camouflage and deer hunting
Can y'all please give me the reasoning behind wearing camo when deer hunting? I just began, and my wife is telling me it's not necessary, especially since I put a solid orange vest on over the top (which I plan to break up with black Sharpie).
I know from my military days the importance of breaking up the "unnatural" shape of your body among natural surroundings. And I know deer sense movement, regardless of camo. But if I'm still, isn't it important my body shape/colors be broken up by random camo patterns?
I know from my military days the importance of breaking up the "unnatural" shape of your body among natural surroundings. And I know deer sense movement, regardless of camo. But if I'm still, isn't it important my body shape/colors be broken up by random camo patterns?
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a plaid shirt will work too. camo just helps with slight movement[;)] 0 -
Tell your wife if you don't have the right camo all the guys will laugh at you.[:D].What ever you wear though don't use detergent to wash that clothing with. It will make you light up like a neon sign to the deer. 0 -
When rifle hunting, I think camo is completely unneccesary...I use it when bow hunting though. 0 -
I wear camo, because well I've always worn camo. I find it effective seeing as how a bird landed on my shoulder once when I was wearing my brush country jacket. After the slight heart attack I wrote Brush Country an email telling them that I find their product very effective.[:p] 0 -
This is the thing best for bow hunting. 
quote:Originally posted by ECC
When rifle hunting, I think camo is completely unneccesary...I use it when bow hunting though.0 -
Yeah, I'm talking about rifle hunting. 0 -
I have shot most of my deer at short range (under 50 yards). Why would a bowhunter need it but not a rifle/shotgun hunter? Not all rifle shots are 300 yards y'know! 0 -
I don't have enough experience, so if it were even over 100 yards, I probably wouldn't take the shot!![:0] 0 -
for break-up purposes I use it. I've had deer come within 15 feet of me on the ground and not see me. Make sure to wash them in a scent removing detergent when they get stinkin'. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by goldeneagle76
Make sure to wash them in a scent removing detergent when they get stinkin'.
Already done so as a preemptive measure.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by callktulu
I don't have enough experience, so if it were even over 100 yards, I probably wouldn't take the shot!![:0]
Then u better get to the range, and get you some practice in...U need to be completely comfortable with at least a 175-200yd shot(i think) or keep out of the woods, where you could be a problem for other hunters...MHO...
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Thanks, but the ranges near me don't have over 100 yards. I'll stick to 100 yards shots until I'm more comfortable, and won't shoot over that.
EDIT: How is my NOT taking a long shot a problem for other hunters?0 -
I had an 8 pointer walk up to my tree and start licking my climbing sticks without knowing I was there.
Camo is a necessity for bow hunting0 -
Wearing camo has nothing to do with deer hunting. People wear it because everybody else wears it and they get to look manly for a day. It doesn't hurt anything either, so feel free to make any kind of fashion statement you want to.
What will get you noticed by a deer is movement first and noise second. Deer have a highly developed sense of smell, but they don't react to smell the way a lot of people think they do. Sometimes they will smell a cigar and come over to check it out.
The big trick to deer hunting is to hunt in a place where there are deer. Learn how deer behave, act and react. Learn the kind of hunting you are doing and get good at it. If you know what you are doing you can wear blaze orange coveralls and stink to high heaven and fill your limit.
During the rut they don't pay much attention to anything except each other. [:D]
GOOD LUCK ! [:)]0 -
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I use camo clothing when hunting deer, rabbit, predator, upland, anything. For me, it's more of a mental thing knowing that my profile is broken up and I'm invisible, in terms of scent. That's for deer hunting. I don't bow hunt (yet), but none of my shots on deer have been longer than 150 yds. Last year's was from about 45 yds away.
It's not for everyone, but I like it and I use it. It works for me so I figure why change stuff?0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Wearing camo has nothing to do with deer hunting. People wear it because everybody else wears it and they get to look manly for a day. It doesn't hurt anything either, so feel free to make any kind of fashion statement you want to.
What will get you noticed by a deer is movement first and noise second. Deer have a highly developed sense of smell, but they don't react to smell the way a lot of people think they do. Sometimes they will smell a cigar and come over to check it out.
The big trick to deer hunting is to hunt in a place where there are deer. Learn how deer behave, act and react. Learn the kind of hunting you are doing and get good at it. If you know what you are doing you can wear blaze orange coveralls and stink to high heaven and fill your limit.
During the rut they don't pay much attention to anything except each other. [:D]
GOOD LUCK ! [:)]
Absolutely true!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Sturmgewehr 
Yes sir this bird here deffintly had signs of global warming dissease.!
Good work son.0 -
If you don't buy the camo and just wear regular clothes you'll have more money for guns and ammo. Just saying. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by callktulu
Thanks, but the ranges near me don't have over 100 yards. I'll stick to 100 yards shots until I'm more comfortable, and won't shoot over that.
EDIT: How is my NOT taking a long shot a problem for other hunters?
Good on you, if you're not comfortable to pull the trigger ... don't. Unfortunately, I have seen way too many shots taken way above shooter's ability.
