Six Rice Rockets Sent To Crusher ,,, video too!
"I learned my lessons!" LOL
I love Kalifornia in the summer![:D]
Six Impounded Street Racing Cars Crushed
morning. The cars were impounded during illegal street races in San Bernardino County. Some of the registered owners were actually there to see their cars reduced to scrap.
It can take a lot of time and a lot of money invested into building these street racers -- but they can be legally destroyed in just a few seconds[}:)].
Proof of that statement was on display in Rialto Wednesday morning, where several impounded cars were crushed and stacked atop each other.
Enforcement efforts against both organized and impromptu street racing is having some success inland. Racing often leads to death or injury. At a Rialto dismantling yard, something positive is being done about it.
Cpl. Jeff Higbee, Ontario Police Dept.: "We had 13 people killed in street racing collisions in the last three months. Of those 13 people that were killed, only two of them were actually driving the race cars. The other 11 people were either passengers, pedestrians, or innocent motorists in other cars."
Six vehicles in total were destroyed. They were impounded by a street racing enforcement team, fronted by Ontario police and supported by a number of area agencies.[:D]
Cpl. Jeff Higbee: "All of the cars have either illegal transmission, or an illegal engine in them. We went through the criminal process on the cases that we could. All of the cars have been through a civil process, for having numbers removed or stolen parts in them. And they've been ordered to be crushed."
Twenty-year-old Charles Hoang of Cupertino was cited for street racing. He was on hand to see his car crushed.
Charles Hoang, street racer: "I learned my lesson. But, I may end up opening a car shop doing this. I'll never stop any kind of racing stuff -- I'll take it to the track. No more streets. I learned my lesson on the streets. You don't want to race with all those tickets on the streets."
Officials say there are some legal drag strips open to the motorist who want to test their cars against other cars, and they suggest that they use them. In the long run, it would be far safer far less expensive.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5401920
I love Kalifornia in the summer![:D]
Six Impounded Street Racing Cars Crushed
morning. The cars were impounded during illegal street races in San Bernardino County. Some of the registered owners were actually there to see their cars reduced to scrap.
It can take a lot of time and a lot of money invested into building these street racers -- but they can be legally destroyed in just a few seconds[}:)].
Proof of that statement was on display in Rialto Wednesday morning, where several impounded cars were crushed and stacked atop each other.
Enforcement efforts against both organized and impromptu street racing is having some success inland. Racing often leads to death or injury. At a Rialto dismantling yard, something positive is being done about it.
Cpl. Jeff Higbee, Ontario Police Dept.: "We had 13 people killed in street racing collisions in the last three months. Of those 13 people that were killed, only two of them were actually driving the race cars. The other 11 people were either passengers, pedestrians, or innocent motorists in other cars."
Six vehicles in total were destroyed. They were impounded by a street racing enforcement team, fronted by Ontario police and supported by a number of area agencies.[:D]
Cpl. Jeff Higbee: "All of the cars have either illegal transmission, or an illegal engine in them. We went through the criminal process on the cases that we could. All of the cars have been through a civil process, for having numbers removed or stolen parts in them. And they've been ordered to be crushed."
Twenty-year-old Charles Hoang of Cupertino was cited for street racing. He was on hand to see his car crushed.
Charles Hoang, street racer: "I learned my lesson. But, I may end up opening a car shop doing this. I'll never stop any kind of racing stuff -- I'll take it to the track. No more streets. I learned my lesson on the streets. You don't want to race with all those tickets on the streets."
Officials say there are some legal drag strips open to the motorist who want to test their cars against other cars, and they suggest that they use them. In the long run, it would be far safer far less expensive.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5401920
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They will never stop people from racing on the street, there are too many people that are "competitive" when they drive. If they did want to reduce the numbers of people who race on the street, maybe they should stop shutting down all of the drag strips. 0 -
Good riddance, IMHO,........too bad they didn't put the drivers in the cars when they were crushed! 0 -
Should have done the drivers also.
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I say responsible citizens with guys should stop those. 0 -
I think someone is going to sue and walk away with some big money.
I worked in a fleet maintenance shop in Northern California and we sent our transmissions off to a local shop to be rebuilt (boss's idea-not mine). We'd get the transmissions back all freshly spray painted....thats what got my attention....why were they spray painting a transmission case they should clean when they rebuild it?
