Lever action rifles and tang sights - Marlbles
I had a Winchester Legacy 94 on order and they closed shop before the order was filled. In the mean time of waiting, I was impatient and purchased a Marbles tang sight for it from Brownell's (they've got a great tech support group).
So I called Brownell's and they said the sight would fit on a Winchester 94 (which I own) and I installed it.
Are these sights great or what!!! I love it.
The only other issue was that I frequently go to the range in the evening and the aperature (hole size) has to be changed as the light decreases. It comes with (3 I think) that unscrew. Twice I have dropped one at the range and spent a half hour looking for it in the dark.
It dawned on me the other day that years ago I used to have an adjustable one on a target rifle. So I called Brownell's again.
Once again their tech support folks were right in tune and matched a Merit adjustable aperature to the marbles #10-32 thread.
I haven't received it yet, but I was at the Orlando gun show today and purchased a used one from a dealer with a #10-40 thread. It will barely start to screw into my Marble's sight (don't want to hurt the thread) but the reason for the story is that this aperature is about 3/8" longer than the Marbles aperature but will still clear the stock with room to spare when folded down. So the one on its way is going to fit perfectly.
If you own a tang sight or just like the idea of the added sight radius the tang sights provide, call Brownell's, give them your rifle make and ask if there is Marbles or Lyman tang sight and a Merit adjustable aperature that will fit. (some sights have different thread sizes so you need their help to fit it properly)
I'm going to have to place this tang sight addition to my rifle as one of the most useful and coolest upgrades I've made.
I can make clear, accurate shots at 100 yards with this 30-30 like I never could before. It cures your eyesight problems too. They even make one with a lense if you really have problems.
I like it so much I'm thinking to purchase a Marlin 30-30 (some common caliber afordable to shoot) with an octagonal 24 barrel. Stainless steel if I can get it.
I'm looking for the best caliber that doesn't drop over a long distance in a lever action.
When I used to reload, I would carry the first (2) rounds with pointed bullets (one in the chamber and the first one in the magazine) so that the primers were protected but the rounds would carry much farther.
I think Hornady offers a plastic tip round now but you can't get the bullets for reloading.
Anyone else been down this road?
Bob
So I called Brownell's and they said the sight would fit on a Winchester 94 (which I own) and I installed it.
Are these sights great or what!!! I love it.
The only other issue was that I frequently go to the range in the evening and the aperature (hole size) has to be changed as the light decreases. It comes with (3 I think) that unscrew. Twice I have dropped one at the range and spent a half hour looking for it in the dark.
It dawned on me the other day that years ago I used to have an adjustable one on a target rifle. So I called Brownell's again.
Once again their tech support folks were right in tune and matched a Merit adjustable aperature to the marbles #10-32 thread.
I haven't received it yet, but I was at the Orlando gun show today and purchased a used one from a dealer with a #10-40 thread. It will barely start to screw into my Marble's sight (don't want to hurt the thread) but the reason for the story is that this aperature is about 3/8" longer than the Marbles aperature but will still clear the stock with room to spare when folded down. So the one on its way is going to fit perfectly.
If you own a tang sight or just like the idea of the added sight radius the tang sights provide, call Brownell's, give them your rifle make and ask if there is Marbles or Lyman tang sight and a Merit adjustable aperature that will fit. (some sights have different thread sizes so you need their help to fit it properly)
I'm going to have to place this tang sight addition to my rifle as one of the most useful and coolest upgrades I've made.
I can make clear, accurate shots at 100 yards with this 30-30 like I never could before. It cures your eyesight problems too. They even make one with a lense if you really have problems.
I like it so much I'm thinking to purchase a Marlin 30-30 (some common caliber afordable to shoot) with an octagonal 24 barrel. Stainless steel if I can get it.
I'm looking for the best caliber that doesn't drop over a long distance in a lever action.
When I used to reload, I would carry the first (2) rounds with pointed bullets (one in the chamber and the first one in the magazine) so that the primers were protected but the rounds would carry much farther.
I think Hornady offers a plastic tip round now but you can't get the bullets for reloading.
Anyone else been down this road?
