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  • gagirl
    Years ago when I was on the job, I carried a .38 special revolver, no bullet proof vests, and wood night stick. No SWAT team , just a bunch of guys called the TAC squad with Ithaca riot guns. When did the SWAT teams turn into an Army infantry squad. This group look like they are returning from patrol in Afghanistan. Call me na?ve, but is all this gear and uniforms necessary?

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  • gagirl
    This evening I was involved in a minor car accident. I was carrying a handgun, and consistent with SC concealed weapon permit law, I notified the state trooper that I was carrying a concealed weapon (a Kel-Tek P32). He took the gun from me but required my assistance in unloading it.

    I got the impression that he was overreacting to the fact that I had a gun, so I commented that it's not the people with permits that he should be worried about. He replied that guns made him nervous.

    He returned the gun to me after he processed the paperwork from the accident. I don't know what SC standard procedure is, but it seemed to me that he just didn't like the idea that citizens could be armed.

    What are other people's experiences with being stopped while carrying concealed? For law enforcement officers, does your agency have a specific policy for dealing with this, or do you have some discretion in the matter? How would you have handled this situation (assuming the person you pulled over is a stranger)?

    "Strength is the outcome of need; security sets a premium on feebleness." -- H.G. Wells (The Time Machine)
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  • gagirl
    or anyone else that may know.... why is the bay that the police cars pulls into called a "sally port"?
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  • gagirl
    When you pull over a vehicle for speeding and discover they have a radar detector, does that influence you in any way?

    At first blush it would seem to, but hey, you just caught them speeding, right?
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  • gagirl
    First let me preface that I am sure the rules vary from department to department so probably not a hard set answer.

    Background: Off duty Cincinnati Police Office used taser on 11 year old shoplifting from grocery store.

    https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/police-officer-used-taser-on-11-year-old-girl-accused-of-stealing-from-kroger

    According to the stories, she was arrested and charged with theft and obstructing official business.

    The second charge is myl question. What Obstruction of Official Business would she be guilty of?

    The LEO was off duty and working a side job if I read the stories correctly. Do LEOs get to perform part time security duties in city/county uniform in many places which would then warrant the obstruction charge?

    She was wrong for stealing, just not sure it rose to the level of taser deployment.
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  • gagirl
    I was driving home last night, merging onto a highway, and in front of me are two cars. As the one car tries to pass the other (it's a two lane ramp) the getting-passed car swerves over and cuts the car off. The car then tries to pass again and the same thing happens. The car finally tries to pass again and makes it. I figure the guy swerving is drunk or whatever and I don't want to be near him when he wrecks, so I try to pass him (he's doing 25 on a ramp that normally goes 45). As I pass him he swerves and cuts ME off.I'm quite upset. This guy is a mainiac. I follow him for a few miles and at a stop light I walk up to his window and tell him he's acting like an idiot and is going to kill somebody. He's all nervous and apologetic, but his passenger--as I walk away--calls me a few choice words. I say something back and keep heading back to my car and the passenger hops out and starts challenging me to duke it out.Now, I was pissed but at the same time I know if we start throwing punches in the middle of the road the cops are going to show up and I'm going to get arrested. I've got a concealed carry permit application in the pipeline, and I imagine such an arrest would really foul that up. Am I correct in this? What is the police-approved method for dealing with this kind of a situation?
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  • gagirl
    Ok, well I'm looking at maybe starting a career in the law enforcement community. This means I'll have to go through BLET, which the local community college offers. My question is, since one has to be 21 years of age to be a LEO, do I need to wait till I'm 21 to take the classes? If I start next school year and it takes me 2 years to go through the classes, I'll be 21 a month after I finish the classes. Planning on asking somebody at the school tomorrow, but wanted to see what y'all say. Thanks, Colton.
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  • gagirl
    Ok, this is hypothetical and I think there was a story on it a few weeks back that may have been posted on here(I can't find it now though)

    A guy meets a girl and gives her a ride on his bike. While they're riding down the highway, she falls off the bike(DUE TO NO FAULT OF THE DRIVER OF THE BIKE), gets hit by a car and dies. The motorcycle rider turns around and goes back to her, sees that she is dead, and takes off on his bike.

    How would this be illegal? He didnt make her fall off the bike and he didn't really know her.

    Don't read into the question and imply that he did something. I UNDERSTAND that the police would want him for questioning or what not, but could he be charged AND convicted of anything.

    The consensus here is, he could be charged with leaving the scene of an accident. I'm not sure I agree with that though. She just fell off without him doing anything wrong.

    Would it be the same if someone jumped/fell out of your AUTOMOBILE?
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  • Alpine
    Here is the link:

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/sally port

    Because that is what it is!
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  • gagirl
    Dano I dont care about pc... just have been wondering.
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  • gagirl
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Here is the link:

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/sally port

    Because that is what it is!


    wondering where the name came from though.
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  • gagirl
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    Dano I dont care about pc... just have been wondering.



    How do I know for sure, that you are over 18 yrs. of age? [;)]


    umm look at my profile pic... and seach my thread just turned 35....[:D]
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    Dano I dont care about pc... just have been wondering.



    How do I know for sure, that you are over 18 yrs. of age? [;)]


    umm look at my profile pic... and seach my thread just turned 35....[:D]



    35 years young, that is[;)][:)]
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  • gagirl
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    Dano I dont care about pc... just have been wondering.



    How do I know for sure, that you are over 18 yrs. of age? [;)]


    umm look at my profile pic... and seach my thread just turned 35....[:D]



    35 years young, that is[;)][:)]


    I knew there was a reason that I adored you Eric!
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  • fastcarsgofast
    In days of old it was the entrance to a castle or fort.
    I guess we just couldn't come up with a new term to use.
    And it sounds good anyway.
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  • Alpine
    Here is the link to the root of the term:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_port
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  • JamesRK
    Assuming you already know what a Sally Port is, the name is supposed to be from some French word that sounds like Sally and port meaning door.
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  • JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Here is the link to the root of the term:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_port

    Yeah, that too. [:D]
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  • David Nunn
    I thought it was a salad fork.
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  • Grunt2
    The primary modern meaning for sally port, derived from the old French saillie, from saillir to surge forward, from Latin salire to leap, and door "port", is a small controlled space with two doors. Essentially, one must enter the space and close the first door before opening the second to proceed.
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