I had a thought that they were yanking junk yard tranny's and sending them to us as rebuilt...to test my theory I engraved a transmission with the vehicles license plate number to see if I got the same transmission back....Nope. Didn't get the transmission back that we sent them.
In a cops eyes if you sent your engine or transmission off to get rebuilt or had a shop do it...and your car ended up with a engine or transmission that doesn't belong in that car....your car gets crushed?
Racers....either muscle cars or rice burners go thru parts and shops......how would you feel if a cop crushed your Chevelle because the engine and tranny numbers don't match up due to a repair shop just throwing parts in it?
I think it's sick you condone crushing peoples property. If they could INDEED prove the parts were stolen....either RETURN to lawful owners or sell at auction.
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if destroying their car wont stop them, they are obsessed with lawlessness and we as good citizens must continue to pressure them some way to bend their knee to the law and to common sense. more fines, destroy their credit, and auction off their house and contents. thats a start.[^]
oh, and prison too. afterall, its murder by car.
and theyre crushing cars for serial numbers being sanded off. just like they melt guns for the same.[;)]
oh, and have you ever noticed the HUGE INCREASE in firearm parts being sold on fleebay inthe last few years? its a perfect way to sell off stolen guns except for the frame. piece by piece. there are just as many chop shops for guns as there are for cars.0 -
I have no sympathy for street racing or street racers, but I am surprised that any of you would rejoice in the destruction of these cars. If it were GUNS being destroyed, you would be outraged.
Both cars and guns are morally neutral objects. Either can be used for good or for evil. Crushing a gun or a car because it was mis-used by its owner is blaming a thing for what a person did.0 -
if the parts are recycled back into the industry, no loss is suffered. something is needed to deter the crime.
personally, if my friend left a gun out and it hurt or killed someone, if i could, I'D personally flame the coals for it to be burned. there are some guns that do need to be melted. im sorry, but i cant own a gun that i knew killed my best friend. and i cant justify owning a gun that continually ends up broken and hurting someone.
and for you p.d types that work in the evidence lockers....HOWD YOU FEEL if the same gun kept coming back again and again for another crime only in a differently marked baggie?
same with cars and the parts. people will try to keep the legend alive thru parts, strengthening their cult ways of keeping the car and the crime alive.0 -
They pulled the engines. They just crushed the shells. 0 -
Well said Nunn. Evil artifacts may exist but guns and cars are not among them. 0 -
Rialto, CA is a city that is suffering for money, so insted of selling off these cars and making a bit of a profit they had to pay to have the cars crushed. That sounds like good finanical sense to me[}:)]
This is also the same city that would not support having a legal place to race in the city limits, it was once known as the Rialto Raceway (and I still hold the track record, 1/8 mile in 4.82 @ 142) now it is just a airport that is being closed at the end of next year to make way for more houses.0 -
Life can be a bummer,........if your life revolves around racing, move somewhere where it can be accomodated.
God,.......even here we have a couple of tracks within 30 minutes.0 -
I find this disturbing.
Even though I think ricers are stupid and street racing is very irresponsible, who do the commifornia authorities think they are to confiscate and destroy vehicles for what can at most be a "speeding and reckless driving" offense.
If it was just one idiot driving like a bat out of hell, he'd get reckless driving; just because there are two idiots doing the same they get their cars crushed?0 -
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I don't agree. Some of the guns you already own or have owned may have been used to kill someone. You probably just don't know it. I bought a gun from a friend once. He couldn't stand to look at it. His kid took it to a party and another kid picked it up, pointed it at a friend and pulled the trigger. The friend died from a shot in the face.
You gonna melt down an old Ruger Hawkeye or a Thompson machine gun because someone was killed with it in the past? Does it matter if it was used by a kid to kill another kid-does it make it better if someone used it to kill an axe-wielding idiot while protecting their family.
The gun is metal, wood, plastic etc. It's the people!0 -
quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
I find this disturbing.
Even though I think ricers are stupid and street racing is very irresponsible, who do the commifornia authorities think they are to confiscate and destroy vehicles for what can at most be a "speeding and reckless driving" offense.
