Employer stole from me!
I would like to have some opinions about what I can do. During the past eight weeks I have worked in the home renovation business. The owner could not meet his payroll for three weeks and I decided to end our working relationship. Well on my last check he deducted almost $200 for brick that was needed to complete a job that was started before I even became employed with him. I went to the DOL and filed a complaint, they told me that he cannot do that but there was nothing that they could do. They stated it was a civil matter. I am in Georgia, and would like to know if there is anything that I can do to get my money back. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. I am not the only employee that he as done this too. The other fellow wants to beat the cr_p out of him. I am looking for alternative methods to get my money. Thanks for the input.
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I am looking for alternative methods to get my money.
Anonymously call ICE and tell them this guy is hiring illegals.
Oh wait, that's right, the illegals are all legal now. [:(!]0 -
go spray down his bricks with thompson water seal, morter will not stick to them 0 -
i like your co-workers suggestion...maybe an in your face visit by all concerned to this prince might get results....you would probably die of old age in the courts seeking redress 0 -
Jesse Lee,
If you can't somehow intimidate him into squaring up with you kiss your $200 goodbye. Chalk it up to experience. I know a knucklehead that sold used cars for an old geezer that screwed him out of a couple grand when he left and refused to settle up. This guy goes to the lot, barges into the old guys office, puts a pistol in his face and demands his money. The old guy tells him "pull the forkin' trigger, I aint givin' you a dime"! Of course he didn't pull the trigger and he didn't get a dime.[:D]0 -
I don't know your state laws but here in Minnesota if you are a licensed contractor you can put a mechanics lien on is home, than he cant sell it until he pays you to have it removed. 0 -
Take the high ground; File a small claims case, he will get stuck paying you and all court costs. Call the IRS to see if your 941 taxes have been reported and paid properly. 0 -
ask cutiegirlracing, bet she can figure this one out. hahaha[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
Take the high ground; File a small claims case, he will get stuck paying you and all court costs. Call the IRS to see if your 941 taxes have been reported and paid properly.
Bingo 941 form could be a big crime!!!!!!!!!!! [;)]0 -
+1 on small claims court.
In Florida, we have the Mechanic's Lien Law.
In a nutshell, it protects material suppliers and workers providing labor. If you provide labor or materials and the builder or owner fails to pay, you can then file a lien against the property which was improved.
If your state has a similar law and if you can determine where those bricks were utilized, advise your former employer that you'll file a lien against that property and contact that owner, his client.
That may get him to pay up.0 -
Make friends with a guy that pumps out septic tanks, and after he's pumped out a few tell him you have a "special delivery". Find the business owners home and have your new friend unload his pumping truck IN and OUTSIDE the house.
Hey, you'll get your $200.00 worth of satisfaction !!0 -
To get a mechanics/laborers lien you have to be able to prove he owes the money, and if you can they're not as simple to get as you might think. Remember, you have to deal with and involve your local Government. So you go through all this hassle, get a lien for the huge sum of $200, then if and when he is foreclosed on the existing liens are paid out of the surviving assets in the chronological order they were placed until the money runs out or all the liens are satisfied, whichever comes first. Or you manage to get to a small claims court and if you can't provide solid proof then it's his word against yours. Or you can try intimidation, maybe you can "scare" him into paying you, or maybe he calls the cops and you get a case, or maybe he beats your a$$. Or you can chalk it up to experience, and if the right opportunity ever arises, get your evens. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by JesseLee
I would like to have some opinions about what I can do. During the past eight weeks I have worked in the home renovation business. The owner could not meet his payroll for three weeks and I decided to end our working relationship. Well on my last check he deducted almost $200 for brick that was needed to complete a job that was started before I even became employed with him. I went to the DOL and filed a complaint, they told me that he cannot do that but there was nothing that they could do. They stated it was a civil matter. I am in Georgia, and would like to know if there is anything that I can do to get my money back. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. I am not the only employee that he as done this too. The other fellow wants to beat the cr_p out of him. I am looking for alternative methods to get my money. Thanks for the input.
Go take the brick he has made you pay for. Right from the wall or or whereever will cause the most damage to his project. If he complains tell the police that it was your brick and you have his paper work to so for it. If that does not work give the bricks back 1 at a time until he stops screamingerr complaining0 -
$200.00 Walk away and save yourself the stress.It ain't worth it.
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"here in Minnesota if you are a licensed contractor you can put a mechanics lien on is home, than he cant sell it until he pays you to have it removed."
In Georgia there is no licensing procedure for contractors. So I agree, file a mechanics lien. It may not get you the money, or it may not get you the money for quite a while, but it will get you satisfaction. Hard to just walk away from $200.
