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  • deputydog214
    Been around before....but so what?


    HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?

    This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

    I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

    How Long Do We Have?

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a di ctatorship."

    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"

    "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

    2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

    3. From courage to liberty;

    4. From liberty to abundance;

    5. From abundance to complacency;

    6. From complacency to apathy;

    7. From apathy to dependence;

    8. From dependence back into bondage"

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some in teresting facts concerning the 2000
    Presidential election:

    Number of States won by:
    Gore: 19
    Bush: 29

    Square miles of land won by:
    Gore: 580,000
    Bush: 2,427,000

    Population of counties won by:
    Gore: 127 million
    Bush: 143 million

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    Gore: 13.2
    Bush: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
    Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyl er's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
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  • deputydog214
    Got this in an email from a friend and found it to be interesting.



    HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?


    This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.


    I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.


    How Long Do We Have?


    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:


    'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'


    'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'


    '>From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'


    'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'


    'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:


    1. From bondage to spiritual faith;


    2. From spiritual faith to great courage;


    3. From courage to liberty;


    4. From liberty to abundance;


    5. From abundance to complacency;


    6. From complacency to apathy;


    7. From apathy to dependence;


    8. From dependence back into bondage'


    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:


    Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29


    Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000


    Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million


    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1


    Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.


    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.


    If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message. If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom


    WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE,
    ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE
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  • deputydog214
    How long do we have?


    No matter what your politics are, this is an interesting read.
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    HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?



    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution

    in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of

    Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some

    2,000 years earlier:



    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a

    permanent form of government." "A democracy will continue to exist up until

    the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from

    the public treasury."



    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who

    promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that

    every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is

    always followed by a dictatorship."



    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of



    history, has been about 200 years."



    "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the

    following sequence:



    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

    3. from courage to liberty;

    4. from liberty to abundance;

    5. from abundance to complacency;

    6. from complacency to apathy;

    7. from apathy to dependence;

    8. From dependence back into bondage"



    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul,

    Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000

    Presidential election:



    Number of States won by:

    Gore: 19

    Bush: 29



    Square miles of land won by:

    Gore: 580,000

    Bush: 2,427,000



    Population of counties won by:

    Gore: 127 million

    Bush: 143 million



    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:

    Gore: 13.2

    Bu sh: 2.1



    Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was

    mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.



    Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in

    government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government

    welfare..."



    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency

    and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some

    forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the

    "governmental dependency" phase.



    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal

    invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA

    in fewer than five years.



    Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing

    that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.
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  • deputydog214
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    Subject: [StayinAlive] How long do we have?


    This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad
    thing about it, you can see it coming. How Long Do We Have?

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
    the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
    Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot
    exist as a permanent form of government."
    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that
    voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
    treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the
    candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with
    the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose
    fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
    beginning of history, has been about 200 years"
    "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through
    the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. from courage to liberty;
    4. from liberty to abundance;
    5. from abundance to complacency;
    6. from complacency to apathy;
    7. from apathy to dependence;
    8. From dependence back into bondage"


    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University
    School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts
    concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

    Number of States won by:
    Gore: 19
    Bush: 29
    Square miles of land won by:
    Gore: 580,000
    Bush: 2,427,000

    Population of counties won by:
    Gore: 127 million
    Bush: 143 million

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    Gore: 13.2
    Bush: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
    Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this
    great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living
    in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
    welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between
    the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
    democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already
    having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million
    criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say
    goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
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  • Blckhrn
    Good post, although I would put us more in the dependence phase.
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  • nyforester
    Good post
    I would say we are at #7 but have longer than 5 years. I would think at least 15 years. That is when China is going to be the biggest player on the planet and the Illegal Mexicans will be a fly in the ointment but nothing compared to 3 billion chinamen.
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  • sabb0007
    interesting, it's H'a'mline university, not H'e'mline, that school was only a couple of miles away from mine.
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  • bobski
    good, but old. this has been around for a while. the independence to bondage theory is basic studies in most colleges.
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