If it was just one idiot driving like a bat out of hell, he'd get reckless driving; just because there are two idiots doing the same they get their cars crushed?
Haul drugs and get busted in your vehicle and see what happens to it.
Your car will be confiscated and become an undercover vehicle used by the state police, and will help them bust other drug pushers.
Street racing is illegal and very dangerous, a lot of people get killed -- usually people that are minding their own business and get hit by an out of control racer.
Crushing their cars may be the best deterrent yet.0 -
I have no sympathy for street racing or street racers, but I am surprised that any of you would rejoice in the destruction of these cars. If it were GUNS being destroyed, you would be outraged.
Both cars and guns are morally neutral objects. Either can be used for good or for evil. Crushing a gun or a car because it was mis-used by its owner is blaming a thing for what a person did.
In spirit you're right, but there is nothing else that can be done with the cars. The problem with your argument is what to do with an illegally modified car. The police force can not sell it to the public, because it would be selling an illegal product. Restoring the car to original condition--or at least to a legal condition--in order to sell it would involve a great deal of time and effort, and I'm not sure that that would be economically feasible or that the police department should be involved with such things. It should be enforcing laws, not working on tricked out Honda Civics. Crushing the cars for scrap is the only thing that makes sense.0 -
This is wrong. We are one step closer to facism every day (well, Cali is already there).
What's next? 20 over the limit you're car is sold for charity? 30, it goes to the crusher too?
Nope, this sounds like a pet project of a far-left liberal F'n azzcan.
Most of the people that are street racing are good people that neither drink nor do drugs and otherwise are not involved in crime. The gov't regulators (especially in Cali) have made it almost impossible to open a track, so few exist. I live in the DC metro area and there is one 1/4 mile track opened to the public that I know of and it is a 2 hour drive for me.
This is gov't control at its worst, no one on this board should be happy about this.0 -
Hello "mlincoln"[:)]
I must congratulate you for a most reasonable and well thought out response.
Best Regards[:D]
Remember God sometimes gives us a second chance -- I am LIVING proof.
Steve Adams
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quote:'Cpl. Jeff Higbee, Ontario Police Dept.: "We had 13 people killed in street racing collisions in the last three months. Of those 13 people that were killed, only two of them were actually driving the race cars. The other 11 people were either passengers, pedestrians, or innocent motorists in other cars."
Now if these deaths were caused by guns how long before there was a kneejerk reaction and a call for bans.
After all to paraphrase some of the BS that led to the assault weapon ban.
"Nobody needs a 200mph car to go to the supermarket"
"The only place for these is on the racetrack"
It'll never happen, because votes come well before public safety.0 -
Not one illegal immigrant with no drivers license or insurance or registration.....has ever had his vehicle crushed.
They have killed more people than guns and street racers combined...FACT.0 -
Some of you guys are pretty tight-assed! I don't like ricers either, but when I was those kids age, I had a Charger that would run FAST and I kept my foot in it all the time. Spent ALL of the little money I made trying to make it go faster. Did I ever drag race on the street? I better not say. [8D] Kids will be kids. Always have. Doesn't matter whether it was racing horses before the car came about, or firing up gramps Model T, or dads Oldsmobile. 0 -
I was one of those, in EXACTLY that area, back in the late 70s and early 80's...
180A:(is that for the Airplane?) Most of the Street Drags fun that I participated and spectated in was just that, fun...most of those who were on scene knew about drag racing and the dangers that come with that. But, a few would be spectating on the curb (or in the actual street surface) at the far end of the races - you know, where the cars are at or above rev limit, and going as fast as they can, maybe on the edge of control - the lighting was OK for night illumination of a business parks empty streets, but nowhere good enough for 130-200+ MPH blasts...The folks who were hurt at the drags I was at were mostly drivers who went out of control and hit something, or wrecked/rolled/blew up. Sometimes, though, a car would go into spectators at the fast end of the races - then it was bloody/nasty. Never happened while I was there, but I have taken a few drivers to the hospital. Neither the drivers, nor the spectators were "Minding their own business" - they were participants...Spectators fuel the drag events nearly as much as the need to compete drives the actual racers. The need for an audience and the taunting/support of the fans gets many into the drags.
