C&R question
Do the full automatic rifles listed in my C&R eligable firearms manual also have to be transfered like any other full auto or do I just have to send them a copy of my C&R license and it's legal for me to own? The reason I ask is because I'm thinking of buying this. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66246923
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I got my renewal form for my C&R License, and was filling it out. It comes with a certificate of compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(G)(5)(B)
Basically a certificate of citizenship. The instructions aren't spelled out real well, and it has a place for "Name under which the application was filed" OK, that's me. Next is "Name of Person Certifying to Citizenship" Is that me, too, or is that someone attesting to my citizenship?
I just don't want to make any mistakes on this application, because it's hell getting them straightened back out. I'm pretty sure my name needs to go in both places, but would appreciate advice from someone who knows for sure.
Thanks,
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wasnt sure which forum to post this on so i guess I'll ask here. I just requested my C&R app this past weekend(fathers day presant to myself)and had a question come to mind. I already have my ccp. When i get a handgun with the C&R do i have to have it added to my ccp. I guess i dont understand if they make a distinction between me as a collector and me personally(wouldnt that be the same as i am not collecting for profit or business, just pleasure)[?]. 0 -
In regards to mnrivrat48 post about a modified Winchester,
If a rifle over 100 years old was modified (changing it's caliber) well over 50 years ago (making it a curio) would it still be C&R eligible?
Curio definition is - something considered novel, rare, or bizarre, curiosity.0 -
What does it require for one to obtain a C&R license,applications,fees etc...
Brian
"Meine Ehre heisst Treue"0 -
I understand that a C&R license doesn't allow you to "engage in business," but it does allow you to buy, sell and trade to, "enhance or upgrade a collection."
Let's suppose you wanted a No. 4 Enfield. You buy five of them. You cherry pick the keeper. The rest are trading stock. Your buddy has a Russian M44 that you like the looks of, and you trade. You have "upgraded your collection," have you not?
At least that is my understanding of the C&R license. I could be wrong, and will stand correction, since I have never had one.
When you buy a gun on your C&R license, does it mean you have to keep it forever?
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I finally received my C&R license. Do/should I need to sign the original or should I leave it unsigned and sign all of the copies? Thanks.
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Would it be legal for a C&R from out of state to come into VA and purchase an M1 Garand from a private seller? If so what paperwork should the C&R present to the seller? 0 -
The Sarah Palin shotgun has me wondering. Would it be considered a C&R eligible firearm? To me it would fall under the following catagory:
c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.0 -
Hey guys I had a question. My C&R license is for illinois and Im now living in Wyoming. How does one transfer ones license/address?
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Now THAT'S a good investment! 0 -
The way I read the regs you still have to do everything in the transfer process exactly the same excepting that when everything is processed and approved the C&R machinegun can be shipped to you and not to a Class 3 dealer. 0 -
I'D BUY IT CAUSE ITS LIKE THE ONE USED IN THE FIRST TERMINATOR MOVIE !! 0 -
Kristov has it. Transfer process still goes on, you still pay transfer tax, just comes to you instead of a Class III dealer. 0 -
..."proper" transfer must be done. The "50" year rule of thumb, is just that, a rule of thumb.
ATF lists many friearms, they all are not at "least" 50 years old...[;)]
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quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
I don't understand how a modern production selective fire firearm would be eligible for C&R status? I've got a call in to my DOJ contact for clarification on this. If it were fifty plus years old, I would understand a loophole in the law. However, something just doesn't sound right to me.
It is not a loophole, it is the law that most firearms manufactured more than 50 years ago are authomatically C&R. They do not have to be on the list. It also doesn't matter if the firearm is still currently manufactured.
In any case, the Armalite AR18 is on the Curio and Relics list.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bloviator
..."proper" transfer must be done. The "50" year rule of thumb, is just that, a rule of thumb.
ATF lists many friearms, they all are not at "least" 50 years old...[;)]
It is not a rule of thumb, it's the law. Not all C&R firearms are on the list. That's just one of three criteria, any one of which makes a firearm C&R. Being made over 50 years ago is a second, independent, criteria.0 -
..unless you have the ATF C & R list memorised, or carry it with you, get daily "updates" from the ATF; "50" years old" IS a rule of thumb...reading comphrension is not exactly your stong suit is it...[;)] 0 -
As EOD guy says (and I have never seen a post of his that was incorrect) the 50 year rule is the law, and it applies to all firearms that are 50 or more years old, that are not otherwise covered. Some firearms less than 50 years old are also on the list, for exapmle all Colt Woodsman, Huntsman, Targetsman etc. even if less than 50 years old. There is no rule of thumb, either it is 50 years old, or it is listed, or it is not C&R. 0
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