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Navy Seal gets CMH plus monument

v35
Navy Seal squad leader, deep in enemy territory, hadn't the heart to kill a collaborating shepherd and gets swarmed by 200 insurgents as a consequence. They then kill three of his four man squad plus a chopper full of rescuers who were shot down. The squad leader gets decorated for exposing himself in calling for help after his blunder.
It makes me sick to see bad judgement rewarded.
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  • Wrangler
    Got a link to the story?
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  • fastcarsgofast
    Can we say arm chair quarterback?
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  • givette
    Can't make the connection between a shepherd and getting overrun without more info. I would just like to see the story for myself. Joe
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by v35

    It makes me sick to see bad judgement rewarded.



    It makes me sick to see internet commandos second guessing soldiers in the field.

    The SEALs don't seem to think he led his men to slaughter
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  • v35
    The evening news with Matt Lauer Channel 4 covered the story where Lt Mc..... was postumously awarded the CMH for exposing himself to enemy fire to call in help.
    His parents were interviewed, proudly boasting their son hadn't the heart to execute two shepards that discovered them. Within two hours of their release, several hundred enemy surrounded the four man Seal Team, shooting them to pieces. Lt.Mc....exposed himself to radio for help and was killed.
    There was one survivor to tell the story.
    The rescue helo with a support team was also downed without survivors.
    It shouldn't shock anyone that if you're on a secret mission well behind enemy lines and you're discovered by ANYONE, that person has to go or the mission is compromised. That's not Monday morning quarterbacking. It's the logic of survival.
    This same item came up a few days ago here on GB and a respondant mentioned the shepard(s). I asked if it was true then.
    This eve it came up again on tv with enemy video of the attack.
    That's how I read the fiasco.
    I'd welcome convincing argument to the contrary.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    SEALs are soldiers, not murderers. A lot of folks seem to have an overabundance of bravado and machismo when it's not them in the field with the decision to make and live with.

    It takes a big man to make a hard decision and live or die by it, while only a big mouth to condemn it from the safety of home.
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  • Sigfan
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Navy Seal squad leader, deep in enemy territory, hadn't the heart to kill a collaborating shepherd and gets swarmed by 200 insurgents as a consequence. They then kill three of his four man squad plus a chopper full of rescuers who were shot down. The squad leader gets decorated for exposing himself in calling for help after his blunder.
    It makes me sick to see bad judgement rewarded.



    Sounds like you are talking about Petty Officer Marcus Lutrell and Operation Redwing in Afghanistan. If you are here is what happened: while on a mission the 4 man Seal team came upon two grown men and a boy. The team had to decide whether to kill the three or let them go. The team decided to let the team leader, Marcus make the call, he decided to let the three go. Not long after, the team was attacked by an estimated 200 Taliban, in the battle 100 Taliban were killed and 3 of the Seals. And a rescue helo was shot down, killing all 16 on board. Marcus was seriously wounded and crawled away after being blown over a cliff by an RPG. He assumes the three he let go turned the Seals in, but nothing is certain about that. Don't know how you can Monday morning quarterback his call, you were not there. Lutrell was awarded the Navy Cross for combat heroism for his actions under fire.
    http://navyseals.com/marcus-luttrell
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  • v35
    It's a no brainer, the indigents had to go. Besides the logic of self preservation and the committment to your service of carrying out your mission, there's too much risk and plenty of precedent in not taking prisoners in enemy territory, especially in covert ops, when you have a small unsupported force and no rear. If that doesn't help you grasp reality, you need to do some biographical reading on actual military operations.
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