For Nunn and others: The cars are NOT morally Neutral, unless you view them as Objets D'Arte, because there is no technical inspection of the vehicles running at the street drags - many sub-nine second cars were there, with NO ROLLCAGE, NO FLYWHEEL SCATTERSHIELD, NO FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, NO BLOWER SCATTERSHIELDS, Drivers with NO HELMETS, NO FIRESUITS, and many did Blow up, catch fire, drop hot rotating parts off mid-run, and so on. Many were loose conglomerations of the best parts someOne could steal or buy, bolted together with no idea about engineering - there were transmission casings and blower housings, gear parts, rear ends, u-joints, etc., blown apart every Sunday night. Those cars were as dangerous to the drivers as they were to the spectators - Grenades with random-length fuses. The city that confiscated the vehicles would possibly be liable for subsequent injuries/damages if they were sold intact, or in parts.
Often the dummies would start the next run without anyone checking the street for oil or fuel left on it from the last disaster, almost no one policed up the broken parts that were just off the roadway till next Sunday afternoon. Every Monday Morning the city would have to tow away abandoned cars that had hit the ditch and rolled, cars that were blown up and abandoned, 'cause they were stolen chassis, cars that the driver was in the Hospital, etc. The Taxpayers were on the hook for broken lightpoles, broken Hydrants often after racenight. The Police had to try to break up the races and schedule extra officers on Sunday nights - the area they use in in an Industrial Park that is beneath Ontario Airport Approach, so helicopters are not feasable.
Street drags is an evocative phrase in our popular culture, brings up images of teens and young twenties racing grudge matches against each other, no harm-no foul... But that is not what is it nowadays...
Cars running now have often gone way over 150 MPH, and there are cars out there that have $30k all the way up to over $100k in them, complete with Nitrous/propane, some running on exotic fuels like Nitromethane/alcohol, or Nitromethane with additive toluene/acetone/xylene. They often arrive in special trailers, complete with pitcrew and lights and generators, etc. Many races are for Pinkslips, and this generates real anger and fights when Alcohol/drugs + Bravado + Boasting is put on the line and one of them thinks the other has "Cheated" (with no real rules, how...?). LOTS of the spectators were drunk/drugged, some of them drivers...
The older I got, and the more I saw of the scene there just outside of Ontario, the less I liked participating...when I took one final poor guy and his girlfriend (both were in the car)from a wreck to a hospital, I quit going.
As far as going to a raceway, the kids of the citynight are not going to be allowed to participate if their cars don't meet basic safety requirements, if they are denied their cars running poorly contained toxic/explosive/exotic fuels, if they are required to install an expensive rollcage or forced to wear a $300 helmet and $500 worth of Nomex, if they have to identify themselves and show insurance that is applicable, sign waivers, if they are not allowed to show up drunk and drive or spectate from three feet away, and the hometown boys are not allowed to slug it out on the hometown streets and in the streets after the race. Part of the spice of the events is the forbiddeness of it all. They also revel in their "lack of formal organization", though the conventions of the events are such that they actually ARE organized.
Anyway, to wend my conversational way back to parts of the original post, I know that I would not have participated if the Police were going to confiscate my vehicle, then destroy it. I was still making payments on mine!! That policy would have deterred me.0 -
If they took it away and then sold it for parts to the highest bidder, with the stolen parts or their proceeds going back to the owner or insurance company, it would likely have the same effect.
Or sell them to the junkyards for the highest bidder.
The department I worked for sold the guns that were seized at public auction for years. Many time we would see the guy we seized it from pay way more than it was worth to get "grampas old 30-30" back. Now the guns are sold in larger lots to FFL dealers only, once a year, to highest bidder for the particular lot. Don't make nearly as much but the higher ups feel it is more prudent, but the taxpayers have to make up the difference. I prefer the old way. There were a few nice guns there but most sold for more than I would pay.0 -
I suspect that the cars were "illegal" due to modifications that violated the CA emission laws. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
Good riddance, IMHO,........too bad they didn't put the drivers in the cars when they were crushed!
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Harsh treatment for a little illegal fun. The drivers preforming an illegal act, however, could be doing acts that are a lot worse like selling dope to school children. Why don't law enforcement put a little effort in to catching dopers. 0 -
Handload, you brought back a ton of memories. Thanks. 0
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