into business selling a preservitive oil for marine use. He had WD-40 and other oils tested. WD-40 is a very good lite weight oil. It's unique smell comes from vanilla being added so that when we go buy an oil our brain is supposed to remember the smell and remind us of WD-40. What vanilla does to guns and wood we never spoke about as his concern was for boats that were around salt water. Some years ago there was a TV story about other companies that used smell association as a marketing trick. 0 -
I would use LPS-3 or Rustlick 631 for ferrous metal, a penetrant like WD-40 is not designed for any long term storage, and not good for any ammo.....
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quote:Originally posted by freemind
How about dry ice or disicant packs? The dry ice would remove the oxygen and the disicant would remove moisture.
ever hear of a dry ice bomb?, it doesn't remove oxygen it replaces it, by 800x it's volume
water excelerates dry ice assimilation, but even without water present it will still explode0 -
Vacuum sealed some of my ammo in food saver bags. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
quote:Originally posted by freemind
How about dry ice or disicant packs? The dry ice would remove the oxygen and the disicant would remove moisture.
ever hear of a dry ice bomb?, it doesn't remove oxygen it replaces it, by 800x it's volume
water excelerates dry ice assimilation, but even without water present it will still explode
I won't argue with you. However MANY, MANY long term storage (food) site recomend using dry ice and allowing it to melt BEFORE tightly sealing the container. I was merely using this same principal applied to gun storage.0 -
Thanks for the info, Tomahawk. Good read. Makes me wonder what would happen if I were to bury the stuff in moist soil for ten years? Most important long-term preservation item in your post is the cave. Make no doubt about it.
..sure wish I had a cave. Joe0 -
??? vacume sealing ammo ?? would make a large pressure difference between the continer and the inside of the ammo would that not over time remove all the air from the inside of the shell case? would this not affect the preformance of the ammo?? 0 -
the cave is cozy and stays about 58 to 62 degrees if my thermometer works. when i was young, i would hunt and stay there for a week at a time in the woods,hunting ,fishing,running my traplines, my mom would worry, my dad would laugh. i liked pretending i was a mountain man, still do, the kid in me has never quit coming out. some day it may payoff.[;)][:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by tomahawk
ihad 1 brick and 1 box and shot up the box 50 rounds. sealed up with candle wax and wd 40 sprayed on the outer cardboard of the brick. the box i fired was sealed the same way and looked like i had put them there yesterday. the rifle was a bit spotty and gunky but cleaned right off. i cleaned it, resprayed it, put it in a new tube, sealed it and squished all the air out the valve stem and reburied. it'll be alright, no water can get to it unless it floods like in noahs day, and its in a place i found as a kid. my spot[;)][:D]
I'm gonna need a map, I doubt I'll ever find it without one.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
I vacuum sealed a gun and ammo hid it in my septic tank. Nobody will ever think of looking in there.
they will now dummy! [:0]0 -
Forgot. My friend Lee sold his business, Rust Guard It, to Remington a few years back. Remington changed the name a little and still sells it. 0 -
Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough but I always thought a metal ammo can with a bag of dissecant in it was good enough for the ammo.(Maybe even a pistol) 0 -
quote:Originally posted by uncle milo
??? vacume sealing ammo ?? would make a large pressure difference between the continer and the inside of the ammo would that not over time remove all the air from the inside of the shell case? would this not affect the preformance of the ammo??
I was thinking about this also.
I guess if you left it open to the air it would seep back in after a while.0
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