Tipping: Different for attractive/average looking?
I personally do not tip more (i.e. I tip the same amount) to attractive people or people who are of a a higher 'aesthetic appeal' to the general population compared to the average looking person. However, I figured that I might be more so inclined to tip more often (sometimes I do not tip depending on several reasons) to attractive looking people. And also,
I do tip more for a more personal service like an individual cutting my hair versus several people washing my car at a car washing lot.
What about you?
I do tip more for a more personal service like an individual cutting my hair versus several people washing my car at a car washing lot.
What about you?
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I used to wash cars, and we seldom got tips for the work we did. While I know it was my job, there was a "tip jar" it just never got used.
Ben0 -
I tip strictly on quality of food and service.
Everyone starts off at a flat 15%. It goes up and down depending on my experience. This drives my wife nuts, who says I should be tipping everyone 20%. She wonders why I pay the restaurant bills.0 -
SS, I also tip 20% on bills, but depending on the quality of service. i.e. I may tip 20% on the total (tax included) for good service and food or I may tip 20% strictly on our food/bar bill before the tax. Just makes things easier for my simple mind 0 -
Better looking and friendly waitresses make more money than average looking and not so friendly waitresses.
Before I joined the Navy I worked at a seafood restaurant. We had a waitress named Geneva who was a very pretty girl, always smiling, and seemed to like everybody. We had another waitress named Francis. Francis could have been an average looking girl, but she went out of her way to be unattractive. She seldom smiled and she was strictly business. Geneva made a lot more in tips than Francis.
Geneva liked Francis and wanted to help her income without it looking like she was giving her money, so she suggested to Francis that they "pool" their tips in a tip jar and split the tips at the end of the shift. Francis said "No thank you! I work to hard for the little I make in tips. I'm not splitting them with anybody!"0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
I tip strictly on quality of food and service.
Everyone starts off at a flat 15%. It goes up and down depending on my experience. This drives my wife nuts, who says I should be tipping everyone 20%. She wonders why I pay the restaurant bills.
+1, if the service is great the tip is great, as long as they stay on the drinks, and my soda or tea is never empty long, they get a great tip.0 -
That's interesting. What would be the occasions when you don't tip at all? And how do you figure that you "might be more so inclined to tip more often to attractive looking people"? Just curious.
Tipping has become somewhat so expected, at least back in bay area, it's kind of ridiculous. Once we were in some place in downtown SF, me and a few other people, got all a couple of rounds of drinks, some appetizers, and as we were getting ready to go, got the check, paid it and left about 15% or so - the waitress threw a fit for not leaving her enough tip for about 2 trips to the bar (food was served by someone else) and about $15 tip. That was a bit of a shock as she almost threw the money back at us, well, needless to say, we just took it and well, never been there since.
How I tip? depending on service, 15-25%. There has I think been that one occasion when I (even though among a few) didn't leave anything. Maybe I am just lucky not to have had bad service.0 -
I don't have a guideline percentage to tip.
I consider each situation that might indicate that tipping might be appropriate, to be a unique event, and leave (or don't leave) a tip based on my satisfaction of the work performed.
With respect to car washes that are not automatic, I give a $5 tip to the attendant BEFORE the car is cleaned.
Doug0 -
I don't understand how this nonsense got so far out of hand. The standard used to be 10% & I wasn't crazy about that. People said that the cost of living went up so the standard had to be raised but the bills also went up so 10% of the bill went up too.
I think tipping is insulting. The price should include the service.
I would hate to depend on handouts. It's too much like being a bum.
I know many will respond about how hard they work for their tips but it shoudn't have to be that way. Their wage should be proper compensation for their work.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
I don't understand how this nonsense got so far out of hand. The standard used to be 10% & I wasn't crazy about that. People said that the cost of living went up so the standard had to be raised but the bills also went up so 10% of the bill went up too.
I think tipping is insulting. The price should include the service.
I would hate to depend on handouts. It's too much like being a bum.
I know many will respond about how hard they work for their tips but it shoudn't have to be that way. Their wage should be proper compensation for their work.
Leave the US and you'll find it is like that.
I tried to leave a tip in New Zealand for excellent service. I got to speak to the manager because the server was insulted.0 -
I use the same formula for tipping regardless of appearance.
My g/f is currently under-employed and unable to find work in her field. She is temporaily working for the snootiest restaurant in town. She gets paid $2 an hour plus tips.
When she first hired in there was a policy that all servers split the tips. A new waitress came to work there, wormed her way into the owner's back pocket and became the dining room manager. She changed the policy so that everyone kept their own tips.
