Eagle Scout
Heres one for all the former boyscouts and eagle scouts out there, im currently 3 merrit badges and my project away from getting my eagle scout award, ive been told that eagle scout looks great on resumes and applications, is this true?? also i hear that the military is partial to eagle scouts?? if you are one, how has this benifited your life?? all answers would be greatly apprieciated, thanks
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As ASM/OA Advisor/Venture Advisor, congratulations and keep up the good work! My youngest son has met all the required MBs with 43 and is working on his eagle project. My oldest son is an Eagle Scout and is currently in the Air Force Academy. Being an Eagle Scout requires hard work and leadership skills ... and will help you tremendously but only part of a bigger whole package. Such as:
AGPAs - 3.5 or better to be competitive
Average SAT Verbal - 637
Average SAT Math - 658
Average ACT English - 28.6
Average ACT Math - 29.6
Average ACT Reading - 29.6
Average ACT Science Reasoning - 29.0
Extra curricular activities
Leadership experience
Sports
Physical Fitness
Community involvement
Etc ...
Again, congrats!
YIS,
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Do it for your personal gratification.
Having it will not earn you one more red cent, than not having it.
Once you are working, GPAs, the Military, and extracurricular activities are not what employers look for.
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First, my question is- how can you call yourself akfanatic when you are not even old enough to own a firearm? Maybe a bb gun would be good for you. I am an Eagle Scout. But I never received "extras" in my adult life for it. When I was a scout we used to actually do more than the kids now do. But looking back on it- becoming an Eagle Scout taught me how to lead other and be a responsible American/ productive member of society unlike other people in our country. Also- I saw your post about welfare. Just wait until you get a real job, home, kids, car payment, etc. Then you can cry about not having any money. 0 -
Also- Isn't it past your bedtime? 0 -
I was in Boy Scouts for years, and I loved it. I especially loved summer camp, and going on weekend campouts.
I never got past Second Class, because I didn't want to learn Morse Code. Then, I was grandfathered as a First Class Scout when I joined Explorers.
I always admired Eagle Scouts. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work.
Keep at it and I hope you get your Eagle rank.0 -
I was told by a co-worker that earning the Eagle Rank makes you a shoe in for West Point, but that was 10 years ago or more. I earned my Eagle in 1971. No one said a word to me about any of the Academies.
As far as resumes and applications go, this is a funny world. Other Eagles understand the effort you have to put into the pursuit of the Rank, but it doesn't seem that most HR people give it much thought.
No matter what, it is something you can be proud of for the rest of your life!0 -
I learned enough Morse code to pass, and finally got First Class. Even got two merit badges. Reptile study and swimming.
About that time, my family moved to another city, making it inconvenient to get me to troop meetings. I took a part-time job to save money for a car, and pretty much lost interest in Scouting after that.0 -
Jhimco, im really not sure whats up your arse and you sound more like a jackass than a productive member of society, and im crying about not having money?? ha, sounds like youre a little upset that i dont want to pay for your welfare anymore, but what does my name have to do with owning guns?? your logic and reasoning is way off 0 -
Both my sons have earned their Eagle Scout. My youngest son's Court of Honor is at the end of this month. Yes it will make a difference in the long haul. Initially it will open some doors as you start out in your career. 0 -
Its a credit in your favor.Most kids your age are getting high,arrested and being world class disrespectful smartazzes.Keep it up,Never quit in the middle of a project,job,task etc and respect those who deserve it.If your application came across my desk,It would definately be put at the top of the pile.Probly wouldent get you any more money,But it DOES say something about you.Youll do fine in life.Seams like youve got a good head on your sholders.
P.S. I HATE SMARTAZZ PUNK KIDS!!!0 -
Couldn't hurt, that is for certain.
Even if it doesn't garner you any accolades in your adulthood, you will learn lessons in discipline and hard-work that will serve you well in adulthood.
Stop worrying about the title. It isn't going to make or break you. What counts is what you learn on the journey.0 -
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That is what I was trying to express.
