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USPS "statement by shipper of firearm"

Henry0Reilly
Every time I go to mail a long gun the local PO makes me sign a statement by shipper of firearms. It can be found here:

http://www.usps.com/forms/_pdf/ps1508.pdf

(pdf files always freeze my pc for a little bit)

The form clearly states "This form can only be used by manufacturers or dealers of firearms" but the PO clerk keeps making me fill it out even though I'm not a dealer and have told him so.

After awhile he started making me print out my own form at home rather that giving me one.

He has also taken to making me write what the firearm is on the form - I don't care all that much but he really shouldn't ask for more information than the form requires.

I suppose I should be happy that they accept them with no more hassle than this. The very first time it took more than 30 minutes for them to find the regulations.

Still, it bothers me that I am signing what is really a "false" statement.
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  • shoff14
    When I shipped one of my rifles out of Lafayette, I didn't have so sign any such form. I had been in a few days earlier and asked a couple of questions and it so happened that the same clerk waited on me and remembered me. He just asked if it was non operational and went about shipping it.
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  • watrulookinat
    I don't blame you, sounds like a royal pain in the axx just to ship out a firearm now days. I see your not using UPS anymore.
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  • Henry0Reilly
    quote:Originally posted by watrulookinat
    I don't blame you, sounds like a royal pain in the axx just to ship out a firearm now days. I see your not using UPS anymore.


    I never did use UPS for long guns. I would have to drive 35 miles to get to a FedEx that would accept handguns, hence UPS for them.
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  • Ronald J. Snow
    HenryOReilly: Your Postmaster really needs an education. The form he is having you complete is one used by dealers for the mailing of handguns. No such form is required by dealers or private individuals for the shipment of long guns. If he doesn't know the law then have him contact the BATF&E so they can instruct him as the Postmaster is not allowed to advise you what is legal or illegal regarding the shipment of firearms. The only time my Postmaster asks what is in the box is when I insure the item. RJSnow
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  • Henry0Reilly
    quote:Originally posted by Ronald J. Snow
    HenryOReilly: Your Postmaster really needs an education. The form he is having you complete is one used by dealers for the mailing of handguns. No such form is required by dealers or private individuals for the shipment of long guns. If he doesn't know the law then have him contact the BATF&E so they can instruct him as the Postmaster is not allowed to advise you what is legal or illegal regarding the shipment of firearms. The only time my Postmaster asks what is in the box is when I insure the item. RJSnow


    I looked it up - they can make me certify by written statement that the gun is not loaded - if the local guy wants me to use the wrong form then I'm not going to make a fuss about it. They could make me open the package every time.

    quote:d. Unloaded rifles and shotguns may be mailed if the mailer fully complies with the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618) and 18 U.S.C. 921. The mailer may be required to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not excluded from mailing because of the restrictions in 431.2b and c.
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  • EOD Guy
    Do you realize that every time you sign that form you are perjuring yourself?
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  • Henry0Reilly
    quote:Originally posted by EOD Guy
    Do you realize that every time you sign that form you are perjuring yourself?


    Yes and no - I always write on it that I'm not a dealer.
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  • oldgunner
    No earthly reason you should have to do any of that. You have another clerk who hates guns and wants to make it as miserable as possible for you. He would refuse to ship for you if he could get away with it.

    Then again..Maybe he's just stupid.

    As you said, they CAN require a statement that the gun isn't loaded. Thay's the only thing you shyould have to sign, and they aren't even required to do that.
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