It has created some animosity as the girls fight over who gets to serve which sections . . .0 -
I don't care how you llok as long as I get good service. Baseline 15% and I have tipped as much as 50% for outstanding service.
I hate crappy service at a restraunt and will leave no tip ( as I did July 4th) if I don't get any service.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
I don't understand how this nonsense got so far out of hand. The standard used to be 10% & I wasn't crazy about that. People said that the cost of living went up so the standard had to be raised but the bills also went up so 10% of the bill went up too.
I think tipping is insulting. The price should include the service.
I would hate to depend on handouts. It's too much like being a bum.
I know many will respond about how hard they work for their tips but it shoudn't have to be that way. Their wage should be proper compensation for their work.
I disagree. That would degrade the level of customer service, think about: why would anyone need to work harder and provide better service if they know they are getting paid for it whether you like it or not?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
With respect to car washes that are not automatic, I give a $5 tip to the attendant BEFORE the car is cleaned.
[:0] does this mean that you tip automatic carwashes post fact?
On an unrelated to car wash or Doug's post - does one tip a hooker for level of service?0 -
Gruntled, in the US, tips are a necessary evil. If not, you would receive extrememly poor service. This is a fact of life.
I tip from 0-30% depending on service level. I have rarely left 0, but have on occasion, including at a major Disney resort. The service was so bad that I also sent a letter to Disney and was refunded (in Disney cash) the entire price of the meal and was also sent 2 free, never expires, 3 day unlimited Disney passes.
Typically I leave 15%. But if service is bad, I have NO problem leaving $1.00.
My justification for leaving less of a tip, knowing that wait staff get about $2.00 or less an hour, is that they are in the wrong business and me leaving them a small or non-existent tip may help them make the right decision and get out of the wait staff industry. I don't feel that I should suffer for their lack of customer service skills.
I have never left a "penny" though.
PS = I am also STRONGLY against restaurants that "pool" their tips as this fosters mediocrity. You reap what you sew.0 -
15% is standard for me. I have left 1 one cent tip on occasion. I also left the manager with 2 cents worth of my opinion of his place.
Sliding scale. The better service I might go 30%.0 -
quote:Originally posted by SCorvers
I don't care how you look as long as I get good service. Baseline 15% and I have tipped as much as 50% for outstanding service.
I hate crappy service at a restaurant and will leave no tip ( as I did July 4th) if I don't get any service.
I once tipped 50% for a waitress that told me to go to hell and get my own damn coffee. It was the best service I ever got.0 -
tips make the world go around,
20% good service (food)waitressing is hard work.
Bartender---1.00 will insure you get a good mixed drink,If you plan to spend the evening at the same establishement give the bartender 20.00 he or she will hook you up for the evening.0 -
A pretty face and a nice set of hooters will always get a little extra![:p][:D] 0 -
I use 15% as the "starting" amount, and it goes up or down from there. Good service, as in what I expect, gets 15%. Exceptional service gets more (20% or so) and lousy service gets less (10% or so). Really lousy service can be as low as 0% to 5%. And I try to discern whether any problems or slowness are the kitchen's fault or the server's fault. Slow service with a hot meal is the kitchen's fault. A cold meal is blamed on the server. Not checking back for drink refills or needed items reduces the server's tip, too.
Exceptions to the percentage tipping rule are for very inexpensive restaurants and expensive ones. I will give more than 15%, for example, if I'm dining alone in an inexpensive restaurant and 15% is too little. On the other hand, if I'm dining in an expensive joint and the bill is very high, or if a big percentage of the bill is due to alcoholic drinks, I'll trim the tip down because paying on a percentage basis can result in a really hefty tip for the service provided.
As mentioned, I don't really like how the "standard tip" has grown from 10 to 15 to 20 percent. 20 percent is too high, IMO, unless the service is excellent and value has been added (extra trips, giving a free drink or side dish, etc.).
As for the original question regarding tipping more to attractive people, it probably happens. But it has more to do with attitude, timeliness, getting things correct, etc.0 -
I tend to agree with the 10% tip. Yes, the cost of living has went up, as such, so has the cost of food (eating out). I doubt there's much difference between 10% then and 10% now. Appearance makes no difference, service does. 0 -
Keep my tea glass full, get my order right, don't kneel down at my table and goo-goo-ga-ga talk to my kids, and don't pull my kids binky out of her mouth and take your finger that has been god-knows-where and blub-blub her lips...............you'll get a good tip. 0 -
I tip entirely on service and attitude. Leaving a small or no tip should inform the server that her/his knowledge is insuficient and should cause them to try harder in the future. Unfortunatly the practice of "splitting" tips can result in cooks,cashier,busboys,and other hourly employees getting the money you left for the server who does not have the privlige of earning minimum wage.
