Former dealer busted
...Since when does the waiting period apply to face to face sales, not involving a dealer?
WMAQ-TV
Updated: 56 minutes ago
MUNDELEIN, Ill. - Police confiscated 636 guns from a man who used to own a gunshop in Mundelein after he sold three 9 mm handguns to undercover officers with the Lake County Metropolitan Enforcement Group. Michael Sonka, 55, of Granville Road in Mundelein, was charged with gun running, a Class 1 felony, authorities said Monday.
Mundelein police gathered intelligence that indicated Sonka was selling guns from his home, and they contacted MEG for assistance, authorities said.
Sonka surrendered his federal firearms license four months ago. That license enables an individual or company to engage in business pertaining to the manufacture of firearms and ammunition or the interstate and intrastate sale of firearms.
Sonka agreed to meet with an undercover officer to discuss the purchase of handguns, and the officer went to Sonka's residence Friday. After a brief conversation, the officer allegedly was able to buy the pistols and five boxes of 9 mm ammunition.
After the officer left the building, MEG and Mundelein police moved in and confiscated the guns and other evidence.
Police said Sonka did not abide by the required three-day waiting period and failed to comply with other necessary documentation for selling firearms in the alleged sale to the undercover agent.
Sonka is listed on Geejay, a shooting and hunting online source. He advertised himself as Mike's Sporting Goods of Mundelein and listed himself as a federal firearms-licensed dealer who could handle transfers and also sold rifle scopes and other shooting accessories.
WMAQ-TV
Updated: 56 minutes ago
MUNDELEIN, Ill. - Police confiscated 636 guns from a man who used to own a gunshop in Mundelein after he sold three 9 mm handguns to undercover officers with the Lake County Metropolitan Enforcement Group. Michael Sonka, 55, of Granville Road in Mundelein, was charged with gun running, a Class 1 felony, authorities said Monday.
Mundelein police gathered intelligence that indicated Sonka was selling guns from his home, and they contacted MEG for assistance, authorities said.
Sonka surrendered his federal firearms license four months ago. That license enables an individual or company to engage in business pertaining to the manufacture of firearms and ammunition or the interstate and intrastate sale of firearms.
Sonka agreed to meet with an undercover officer to discuss the purchase of handguns, and the officer went to Sonka's residence Friday. After a brief conversation, the officer allegedly was able to buy the pistols and five boxes of 9 mm ammunition.
After the officer left the building, MEG and Mundelein police moved in and confiscated the guns and other evidence.
Police said Sonka did not abide by the required three-day waiting period and failed to comply with other necessary documentation for selling firearms in the alleged sale to the undercover agent.
Sonka is listed on Geejay, a shooting and hunting online source. He advertised himself as Mike's Sporting Goods of Mundelein and listed himself as a federal firearms-licensed dealer who could handle transfers and also sold rifle scopes and other shooting accessories.
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Private party sale? 0 -
He'll get his guns back.
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quote:Originally posted by tapwater
confiscated 636 guns
Bet that hurt!!0 -
is it just because its Illinois? 0 -
quote:Sonka is listed on Geejay, a shooting and hunting online source. He advertised himself as Mike's Sporting Goods of Mundelein and listed himself as a federal firearms-licensed dealer who could handle transfers
I believe that this could go either way.
1. He advertised himself as Mike's Sporting Goods of Mundelein and listed himself as a federal firearms-licensed dealer.
If he was advertising that he was an FFL dealer than he should have followed FFL rules and regs when he sold the firearms. Right.
2. If he surrendered his federal firearms license four months ago. He should have pulled all ties to anything pertaining to a company or business. Then it may have been considered a private sale. Right?
I think that the guy made a major mistake. He should have pulled all ties to his Sporting goods company including having the phone number disconnected. Then gave up his FFL.0 -
With 636 guns in stock that he was selling he definatly was engaged in the business without a FFL. Deserves to be busted as he figures he's above the rules the rest of us have to play by. 0 -
So the guy owned a Sporting Good Store with an FFL. He sold the store. He has a personal collection of 635 guns.
First question
Why cannot a guy with an FFL sell something from his person collection through a private transaction?
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If the guy listed the address of "Mike's Sporting Goods" as the address of the business and the business is sold, how can the claim be made that his home is an extention of the business?
Third
Does having an FFL mean everything sold from his personal collection at home have to be sold through the business?
The artical does not provide enough information.0 -
Is it "FOID" cards in Il??? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by duckhunter
Is it "FOID" cards in Il???
That is what us lowly pleabs have to buy ammo in Illinois from an FFL
"Firearms Owner Identification Card"0 -
Do you need the card to buy a gun??? 0 -
Yes you do. 0 -
41nut....I disagree with you on this one. I am not saying that THIS person is not guilty of wrong-doing. THIS person sounds like he was just about asking for trouble....(but rule #1 is NEVER EVER believe what you hear from the media!!!)
Say I decide not to have an FFL any longer.....and I turn in my original copy of my FFL and mail all of my background checks to the ATF storage facility and notify my distributors that my license is null and void.
I still OWN my entire inventory. They are MY guns. What I do with them is no different from what every citizen has a right to do with their guns. I can sell them to whoever I like.....without the constraints of the FFL's restrictions.
The only difference is that NOW...I cannot continue to BUY and sell guns with the intent to make a profit. I still cannot sell a gun to someone that I KNOW cannot have a gun....but I am no longer obligated to ASK if they can or cannot have one.
ONE gun or ONE THOUSAND guns....there is no difference in rules for how many guns you have.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
41nut....I disagree with you on this one. I am not saying that THIS person is not guilty of wrong-doing. THIS person sounds like he was just about asking for trouble....(but rule #1 is NEVER EVER believe what you hear from the media!!!)
Say I decide not to have an FFL any longer.....and I turn in my original copy of my FFL and mail all of my background checks to the ATF storage facility and notify my distributors that my license is null and void.
I still OWN my entire inventory. They are MY guns. What I do with them is no different from what every citizen has a right to do with their guns. I can sell them to whoever I like.....without the constraints of the FFL's restrictions.
The only difference is that NOW...I cannot continue to BUY and sell guns with the intent to make a profit. I still cannot sell a gun to someone that I KNOW cannot have a gun....but I am no longer obligated to ASK if they can or cannot have one.
ONE gun or ONE THOUSAND guns....there is no difference in rules for how many guns you have.
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Once you surrender your FFL, what you have logged to yourself is yours.
I don't doubt there is a member or two here who can best his collection.
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