Machinegun madness!
I drove over to Oklahoma today (by way of Missouri) at the invite of iamaclone_2 for the semi-annual machinegun shoot. It was a four hour drive for me but I have never even so much as touched a machinegun and I figured I should do it at least once in my life.
The drive was OK except the last leg was down about 5 miles of dirt road. Well normally it's dirt but it rained all morning so it was deep mud. I was really worried that I would get stuck with my little truck with its 2-wheel drive and highway gears but it made it fine. What a mess though! See the photo which really doesn't do justice to the 500 pounds of mud caked on the truck.
There were hundreds of shooters with maybe thousands of guns. I was surprised at how many Browning .30s were in attendance. I didn't realize so many people had these. There were almost as many .50 BMGs on hand. Many were available for rent and the cost was dirt cheap. I saw one guy offering a 20 round belt through his Ma Duece for $40. At $2 per round I think he was losing money, no?
There were two Mini-Guns there and when they fired up it was an intense thing to hear. You can't discern the individual reports because it shoots so fast. It sounds like fabric ripping. very loudly.
Not too many classic subguns. A number of Thompsons, but I only saw one MP40, one M3 "Greasegun" and one STEN and I would have figured to see more of these types of guns.
iamaclone_2 and his charming wife were gracious and generous hosts allowing me to shoot a couple of their guns. I started with the 5.56 FNC. Now I admit to loads of ignorance on MGs so I think this is made by FN of Belgium and it's sort of in the M16 class? I also tried a Ruger (is this called the AC556?) in stainless with a folding stock. The barrel seemed short, too.
I shot a pair of subguns in 45 ACP. One was some kind of MAC and the other I didn't recognize at all but it really ripped. iamaclone_2 said it had a cycle rate of 1,100 RPM and I believe it. It goes zip and a 30 round magazine is gone. I probably shot up about $100 in ammo.
It was great meeting iamaclone_2 and his lovely wife. I also had great fun with the machine guns. I don't think I want to own one, though. They are so pricey and it's a lot of work to feed and maintain them. I saw a lot of the tripod-mounted guns breaking down and needing service. I think owning a machine gun is like owning an Italian sports car. It looks great, and is very impressive when running well, but it requires a lot of time and effort to keep it going. But I did enjoy the experience of shooting them once.
Here I am firing a subgun. Yes, I'm a big fat guy and yes I always brightly colored shirts to the range. When guns are going off I want everyone to know exactly where I am at a glance. You can tell that I am very refined by my grip on the gun. Pinkies up! Pinkies up!

iamaclone_2 maybe shooting the same gun. I saw a lot of guys wearing handguns but that seemed unnecessary with all the high-powered hardware laying about.

Mrs. iamaclone_2 shooting the Ruger.

I thought this was cute. This girl was maybe 10 years old and she was shooting a full-auto Ruger with a 22 kit.

Here is one of the old cars used for targets. Resale is for crap at this point. I especially liked it when the tire caught fire.

Oh, here's a shot of the truck after its romp in the mud. The picture doesn't capture how much crud was caked on the body and wheel-wells.

The drive was OK except the last leg was down about 5 miles of dirt road. Well normally it's dirt but it rained all morning so it was deep mud. I was really worried that I would get stuck with my little truck with its 2-wheel drive and highway gears but it made it fine. What a mess though! See the photo which really doesn't do justice to the 500 pounds of mud caked on the truck.
There were hundreds of shooters with maybe thousands of guns. I was surprised at how many Browning .30s were in attendance. I didn't realize so many people had these. There were almost as many .50 BMGs on hand. Many were available for rent and the cost was dirt cheap. I saw one guy offering a 20 round belt through his Ma Duece for $40. At $2 per round I think he was losing money, no?
There were two Mini-Guns there and when they fired up it was an intense thing to hear. You can't discern the individual reports because it shoots so fast. It sounds like fabric ripping. very loudly.
Not too many classic subguns. A number of Thompsons, but I only saw one MP40, one M3 "Greasegun" and one STEN and I would have figured to see more of these types of guns.
iamaclone_2 and his charming wife were gracious and generous hosts allowing me to shoot a couple of their guns. I started with the 5.56 FNC. Now I admit to loads of ignorance on MGs so I think this is made by FN of Belgium and it's sort of in the M16 class? I also tried a Ruger (is this called the AC556?) in stainless with a folding stock. The barrel seemed short, too.
I shot a pair of subguns in 45 ACP. One was some kind of MAC and the other I didn't recognize at all but it really ripped. iamaclone_2 said it had a cycle rate of 1,100 RPM and I believe it. It goes zip and a 30 round magazine is gone. I probably shot up about $100 in ammo.
It was great meeting iamaclone_2 and his lovely wife. I also had great fun with the machine guns. I don't think I want to own one, though. They are so pricey and it's a lot of work to feed and maintain them. I saw a lot of the tripod-mounted guns breaking down and needing service. I think owning a machine gun is like owning an Italian sports car. It looks great, and is very impressive when running well, but it requires a lot of time and effort to keep it going. But I did enjoy the experience of shooting them once.
Here I am firing a subgun. Yes, I'm a big fat guy and yes I always brightly colored shirts to the range. When guns are going off I want everyone to know exactly where I am at a glance. You can tell that I am very refined by my grip on the gun. Pinkies up! Pinkies up!

iamaclone_2 maybe shooting the same gun. I saw a lot of guys wearing handguns but that seemed unnecessary with all the high-powered hardware laying about.