As someone suggested, tell the property owner that you will be filing the lien and they will put heat on this guy. You will certainly cause him $200 worth of trouble.
In other words, he decided to screw you because he thought he could get away with it. He thought you wouldn't do anything. You need to show him his mistake.
Do not go the route of physical intimidation, it could really backfire, and land you in jail.0 -
quote:Originally posted by wipala
quote:Originally posted by JesseLee
I would like to have some opinions about what I can do. During the past eight weeks I have worked in the home renovation business. The owner could not meet his payroll for three weeks and I decided to end our working relationship. Well on my last check he deducted almost $200 for brick that was needed to complete a job that was started before I even became employed with him. I went to the DOL and filed a complaint, they told me that he cannot do that but there was nothing that they could do. They stated it was a civil matter. I am in Georgia, and would like to know if there is anything that I can do to get my money back. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. I am not the only employee that he as done this too. The other fellow wants to beat the cr_p out of him. I am looking for alternative methods to get my money. Thanks for the input.
Go take the brick he has made you pay for. Right from the wall or or whereever will cause the most damage to his project. If he complains tell the police that it was your brick and you have his paper work to so for it. If that does not work give the bricks back 1 at a time until he stops screamingerr complaining
That's a great way to get arrested for vandalism.0 -
Small Claims court was mentioned. In California if you win in small claims court the defendant still has the right to go to municipal court. That gives him two chances to beat the charges. So in California it is sometimes better to go directly to municipal court. it would be a good idea to check and see if the laws are the same or similar to Ca's. 0 -
...have to go with your friends idea if anything, then be prepared for the fallout, or walk away from it....all the hassle for $200 bucks REALLY does not seem worth it...[;)]
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4 tires + sharp knife = 200.00 +
correct [}:)][}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by EVILDR235
$200.00 Walk away and save yourself the stress.It ain't worth it.
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+2 Not worth your effort for the $200. Let it go.
Doing mean stuff to get even will just start a chain of events you can not control![:0][:0]0 -
Be sure you have filed a complaint with the federal AND YOUR STATE depart. of labor. If that fails, then small claims court is probably your answer.
The other guy wanting to beat the crap out of him is a sure way to end up with a lot more problems than just being shorted on pay. Problems like assault and battery, jail time, civil suit, felony record and can never own anymore guns, etc.0 -
+1-think that 200 bones will cover bail?
Make sure you're the fly on the wall. Take a few days-follow him wherever he goes. Speak with the people he speaks with. Tell them what he's done. Make a few anonymous phone calls in relation to the immigration status of his employees. Expound upon his sexual habits with minors to the local PD. His drug habits too. I'm sure they'll take some interest.
Is he married? Tell his wife what he did. Tell his kids too.
Smell what I'm steppin in?0 -
IF you can't/don't get the mechanic's lien.
You know the little grill on the top of the hood, where the hood meets the windshield. Those are the fresh air intakes for the car's heat and ac systems.
If someone were to spray a whole can of pepper spray in there, he would get a real shot of pepper spray in the face the next time he cranked up the truck.
Be sure to wait a few months, so that he forgets that you have a grudge. Let's face it, this guy is probably screwing over several people, so he would have a list of suspects anyway.0 -
I knew a foundation contractor who said when someone doesn't get paid he takes it out on windows. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by v35
I knew a foundation contractor who said when someone doesn't get paid he takes it out on windows.
Geez! Poor Bill Gates [:D]0 -
I would let the money go, and move on. 0 -
How much did he owe you for payroll or work done? If it's just the $200 you can let it go or take him to small claims court or file a mechanics lien.
If you worked for him as an employee take it to your state labor board. File a complaint along with the rest of the guys that didn't get paid. you only have two years to do this. Once it's in the states hands then you can twist on him and have him show up to hearings and appeals until it is far more value to him to make him pay it. You don't even have to show up...the state represents you all the way through to a judgement.
When I got stuck for 5 grand out in Mt. logging that is what I did. It took three years but with penalties I ended up getting $6600 out of the deal after I had the case assigned to me and paid a lawyer to get the money. The reason my employer didn't pay me was the mill we were logging for went bankrupt. He opted to move out of state and play the game that no one could chase him down in WY. I made his life miserable down there and then he threatened up a storm when we nailed him for the ten grand total that he owed with penalties.0 -
quote:Originally posted by SAW2B
I would let the money go, and move on.
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quote:Originally posted by EVILDR235
$200.00 Walk away and save yourself the stress.It ain't worth it.
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