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  • Mk 19
    It is Carbine, but it has been altered with the addition of the reciever sight. I would need the markings off of your rifle to be sure of the model.
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  • JMcB
    Mk, I will be glad to post any markings you may need. I swear the sight looks factory.

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  • Mk 19
    Ok, give me everything you can off of the reciever and barrel, pictures of the markings would also work.
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  • JMcB
    Mk, the only markigs other than a U stamped into the barrel band is on the reciever U.S. 1894 Springfield Armory 19180. Nothing on the barrel.
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  • Radar
    I thought that the carbine's had a ring mounted on a bar slide. Has the forearm been cut and refinished ?
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  • JMcB
    Found a couple markings on the stock behind the trigger guard the #33 and a circle with what looks like a script letter P. Forearm doesn't appear to have been cut.
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  • Mk 19
    According to my sources you have a Model 1892, 2nd type that has been converted into a carbine. What tells me this is the 1894 stamp and the serial # that falls between 1500 and 24,562. It looks as if I was a bit harsh in stating that it was a actual carbine.
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  • JMcB
    Thanks Mk for taking the time. If bubba did convert the rifle, he did a great job.
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  • Hawk Carse
    Need a better look at the front sight.
    When the NRA was selling Krags for $7.50 they soon ran out of carbines and Benicia Arsenal cut a lot of rifles down to carbine length. They used 1903 front sights.

    They did not install the receiver sight, it was made to fit in the cutoff hole without requiring alteration to the gun and so was likely done by the owner.

    Or it might have been cut down by a gunsmith. Back then it was just army surplus, not a Valuable Historical Artifact and Valuable Collector's Item to be worshipped.
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  • JMcB
    Cool, give me a few min and I will post a pic of the sight.
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  • JMcB
    Front sight

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  • Hawk Carse
    Well, that is a 1903 front sight, so it could well be an NRA carbine with a Redfield No 102K peep sight added. It is not a rare piece and has no service connection but it is a good sound period rifle.

    My condolences to your wife.
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  • JMcB
    Thanks everyone, Tony was not a wealthy man by any means. He retired from a glass factory, practiced taxidermy part time and possessed a great spirit for the outdoors. This gun is one of those things that will be in our family for generations. My sons will shoot it, their kids and their kids. Everytime one of us picks up this gun we will remember and think of Tony.
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  • ladams
    I would say it is an NRA carbine.... but the fact that it has family value is what makes it the most special. Keep it, shoot it, treasure it, and pass it down to another generation. I have a bunch of those kind of guns that I would never part with no matter how much they were worth, and just the same I will never stop shooting them not matter what someone says there worth.
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  • zipperzap
    I have a '98 carbine - if you plan to shoot reloads be careful to keep the pressures down.

    The carbines are great shooters/hunters - not for long range but a great brush gun. Our favorite .30-40 Krag reload is the 150gn Remington Core Lokt/42 gns of IMR 4064/cci 200 ... puts it downrange @ 2500fps. Enjoy - I love mine. Oh yes - have a smith look it over for any cracks, pressure damage, etc. before shooting it - always a good idea with a 19th century shooter.
    [8D]
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  • gruntled
    quote:Originally posted by JMcB
    Mk, I will be glad to post any markings you may need. I swear the sight looks factory.

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    I have one that has the same rear sight. The rear sight replaces the magazine cut off switch.
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