Mrs. iamaclone_2 shooting the Ruger.

I thought this was cute. This girl was maybe 10 years old and she was shooting a full-auto Ruger with a 22 kit.

Here is one of the old cars used for targets. Resale is for crap at this point. I especially liked it when the tire caught fire.

Oh, here's a shot of the truck after its romp in the mud. The picture doesn't capture how much crud was caked on the body and wheel-wells.

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All you did was tease us.......WE NEED MORE PICTURES !
Wish I was there with you.
I am going camping the second week of July with some pretty sick fellows and a lot of fire power. I will have some pics and maybe even a few seconds of movie.0 -
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Looks like you had a great time. Wish I was there.
Looks like that 10 yr old was shooting a KAC556 with a .22 conversion unit installed. Now thats some inexpensive full auto shooting.0 -
You're right, it's a Mini 14. I had Ruger in my head from seeing it and when I typed the 10/22 came out even though I knew better. 0 -
Neat!! I have a place, 70 or so mi. away that rents them also. Keep
meaning to make it over there, as I've never shot a full auto either.
Nice to meet up with forum members, isn't it? I've made several good
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Heck, I get more mud than that on my 3mi. of gravel road I have to
travel, when leaving, or coming home. If I hit the creek hard enough
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Either way....... a fun time was had by all, Iam sure.
Back in the mid 90's when my team and I shot the SOF 3-gun in Vegas there was a guy who would show up with a 5 ton military truck loaded with machineguns.
He rented them out to shooters. He had just about every MG I have ever seen... GE mini, Browning 50 cal, 1919A4, M-60, BAR's, Sten gun, M-2 Carbine, Bren gun, Uzi, and a bunch of others.
It was fun to stand behind someone squeezing of a 100 rd belt from the GE minigun. It lasted about 1 sec.0 -
SP, I'm not going to sit here and listen to you beat up on yourself. You're a handsome man.
I too am of large build, and I always think of myself as built for comfort, not for speed. And really, when the ladies need something heavy moved, do they ever go looking for a skinny guy?
Now as far as shooting that subgun looking like an Englishman drinking a cup of tea, that's another matter.0 -
Now thats fun! Glad you had a good time. We have the same type of shoot out in the Black Rock desert that has been named "Shooting Man" "Ma duce's" S.A.W.'s (M249) M1919A4's and well over a a truck load of ammo. Two days of non stop shooting and camping.
The second night ends with a Ma duce, 500 rounds of tracers, 3lbs of tannerite strapped to an old LP tank placed out on the safe zone on the Playa at 800 yards. Glad you had fun ! do it more often!!!!!![:)]0 -
Here are some additional photos. One of the many .30 cal Brownings on hand. Got links? 
Speaking of links. and brass. (That pile grew much larger as the day went on.)
One of the numerous M2s ready to go to work.
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Thanks for wearing the brightly colored shirt! 0 -
[:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:D] ok now I know you had fun!!!!!! 
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I'm jealous.
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quote:Originally posted by FrancF
[:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:D] ok now I know you had fun!!!!!!

I'd say so! Ya gotta love the Big Browning....[:D][:D][:D]0 -
...Well, not sure why you had to wear a bright azz shirt to be seen...[:D]
...Bet everyone had one helluva time! AND, all got along well I'm sure! Ya'll could have been just a few hrs. North of me, but only being a peon and not a mucky muck, I can understand why I was not invited...[;)]
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Sorry to take so long to reply.
Had a great time, as always.
And the pleausre to have Saxonpig in attendance..was ours.[:)]
Always glad to put names with the faces, know what I mean.
Frank was great, but he missed the night shoot with the tracers.
Almost was tempted to kidnap him, to stay longer.
But he is alot bigger than me, had to let him go...Dang it.
Got stuff all over Doris's kitchen, being cleaned, sorta..[;)]
Hopefully, will have the cleaning finnished before the week is over.
If Doris does not choke me to death, for cleaning toys on her kitchen island counterspace.
Well back to the cleaning, ain't gett'n no younger, and they aint self cleaning.
Walte - Smelling like a bottle of Hoppes0
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