Security guard does What ???
Stolen Library Book Leads to Shooting?
ANDERSON, S.C. (AP) - Police say a security guard at the Anderson County Library fired his gun at a car after the driver triggered a security alarm.
Police say security guard James Turner asked the woman to stop after the alarm went off as she left around 5 o'clock Saturday afternoon.
A police report states Turner chased the woman as she ran to her car and he said the bumper brushed his knee as she pulled away.
Police say the guard then fired into the driver's door. Authorities say the woman kept going and they don't know if she was hurt.
Library director Carl Stone says he's asked Cherokee Security Systems not to send Turner back to the library. Stone says no one should be hurt over a missing library book.
(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
ANDERSON, S.C. (AP) - Police say a security guard at the Anderson County Library fired his gun at a car after the driver triggered a security alarm.
Police say security guard James Turner asked the woman to stop after the alarm went off as she left around 5 o'clock Saturday afternoon.
A police report states Turner chased the woman as she ran to her car and he said the bumper brushed his knee as she pulled away.
Police say the guard then fired into the driver's door. Authorities say the woman kept going and they don't know if she was hurt.
Library director Carl Stone says he's asked Cherokee Security Systems not to send Turner back to the library. Stone says no one should be hurt over a missing library book.
(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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Wow! Guns in the hands of mentals is very dangerous![:o)][:0][:0] 0 -
The bullet smashed into the stolen books, and saved her life! 0 -
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And why are they letting security guards at libraries carry guns in the first place? What's so dangerous that requires guns in a library? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
And why are they letting security guards at libraries carry guns in the first place? What's so dangerous that requires guns in a library?
Was she escaping in the BookMobile?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
And why are they letting security guards at libraries carry guns in the first place? What's so dangerous that requires guns in a library?
Duh............. book Bandits![:p][;)]0 -
Why is there a seurity guard at a county library? Is crime that bad?
If I lived in such a place I would SERIOUSLY be contemplating a move.0 -
Kind of reminds you of that gung-ho guy on police acadamey movie who assisted the old lady, cause her cat was caught up a tree. Dang, can't think of his name![:D] 0 -
Not alot of thievin happens down yonder, but yet people still hire rent-a-cops Security Guards
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quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
Kind of reminds you of that gung-ho guy on police acadamey movie who assisted the old lady, cause her cat was caught up a tree. Dang, can't think of his name![:D]
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Turner need not worry about a job. NOPD is still hiring.[xx(] 0 -
I guess he wanted to book her like a real cop 0 -
"the bumper brushed his knee".
not too long ago here in st louis, a bona fide cop (not a rent a cop) capped two guys (or was it 3?) in the back of the head, in their truck, 'cuz it was out of gear and slowly rolling down the driveway towards him.
(sigh)
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quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
Kind of reminds you of that gung-ho guy on police acadamey movie who assisted the old lady, cause her cat was caught up a tree. Dang, can't think of his name![:D]
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quote:Originally posted by dcinffxva
quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
Kind of reminds you of that gung-ho guy on police acadamey movie who assisted the old lady, cause her cat was caught up a tree. Dang, can't think of his name![:D]
Tackelberry
That's it! I always get those brain farts anymore![:D]0 -
[8D]--I'm old fashioned--anytime you have a "qualified" security guard--HE should be ARMED--
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quote:Originally posted by jimbowby
[8D]--I'm old fashioned--anytime you have a "qualified" security guard--HE should be ARMED--
--[:D][:D]-JIMBO
Reasonable thinking above. However, if the story described is accurate, then the security officer was way out of line.
However, if a location (store, factory, library, etc) thinks they need a uniformed security/police presence at their location, then most likely that person should be armed. Armed after training and a through background check proving that person to be a stable, responsible individual who will only use force (any force, but especially deadly force) as a last resort.
I see it as foolishness to, for example, have a uniformed, badged, but unarmed security officer at our local Target store. Sure, some people will be respectful of that uniform and some people will even be somewhat intimidated by the uniform and badge (trust me, this is true with some people). However, just as with gun control/laws that are only obeyed by the already lawful, trying to "enforce" order, laws, rules, etc. with an unarmed officer will usually only work on the people who are not going to be a problem in the first place.
Besides, a Library is a public place meaning anyone and everyone at some point will probably enter that building. In some locations, homeless people have even started using libraries as day-time shelters. Sadly, many homeless people are unpredictable and, sometimes out of necessity, have to carry weapons for protection from predators on the street. In addition, some homeless people are alcohol and drug addicts, violent prone, etc. If they act up, many such people will be more likely to become cooperative when confronted by a uniformed authority figure if that figure is armed.
But anyway, if you had the job of wearing a uniform and badge (even a security badge) and getting paid to keep order in a government facility, as a gun enthusist, wouldn't you want to be armed?
And in regards to questioning whether or not a particular facility is dangerous enough to have security consider this. If every dangerous facility could be clearly indentified as being dangerous, then most people would avoid that facility. Or, if specific incidents of violence could be predicted (time, day, location, etc) then the smart thing to do would be for everyone to stay home that day.
In short, if you need security when dealing with volumes of a cross section of people, then you probably need armed security. If some easily angered person takes a book for checkout at the desk and is told they have to pay an overdue late fee and penalties, or if a group of people are getting loud and distrubing others and asked to quiet down, it is quite possible that person will become disorderly. If that person decides to act violently, towards others or towards property, it is not reasonable to expect an unarmed security officer to physically jump into the middle of such violence using only his/her body to try and subdue the violent offender.
The security officer apparently acted unreasonable and was a danger to others and until I learn otherwise, I do not support his actions. But as a gun rights supporter, the more of my lawful, responsible, and peaceful fellow citizens that I see carrying guns for defense, the better I like it.
After all, the violent criminals are already doing it anytime and anywhere they choose. Why limit lawful, responsible citizens unless their behavior (past and present) indicates they should lose their gun carrying rights?
JMHO0
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