Largest size shotshell an Y no bigger 1's?
With the advent of "light recoiling" semi auto's why hasn't anyone made a new larger bore shotgun shell / gun combo? I know that most bird hunting is limited to 10ga max but are there any laws outlawing owning / manufacturing even larger bore shotguns / shells?
I thinking a Blunderbuss size shotgun shell might be fun.
I thinking a Blunderbuss size shotgun shell might be fun.
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you could do a 8 Gauge simi auto, but it would weigh to much to be praticle, imagine swinging on a high flying goose with a 14 lb shotgun. Dosent sound like fun to me.
I can see building one for the fun of doing it, but it wouldn't sell.
I am always amazed by the people that think that you NEED a big gauge gun. I don't mind it as I sell a ton of them, but it still amazes me. I am always getting guys into the shop that want a 3 1/2" 12 gauge, so I'll ask them what they hunt. They'll reply "were going dove hunting and then for quail and chucker later on". So I'll ask if there going after goose and they'll say "no, I don't have enough gun for goose, I would have to buy a 10 gauge for that..... Do you have any 10 gauges?"
These guys have no problem spending $1500 for a new Benelli Super Black Eagle II, but they wouldn't even look at the Benelli Montefeltro in 20 gauge that would fit their needs better, after all a 20 gauge is a womans gun. Just amazing.0 -
And to think, I shoot a 28 gauge, I must be just a kid![^] 0 -
Y'all ever see the story about the "12Ga.FROM HELL"? [}:)]
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I know that most bird hunting is limited to 10ga max but are there any laws outlawing owning / manufacturing even larger bore shotguns / shells?
The only real advantage of a larger gun is a larger shot pattern and one has to consider where is the point of no return. There is a misconception that the larger the gun the more powerfull it is. Not true. In reality the larger the gun the more effective it is because of the larger pattern which increases the odds of a hit. Generally the reason thatpeople are more successful with a 10 ga than a 12 is it compensates for poor shooting at extended ranges. The purpose of the old 4 and 8 ga guns was for market hunting. You basically flock shot to drop as many as possible. Really if you are not a good enough shot to hit something with the 12 ga a ten or 8 will not help much.
What manufacturer is going to bother making shells? If you can't hunt with it there would be little demand. I wouldn't doubt that even if an 8 ga were produced shells would be $100 or more a box. Even for a manufacturer to make components I would suspect you would pay through the nose. Many rare brass cases ar several dollars each.0 -
HeDog, I have been a 20 gauge shooter my whole life but I have been thinking about picking up a 28ga. I have fallen in love with a Rizzini Aurum Light that I have at my shop, it only weighs 5 lbs and the fit and finish is..... well, it's a Rizzini, I really don't have to say more.
As I say at the shop, real shooters go smaller, lead throwers go bigger.
http://www.rizziniusa.com/shotguns.htm0 -
quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
Y'all ever see the story about the "12Ga.FROM HELL"? [}:)]
Jeff
Saw it..? I used to own it!![;)]0 -
28 ga is the way to go. Been shooting one for several years. I have a couple of 525 Brownings in 28 ga and love them. You can shoot it all day and carry it all day.
And Walmart carries 28! I reload so after buying the hulls they cost only $2.65 a box to reload.0 -
I was also thinking Slugs for such a large gun would be bigger & wider too. 0 -
good point, it would be too difficult to swing on a bird with a 14 lb. shotgun.
as far as getting a 3-1/2" 12 ga, you get more of a shot charge for dove; also consider, when you go hunting duck and have to use steel shot because you're not allowed to use lead on waterfowl, the steel is lighter so you need bigger size (like #4) therefore, your shot pattern gets too skimpy. need 3 or 3-1/2" for a larger shot charge.0 -
quote:I know that most bird hunting is limited to 10ga max but are there any laws outlawing owning / manufacturing even larger bore shotguns / shells?
yes there is, now don't quote me on this i'm going on memory from the history channels "history of the gun"
they said it was 6 or 8 gauge max legal bore in the USA while showing some chaps in Brittan shooting a 4 gauge, and a 2 gauge, the shells looked as big as a soda can0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
you could do a 8 Gauge simi auto, but it would weigh to much to be praticle, imagine swinging on a high flying goose with a 14 lb shotgun. Dosent sound like fun to me.
I can see building one for the fun of doing it, but it wouldn't sell.
I am always amazed by the people that think that you NEED a big gauge gun. I don't mind it as I sell a ton of them, but it still amazes me. I am always getting guys into the shop that want a 3 1/2" 12 gauge, so I'll ask them what they hunt. They'll reply "were going dove hunting and then for quail and chucker later on". So I'll ask if there going after goose and they'll say "no, I don't have enough gun for goose, I would have to buy a 10 gauge for that..... Do you have any 10 gauges?"
These guys have no problem spending $1500 for a new Benelli Super Black Eagle II, but they wouldn't even look at the Benelli Montefeltro in 20 gauge that would fit their needs better, after all a 20 gauge is a womans gun. Just amazing.
a 3 1/2 12 gauge would destroy the a dove and chance of eating or mounting.
1 have a 12 because its versitile and parts/accessories are easy to find mainly accessories. stocks barrels and such. not because i am a bad shot.0 -
All us duck hunters are just about required to use a 12 ga in 3-1/2" due to the steel shot. If you use anything less you can't shoot unless they are in the boat with you or you want to wound them. 0 -
8, 4, 2, punt.
all mass fowlers.
mass shooting went out of vogue 1900 +/- circa.0 -
quote:Originally posted by RUGERGUNZ
All us duck hunters are just about required to use a 12 ga in 3-1/2" due to the steel shot. If you use anything less you can't shoot unless they are in the boat with you or you want to wound them.
I used 2 3/4" when I would duck hunt in Oregon. Did the job for me always. I used my Mossberg ultra mag and would only load 3 1/2" when we were going to jump geese. After I did that the first time I just notched it down to 3" for geese since it did the job just fine.
Most fun I've ever had was ambushing waterfowl in Oregon probally. [:D]0 -
I went from 12ga for dove and quail as well as turkey to 20ga a few years ago...never regretted it. I can shoot all day without any problems at all and have never had a problem not killing my game immediately.
Have also swapped over to a youth model 870 combo kit with 20" VR with Remchoke as well as a Full Rifled 21" slug barrel that a young man wanted to get rid of to buy himself a new 12ga semi. I keep it sitting in the house with slugs in it for defense. A few guys laughed when I mentioned that and said it wouldnt stop anyone...until I dropped the slug on the counter at work next to one of their 9mm rounds. Asked them which they would rather get shot with...never heard another word out of them. [:D]0 -
20ga, 12ga, 8ga, 4ga 
12ga From Hell is on the right, next to the 700 Nitro Express (that's a 500 S&W in the front row0
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