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Idahobound
What would happpen if I was to shoot 45LC out of my Freedom arms 454. My ruger super red hawk is labeled to do so what would be the differance.
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  • MrOrange
    Your ears wouldn't hurt so much.

    Seriously, it's the .38 spl/.357 mag thang.

    Lead or even a ring of jacket material can build up on the step in the chamber at .454 length, just make sure you clean it out good after shooting.
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  • BHAVIN
    It will shoot great. Just like Mr. Orange says you have to watch for the buildup of the shorter shells in the cylinder or you may have a hard time getting the 454's in. Just clean the chambers after you fire it and shoot cheaper with less recoil.
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  • Colt Super
    There is no such thing as a ".45LC".

    Doug
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  • Isurelkegns
    I'd stick with hot loaded .45Colts in that thing over he .454 anyway. The hot loaded .45Colts are some serious rounds.
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  • Idahobound
    quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
    There is no such thing as a ".45LC".

    Doug


    45 long colt
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  • Colt Super
    There is no such thing as a .45 "long" Colt.

    The cartridge you are referring to is no doubt the .45 Colt, frequently mis-designated as the "long Colt".

    The correct nomenclature is: ".45 Colt".

    If there were to be such a cartridge, I'm pretty sure it would be the one that is designated as the .454 Casull at present.

    No charge. ( I finally know something that y'all don't).

    Doug
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  • Idahobound
    Thanks for the info there alot of people selling long colts out there. Looks to me as they are all lying.
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  • Isurelkegns
    Im not so sure if the term matters so much because either way somebody will know what round your referring to but I myself have always called them .45Colt as well.
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  • 1911a1-fan
    only because there is no such thing as a .45 short colt, but the .45 colt is often referred to as lc, kinda like the magazine/clip argument it depends on the company whether it is an issue, at the same time knowing what you are talking about
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  • BHAVIN
    The "Long Colt" term came into being because people kept getting the 45 Colt confused with 45 ACP. Because at the time 45 acp was mostly fired in Colt 1911 guns. People would walk up to buy ammo and ask for Colt 45's or a box of 45's and might get either the 45 Colt or the 45 ACP. Long Colt may not be correct but for the people that don't know (or talking to people that don't know) it makes it simpler and less confusing.
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  • Doc
    During the late 19th century the Army issued two calibers of revolver ammo, one was the .45 Colt for the 1873 SAA and the other was a shorter .45 caliber round for the Schofield. The army marked ammo boxes ".45 long" and ".45 short" to indicated which ammo the box held. Eventually they stopped issuing the "long" and everyone used the .45 Schofield as it worked fine in the Colt guns (just shorter).

    So, there actually IS a .45 "Long Colt" although the designation was short-lived and only used by the military over 100 years ago.

    Personally, I don't really care if people say Long Colt. It seems to bother some folks for some reason.
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  • wtroper
    In my FA 454s I do not shoot 45 Colts. I choose to load the 454 brass down to a lower velocity if I want less recoil. Call me picky if you would like, but FA will make a 45 Colt cyl for the 454. If I wanted to shoot the shorter brass, I would get the correct cyl for it.
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  • Colt Super
    I have looked, because this always bothered me - OC(?) - and I have never seen any firearm roll marked ".45 Long Colt".

    It's really a petty and trivial issue, so I won't bring it up again.

    After all... I am not a petty and trivial person - unless you're talking to my wifey.

    Doug
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  • elkoholic
    I shoot lots of 45 LC (sorry Doug) through my 454 Super Redhawk. Makes it much more fun to shoot. I still step up to the 454 Corbon ammo when it comes time to shoot something.
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  • Colt Super
    How much longer is the .454 case ??

    Doug
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  • Doc
    Doug- I don't think any guns were marked Long Colt but some 19th century military ammo bozes were so marked and I think maybe veterans used the term and passed it on to the next generation. I recall back in the 1960s and 1970s factory ammo was commonly marked Long Colt on the box.

    You're right about it not being worth losing any sleep over but I find the evolution of language interesting.
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  • Colt Super
    Since I have nothing else to do with my life, I am also interested in the development of the language.

    I especially get a kick out of uniquely regional usages.

    It appears that people sort of "vote" on what is "right" in their neck of the woods.

    Doug
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  • jonk
    Much like the .32 Smith and Wesson and .32 Smith and Wesson long. The .32 S&W long is so much more prevalent these days (and it isn't exactly an every day round itself) that folks have started to calling the .32 S&W a .32 S&W short, and the .32 S&W long simply .32 S&W. Which isn't correct.

    Same thing with a lot of rounds really. 7.9X57I, 7.92X57IS, and 7.92X57IsS all just being lumped together and called 8mm mauser, etc. etc.
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