Doug0 -
I actually had an HR guy get all happy when I mentioned I was Boy Scout - I was around 35 at the time.... 0 -
I am an Eagle Scout. I am a former Marine. Eagle Scouts and Marines have alot in common. We are both prepared and we are both the Keepers of the Faith. If you can become and Eagle Scout you can do anything. My 2 cents 0 -
It will help you get into a good college. It did me! Also helps with college scholarships. It also DOES look good on that first resume. Employers automatically assume that you have the dedication and "stick to itness" that it requires to complete the requirements. My son has his board of review for his Life next Saturday. If all goes well he will have his Eagle next February. Not bad for a 13 year old! 0 -
I know that one of my partners (The Col.) was an Eagle Scout, but I'd be hard pressed to remember seeing Eagle Scout mentioned on the resume of any of my employees. To be honest, I'll be a lot more interested in what university you graduated from, your GPA or any industry related projects that you worked on than whether or not you were an Eagle Scout. I suppose if you were entering the job market straight out of high school and searching for one of those popular Gun Broker jobs at the widget factory then being an Eagle Scout might make a difference, but not with me. Being a veteran or your skin color (what ever it might be) won't move you to the top of the hiring list either. 0 -
i was an eagle scout many years ago . although it did not help me get any more money , i have used the knowledge that i learned just about every day of my life. good luck 0 -
At the risk of being taken incorrectly, I'll answer your post...
There are those of us in this world that follow the "prescribed" path in life. Good grades in school, becoming members of certain clubs and societies, playing sports... The list goes on. If you happen to follow this particular path, then scouting is probably a good career move. Whether it will make a positive difference in the end will only be determined a couple of decades from now.
There are others who follow our own path. We are usually very bright (I don't include myself in this particular category) and often refuse to partake in what we consider the pure folly of doing what pleases "They and Them".
School? Let's just say that it was a place I had to go. Once I learned to read, school wasn't much of a help to me in total, though it did teach me to say no. No! Not now, not ever, and not for any reason. For me this was a very important lesson in life.
Sports? Unimportant games. That's all. Generally a foolish waste of my time. For you? Do as you must.
Clubs and Societies? No thank you. I don't do clubs or societies, but I guess somebody has to.
Social Events? Let's just say that I'm not all that social. My political skills weren't that good then and they're worse now. Maybe you're more tolerant of morons. I don't know.
College? Let's see here... I was told that I had to go to college. It would be good for me. This in the mid 60's. So, I'd get to pay to learn a bunch of drivel from professors who demanded that I repeat what they taught and be surrounded by a bunch of folks who would make me miserable, and I them. I don't think that would have been a good plan. Not for me anyway!
The result(s)? They've been pretty good for me. I was never in debt for schooling, but I became rather well educated nonetheless. Corporate policy wouldn't allow me to be hired or promoted under most circumstances because I hadn't followed "traditional" paths. I couldn't have given a fig of care then, nor do I now. I willingly paid the price... And there was most certainly a price!
It's all a matter of choice and perspective. Do it "their" way and you'll forever live by "their" rules. Perhaps you'll succeed by "their "standards and perhaps you won't. I personally view "their" terms of success as abject failure, but that's me.
Do it your way and "they" will seldom give you the credit you may deserve... But that's not my point. Do it your way well and "they" will have no choice but to pay you your due. The beauty being that if you reach this point, what "they" say or think will be of no matter whatsoever.
My opinion.0 -
jhimco, I really admire your posts it is clear you put in some research on how to best rip someone apart, all while completely ignoring his earnest question. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your constructive comments, it is clear you are a valuable part of the gunbroker forums. 0 -
Got my Eagle scout and OA. Having the Eagle scout award has never gotten a job for me, but it has been one of those things that has pushed the balance in my favor. Any organization will look at the achievement and understand that by earning the Eagle scout your disiplined enough to obtain goals, educated with understanding and have the ability to think and reason. As for the military? never served so i couldn't say. 0 -
In job applications and selection boards it's not likely to be the make or break line item, but everything else being equal, it could be the tie breaker.
What it demonstrates to a prospective employer is you started something and stuck with it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by sabb0007
jhimco, I really admire your posts it is clear you put in some research on how to best rip someone apart, all while completely ignoring his earnest question. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your constructive comments, it is clear you are a valuable part of the gunbroker forums.
No it isn't. If he had done any research, he would know that statement isn't true.0 -
quote:Originally posted by akfanatik
Heres one for all the former boyscouts and eagle scouts out there, im currently 3 merrit badges and my project away from getting my eagle scout award, ive been told that eagle scout looks great on resumes and applications, is this true?? also i hear that the military is partial to eagle scouts?? if you are one, how has this benifited your life?? all answers would be greatly apprieciated, thanks
I guess I'll delurk for this topic. [:D]
I'm an Eagle Scout, and I've also been a Scoutmaster and gotten to award Eagle Scout ranks. Keep up the good work. [:)]
There actually ARE some benefits to the Eagle award if you intend to become part of the military. You can actually find the Air Force recruiters manual out on the Internet. It specifically states that you get to go in at 1 higher pay grade than everyone else. (E-2 instead of E-1?)