Bob
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Not a direct reply to your question but a suggestion. For hunting you can screw out the aperture and aim through the threaded hole. I hunt with a 1903 Springfield equipped with a Lyman 48 sight. I just aim through the threaded hole and it is plenty accurate for deer hunting. This was a common practice in the days when aperture sights were popular for hunting. 0 -
there are a host of new calibers out, and Hornady, and Marlin got together to make one called the 308 Marlin Express. Marlin has the Leverevolution line which instead of having a plastomer(plastic) tip, has an elastomer(rubber) tip that will not detonate the round in front of it in a tubular magazine. They have some proprietary powders in them for higher performance, and no the bullets are not yet that I know of, available to the hand loader. The loaded 30-30 rounds spouts a 160 grainer at 2400 FPS, and the 308 ME at 2660 FPS
Yes those aperature sights are something. I have a Sharps copy in 45-70(Pedersoli), and can consistantly break hanging on nail, clay birds withg it at 200 yards, and gallon jugs that are water filled at 400 yards. It is simply amazing.
It seems not to matter about the size of the aperature, as the human eye seems to self center the front sight in it, unless the shooter tries hard not to. But thereotically, the smaller hole would give higher resolution to accuracy.
Enjoy your new sights, and don't sweat about the new stuff in the line of ammo. If you can memorize one trajectory curve, and judge distance, some type of distant targets will have a problem.0 -
We'll, I had pretty much decided on a Marlin 30-30 with a 24" octagonal barrel, stainless if I could get it. I also did a search here and a lot of people have been extremely happy with the Puma. I've seen them, they are nice.
I went checking prices and ended up at the moment with a Walmart Puma 24" octagonal bbl stainless 44 mag on order for $439. No 30-30 available in Marlin or Puma in a similar style.
Not a lot of choices there, most were cowboy calibers at a $1-2 per round without reloading.
I already have a 629 and some ammo stocked up so that 44 was the only choice (at least out of their catalog).
(Also the 800 number in the new Wal mart catalog is for phone sex. The 800-722 should be 800-772)
If I want to find a 30-30 I'll need to throw in an additional $200 at the local gun shop.
This wasn't my first choice. The Puma 44mag is going to drop at any distance. I was trying to avoid that with a faster round. They put me on backorder so I could change it if someone has an idea.
Also, does anyone know if the Puma is a copy of something like a Winchester? When I called Brownell's about a tang sight, they didn't have one listed yet. There has to be one that will fit.0 -
Marlin Makes a model with a 24 or 26 inch barrel especially for the new Hornady Leverolution ammo, and it is in stainless. you will not find it with an octagon barrel. They do make a 336 model cowboy gun in 30-30, with an octagon barrel, it is blued. The PUMA is a copy of the famous Winchester 1892, and is based on pistol length rounds, so you will not find it in 30-30 either. The PUMA if I am not mistaken can be had in 454 Casull too. 0 -
This was an old thread but I thought I would update since I started it when I ordered the rifle and never updated it after it arrived.
The subject was about a new purchase of a Puma '92, 44 mag, 24" octagonal bbl in stainless steel and trying to fit it with a tang sight.
I've had the rifle now for a while and it is beautiful. It's the middle one in these pictures:
http://www.legacysports.com/products/puma/puma_leveraction.html
I have several other lever action Winchester and Marlins. My Marlin 357 mag has fairly little kick or report when fired. This Puma 44 mag on the other hand turned out to be an excellent choice with plenty of power. The cost of the 44 mag cartriges is probably one of the more affordable choices also compared to some of the cowboy calibers.
With the rear sight adjusted all the way down, it was dead on and almost exactly 6" high at 100 yards. Everyone at the range got in line to shoot it (it was a blast). We didn't get a chance to try 200 or 300 yards, but figured that it was easily within the sight adjustment.
The balance with the 24" barrel is great also. (true with all of their 24" models I've handled).
Just thought I'd give the Puma credit where it is due (since I tend to be overly critical some times). I really love this rifle and would recommend it to anyone.
I ordered (2) Marbles tang sights and had to return them due to wobbly construction. I'm going to try and get a Lyman tang sight for it tomorrow (need to talk to Lyman to make sure I get the right one).
I'm also considering a hooded front target sight. The only issue will be the dovetail in the barrel and the height. If I get it all worked out, I'll post the part numbers here for the next person.0 -
Strange they don't list the .454 Casull model. Those list prices blow my mind as I paid about half that for my .454.
Yes the Puma is a copy of the Winchester 92 except for the safety.
I would like to try a tang sight but I wonder if the recoil might injure the web of my hand.
I just checked Dixie Gun Works online catalog & their current price is $85.00 which is $10 more than in the 2002 catalog I have.0
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