BTW the practice of leaving a penny tails up is a direct insult to the server and if used should be only for the servers attention. They cannnot affect how the food is prepared or prices. And they danged sure won't tell the other servers about it! Also should not be used if you are planning on ever returning! (cooks like to be macho for pretty gals and you will never know why everybody's snickering)
Allen0 -
I tip on the attitude of the server alone.... If the food is not satisfactory I simply never go back!!!
I tip the 13 and 15 yr old girl that serve my breakfast 3 or 4 days a wk 100%... they are two of the finest waitresses I have ever seen money is divided between them and both are saving for college... I asked the younger one how much of it she spend on having fun... She said "Oh I still get an allowance from dad for that stuff".
I've noticed that most people tip very small for breakfast... Usually the remaining change.... About 40 cents!!!0 -
[8D]--I have to agree with tobefree-My wife and I have breakfast several times a week in our favorite spot-(korean), but american food--
--If we're waited on by daughter (just out of High school) the tip is usually 30 percent--
--I've been in NEW spots where they immediately bring a glass of water and menu-then after 30 minutes I/we walk out--
--I don't get any argument from any cashiers/waitresses/owners--
--I'm good size and make no excuses--
JIMBO0 -
I have walked out of a few places myself. When we got no water or waitress after ten minutes we said screw it and left for another place.
One place used to be good then the service went downhill fast, they found the good tips we left also went down. I wrote the management and got a pass for two free meals. Those were bad also. Never went back.
Took my parents to lunch at the place in the building I work in. Waitress came by every couple of minutes refilling glasses. Got a rush when we first got in, so I went up and got our drinks from behind the bar, owner gave me a funny look. I did give a %20 tip that day though.0 -
Ask what tip the average black perdon would leave. If you want to complain about tipping- STAY HOME OR GET CARRYOUT!!!!! CHEAPARSES!![}:)] 0 -
I tip more for better service and even more for consistently better service. Looks have nothing to do with it because anyone who would sleep with me for a few extra bucks is someone I don't wanna sleep with. 0 -
I tip between 0 and 50% - If I leave a small or no tip, it always comes with a reason, told to the server, and sometimes to the manager - If you don't spout off about service to server and to management, they won't get any better!
For a Server to get 50%, the meal has to be near perfect, and the service has to walk the fine line between unobtrusive, but meeting my needs at the table before I need to ask, and too chatty or too often visits. Asking me how the food is at the wrong time, not waiting till I can talk, interrupting the conversation, etc, will cause the tip to get smaller.
My favorite restaurants are small, and unique for one reason or another - they have a harder time making it - I support them (and train them to pay attention) with my tips...after I have a small dinner with a few friends, a good tip will soon have them wishing I was back, and causes a minor celebration in the wait staff and restaurant management when I do return. It ensures that I get the best they have to offer. Small price to pay for exceptional service just when you have honored guests that you want to have a good time. When I speak a word to a manager about bad food or service, often someone gets fired.
Sometimes when the food was great, and the service was not, I make a point of giving the Kitchen a tip, without much for the wait staff.
I always ask about how the tips are handled in every establishment I visit. I never give more than the "Tip added" in bills with the tip included, but I always tell management and the wait staff that they would have gotten a better tip without it - I view it as an insult, and I don't make a habit of eating at those places. I hate the places where they share the tip. Whenever the Wine steward, the Maitre D', and the kitchen are exceptional, I give them something too.
Anyway, you will note that nothing above says anything about me tipping an attractive server more than a less-attractive one - that is because I don't care how attractive they are, just how clean, how attentive, and how pleasant they are. Self-absorbed lil poopz, lazy/mumbling/language problems, and skanks are unwelcome handling my food.
(this post was edited for grammar, spelling and typos - [Dang Fat fangers!], or I wasn't holding my tongue in just the right way)0 -
15-20% depending of food and service, I have left none when it has been the server, but they knew, if it wasn't htere fault, usual tip. 0 -
Looks don't matter to me as much as service. Nor do I attempt to do much table math to figure out what precentage I should tip.
When my wife and I go out to eat, the usual bill is around $30. And our stardard tip amount is $3.00. If the service is exceptionally pleasent and good, we'll throw in another dollar or two. I also add a dollar per person at the table if more than just the wife and I.0
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