You are also eligible to wear a ribbon that says you are an Eagle, but it has no military significance or official recognition from that standpoint.
I ask people about everything on their resume when I am hiring. That includes their Eagle Scout if they list it. Generally when I ask about the Eagle, I approach it as a leadership trait and work ethic. I like to ask what people did for their project, so that I can determine if its a lame project that just squeaks by or if its something that they are really proud of. I also ask how they motivated the younger scouts to show up and help put in the hours (leadership, understanding of motivation).
I generally only ask about it for an entry level position. After that your job experience is much more relevant.
A good network is invaluable when you are job hunting. Ever since Monster and Dice showed up, you get a zillion resumes the second you open a position. The interview is the easy part of getting the job. Getting the interview is very difficult. Your network is the key to your success. If you take advantage of NESA there are some good networking and mentoring opportunities out there. Never ever underestimate the value of who you know over what you know.
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quote:Originally posted by nord
At the risk of being taken incorrectly, I'll answer your post...
There are those of us in this world that follow the "prescribed" path in life. Good grades in school, becoming members of certain clubs and societies, playing sports... The list goes on. If you happen to follow this particular path, then scouting is probably a good career move. Whether it will make a positive difference in the end will only be determined a couple of decades from now.
There are others who follow our own path. We are usually very bright (I don't include myself in this particular category) and often refuse to partake in what we consider the pure folly of doing what pleases "They and Them".
School? Let's just say that it was a place I had to go. Once I learned to read, school wasn't much of a help to me in total, though it did teach me to say no. No! Not now, not ever, and not for any reason. For me this was a very important lesson in life.
Sports? Unimportant games. That's all. Generally a foolish waste of my time. For you? Do as you must.
Clubs and Societies? No thank you. I don't do clubs or societies, but I guess somebody has to.
Social Events? Let's just say that I'm not all that social. My political skills weren't that good then and they're worse now. Maybe you're more tolerant of morons. I don't know.
College? Let's see here... I was told that I had to go to college. It would be good for me. This in the mid 60's. So, I'd get to pay to learn a bunch of drivel from professors who demanded that I repeat what they taught and be surrounded by a bunch of folks who would make me miserable, and I them. I don't think that would have been a good plan. Not for me anyway!
The result(s)? They've been pretty good for me. I was never in debt for schooling, but I became rather well educated nonetheless. Corporate policy wouldn't allow me to be hired or promoted under most circumstances because I hadn't followed "traditional" paths. I couldn't have given a fig of care then, nor do I now. I willingly paid the price... And there was most certainly a price!
It's all a matter of choice and perspective. Do it "their" way and you'll forever live by "their" rules. Perhaps you'll succeed by "their "standards and perhaps you won't. I personally view "their" terms of success as abject failure, but that's me.
Do it your way and "they" will seldom give you the credit you may deserve... But that's not my point. Do it your way well and "they" will have no choice but to pay you your due. The beauty being that if you reach this point, what "they" say or think will be of no matter whatsoever.
My opinion.
That's one way to look at it.
Of course there's the other side that says accomplishments (such as Eagle Scout, athletics, academics, etc) are actually worth something, and even sometimes (degrees, proven leadership skills, etc) may be minimum requirements for jobs in all kinds of fields. You never know what will be the key thing that will get your foot in the door.
I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Worst case scenario - when you set a goal and accomplish it you feel good about yourself, whether anybody else ever notices or not. best of luck with it, and let us know when you get there!0 -
Didnt you say your 25 ????????? thats what your info says. ZAKK lol 0 -
krinkovman +1 open mouth insert foot[:D][:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by akfanatik
Jhimco, im really not sure whats up your arse and you sound more like a jackass than a productive member of society, and im crying about not having money?? ha, sounds like youre a little upset that i dont want to pay for your welfare anymore, but what does my name have to do with owning guns?? your logic and reasoning is way off
Do you know who that sounds like??0 -
i wonder if he's ever been chased by chinese mafia and shot twice[:o)] 0
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