BTW, your wife is correct, it is not required [:p].0 -
James got it right. Haved killed my share of deers wearing blue jeans and a gold LSU sweatshirt. Be still, be quiet, and shoot shoot straight.
As an aside. When gunning for ducks, I'm camo'd as much as possible. Doesn't mean commercial camo, but dark subdued colors that blend with the surroundings.0 -
quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
quote:Originally posted by callktulu
Thanks, but the ranges near me don't have over 100 yards. I'll stick to 100 yards shots until I'm more comfortable, and won't shoot over that.
EDIT: How is my NOT taking a long shot a problem for other hunters?
Good on you, if you're not comfortable to pull the trigger ... don't. Unfortunately, I have seen way too many shots taken way above shooter's ability.
Right. I wasn't saying in my original post that I wasn't an experienced shooter, I meant I wasn't an experienced hunter. They can be mutually exclusive, but hopefully not for long. [;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by callktulu
quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
quote:Originally posted by callktulu
Thanks, but the ranges near me don't have over 100 yards. I'll stick to 100 yards shots until I'm more comfortable, and won't shoot over that.
EDIT: How is my NOT taking a long shot a problem for other hunters?
Good on you, if you're not comfortable to pull the trigger ... don't. Unfortunately, I have seen way too many shots taken way above shooter's ability.
Right. I wasn't saying in my original post that I wasn't an experienced shooter, I meant I wasn't an experienced hunter. They can be mutually exclusive, but hopefully not for long. [;)]
I'm sure it will not take you long. Good luck and happy safe hunting.0 -
Indeed, thanks! Can't wait to go again!! SOON!!!
And by the way, to placate my my loving wife, I took an over sized Sharpie today and made my own camo pattern onto my orange vest. This satisfied her, even though my homemade vest looks fairly dorky.
[:p]
Then again, I ain't out there to win a beauty contest![8D]0 -
Better check w/ your hunting regs, here in MO, your altered orange vest would be illegal. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
quote:Originally posted by callktulu
I don't have enough experience, so if it were even over 100 yards, I probably wouldn't take the shot!![:0]
Then u better get to the range, and get you some practice in...U need to be completely comfortable with at least a 175-200yd shot(i think) or keep out of the woods, where you could be a problem for other hunters...MHO...
Jeff
It depends where you hunt at!
The area that I primarily hunt 100 yards would be a very long shot! Most shots are in the 50 to 75 yard range.
When I sight my 30-30 in I sight it in for 1" high at 100 yards to allow for some drop if I ever happen to need to take a longer shot, but as of yet I have never needed that allowence and am aiming just a hair low when I do shoot.
But I do agree that a person who is hunting should practice some at longer shots just incase it is needed.0 -
quote:Camo is a necessity for bow hunting NOPE. Been bowhunting deer for about 8 years now with very limited amount of camo and it hasn't made one bit of difference. I still hunt exclusively and get close to as many or more deer than I ever have. The truth is most camo patterns have too fine a detail to them and just turn into a blob beyond about 20 feet unless lighting conditions are just perfect (which they rarely are). Items like boots gloves and hats are small enough that they can pass for naturally occuring features of a single shade. wearing a solid color shirt or pants will get you by if you utilize different shades. I may even throw on a vest of another shade to break up the arms from the rest of the body. The last several years I have averaged 4-5 mature buck and as many or more does per season within 5 yards and probably another 20 deer within 20 yards.Most never knew I was there and of the few that saw me about 90% eventually ignored me if I kept still. Keeping the motion to a minimum is the biggest key. Most hunters will try to get off a quick shot when they think they have been spotted, I generally freeze and wait for a better shot which usually but not always comes. But it works for me. I never really worry about orange either. I bowhunt through most of the gun season and never have problems getting close to deer. 0 -
I wear camo, but I also wash it with unscented ALL laundry detergent. I do not worry about smell, uv light, etc, etc....
I do see alot of deer, I do kill a lot of deer, both rifle and bow.
I think the ultra scent control, ultra camo, doe in heat pee crap is a bunch of commercial hog wash. You can spend all your money on calls, rattle bags, scents, drag rags, special washing detergent, etc.
NON of that is nearly effective as just being in the woods.
One thing I know for certain is that a deer could care less how you look and smell when a 30-06 bullet goes through his heart.[:D]0 -
...I always wear camo when hunting, it sure as hell can't hurt. Only while hunting on public land here requires "see you a mile away" orange crap where you look like the highway guy holding the "slow down" sign...[;)] 
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I have shot many deer while not wearing camouflage, but I have also seen a drastic increase in my deer take since I started wearing camo. There are not very many straight edges and or 90 degree angles in the woods. Camo is good at breaking these sight variations up, so that the game you are hunting doesn't become alerted to you. A lot of biologists say deer can't see in color like turkeys do, but when I wear blaze orange the deer seem to see me sooner. Maybe it is just their seeing a big gray square or blob that looks strange to them. Camo is a necessity when hunting turkey, and or waterfowl, but I really think that with deer it is concealing you're scent, and hunting the wind & thermals that will help you the most. That and being in the woods during peek rut!
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