Oddball question on hardware.
Where can I get a 4mm fine thread machine screw about 1 5/8" long with a round head? The wife found these old drawer pull knobs she wants to use but they require this odd screw and after going to four different hardware outlets the result is nada. One store had some 4mm screws but no longer than 1".
Any help?
Any help?
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Did you try Fastenal?
http://www.fastenal.com/web/home.ex
Don0 -
I appreciate the link but I can't make heads nor tails of what they have. They obviously designed the site for professionals and not for a doofus like me looking for something simple like "4mm x 1 5/8" screw." 0 -
Drill 'em out and re-tap? 0 -
You need to look for a screw that is 40mm long, there won't be any 1 5/8 screws if you are searching for 4mm. What exact thread is it and can you take a picture? I can find it for you in no time. 4mm has 3 different thread sizes, .7, .5, and .3. My guess would be that its .5, but in 4mm x.7 looks to be fined thread. I say take a picture, because when you say machine screw, that means 100 different things to 100 different people.
BTW, fastenal sucks butt0 -
furniture co.'s did that so their stuff wouldnt be interchangable. and just when you find the right thread, theyll throw a curveball at you and make it too short to reach the knob once passed thru the wood. it is a business alone matching hardware to old furniture. im restoring a 100 year old home with 100 year old furniture so i feel for you. welcome to the hunt.
best place believe it or not is in old junk stores and flea markets or antique shops that buy old homes on liquidation.
send me the knob. i might be able to match it using my junk heap.[;)]0 -
McMaster Carr part number 92005A236 is a button type, Phillips head 4mm x 40mm long .7 thread. 0 -
Go to a motorcycle shop. Honda, Yamaha, whatever Japanese.
Most have bins of bulk metric fasteners.0 -
If you even thought American threads were a pain, just try to match up Metric stuff. Besides the three different thread pitches for the small stuff, the pitches get even stranger with the big stuff. 0 -
Shoff14-
I love digital cameras. I was able to actually get a half-way decent shot of the screw that came with the knob. It's about 1" long (26mm?) and I need about 1 5/8". If you have two of these (I need two) I would be very happy to pay you for them, pay the postage and pay you for your time.
Can you tell I'm trying to keep the wife happy?
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Do you know if its .7 thread or .5? Looks like .7. 0 -
I'm a furniture and cabinet maker. If the piece the handles are going onto is not a valuable antique, take the drawer out and use a forstner bit in a hand-held drill to counter'sink the wood drawerface on the inside some to make the 1" screws work. The drawerbox and drawer face, of course have to total more than 1" for this to be your answer.
Hope that helps.0 -
I don't have a flippin' clue. 0 -
If I had the screw in hand, I could probably match it up to something I have on hand... 0 -
quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
I don't have a flippin' clue.
then how do you know its fine thread? My guess would be that its .7 thread, and by using your picture and calculating, it comes close. The screw you have there is 30mm, button top screws in metric are labeled by their total length, not just the threads. So, if you want a 40mm one, go the www.mcmastercarr.com and type in the part number I have listed above, its for a bag of 100 for $7.00 something. Order it now, it should be there on Tuesday. If for some reason it is .5 thread, then you will then know.
Now if this is an old piece of furniture, there are lots of different types of threads that do not really exist any more. That could be a lot harder if not impossible to find.0 -
Something that small I would suggest going to a hobby shop....ones that carry RC parts. Ive got a hobby town USA that stocks 4mm screws and there usually in bags of 2-4 pieces. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by shoff14
McMaster Carr part number 92005A236 is a button type, Phillips head 4mm x 40mm long .7 thread.
Amen! THat's the one I was thinking of.0 -
ACE IS THE PLACE!!!!!! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
I appreciate the link but I can't make heads nor tails of what they have. They obviously designed the site for professionals and not for a doofus like me looking for something simple like "4mm x 1 5/8" screw."
Doofus?......... don't be so hard on yourself. really don't be so hard on yourself.......... REALLY, don't be so hard on yourself0 -
its not the right length because youre most likely trying to put a wrong type of hardware in the wrong place on the furniture. if its short, it means the part it goes into should have a shaft that goes into the wood to greet it, so it doesnt have to reach as far. they have this hardware game to a science, as i and the cabinet furniture craftsmen here can attest to.
old hardware junk stores are your only hope. or send it to me and i'll match it up for you. ive been to every store in eastern va and conn. its not an easy puzzle.
i know 'governers antiques' in richmond will have it. itll just take a month of sundays to dig around.
and too, just a kind reminder...my dad was a master cabinetmaker. i know his craft and inherited all his 50 year cans of screws.
sometimes matching that stuff is like finding missing parts to an old shotgun or rifle.
you may be going about it the wrong way. post A PIC OF THE PART its going INTO. i can go from there and tell you what era and style it is and do a match for you.0 -
How much material is around the tapped hole? maybe you could re-tap it to 8-32?
When I worked in the Hardware store (A.L Damman Co, Detroit MI) 25 years ago, most if not all cabinet knobs and pulls (They were all U.S.A. back then) were 8-32, I don't doubt the chinese just used the closest metric size.
Don0 -
I sell them at work I would be happy to send them to you on Monday no charge. Let me know 0 -
I have gone the retap route more times than I can count with screws and bolts. Last week, I bought some Harbor Freight locking casters that took a 9/16" fine thread nut. No one around here had them except Fastenal, I needed 16, not the box of 50 they sold.
After I had rethreaded 8 of them to work with 1/2" standard thread nuts I had on hand - I got to thinking and tried a 9/16 fine thread wheel lug nut on the rest of them; they worked and saved me the rethread.
My point is: rethreads will work, you can change the threads to whatever you have on hand, AND if you have a problem in the future - you won't have to run the odd sizd bolts down again.
However, make sure you don't have something stashed that will work before you go to the work of rethreading.
Good luck.0 -
Big800- If you know what I need then please do send a couple and I owe you. I'll email my mailing address. Thanks. 0
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