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12 O'Clock High

catpealer111
Just finished watching it, loved it. Great old war movie.
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  • Sig220_Ruger77
    Don't believe that I have seen that one, but I just finished watching "Midway" in whole, for the first time. Thought that was pretty good.

    Jon
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  • Grasshopper
    Both good/// Watch "Run silent run deep" also,,nambu
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  • Colt Super
    "Midway" and "The Battle of Britain" are probably the most accurate WWII movies, with "12 O'clock High" right up there with them.

    Doug
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  • bobski
    12 OCLOCK HIGH is a classic. so much that it was used as a leadership demo flick in the military....to demonstrate what not to do.
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  • ripley16
    A great movie no doubt. Gregory Peck made no bad movies. The Memphis Belle gets a authenticity vote from me because it's one of the few WWII movies that cast young kids, not 35 year olds, in the key roles. That's what they were...24 year old commanders, 22 year old pilots, 19 year old gunners, 18 year old mechanics.
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  • bgjohn
    I agree, Memphis Belle, is very authentic. Very well done.
    JM[^]
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  • Txs
    A highly accurate movie, written by B17 veterans, based on the activities of a single 8th AF Bomb Group and containing lots of actual footage from the war. I don't know it for a fact, but I've always heard the air base scenes were filmed at Eglin AFB.

    The scene where the bomber belly lands was based on an actual incident where the 2Lt. co-pilot was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions. They were shot to pieces by fighters while still in-bound and hours out from the target area, with five crew members out of action. This included the pilot who died from his wounds. The co-pilot continued the mission flying the aircraft alone, maintained formation and along with the surviving navigator managed to put his bombs on target. He then brought the aircraft and surviving crew members back down in England where his aircraft had to be written off as a total loss. This is almost required learning in my neck of the woods because this 2Lt. was a Texan. [;)]

    It bears keeping in mind while watching this movie that the combat scenes aren't actually overstated. The 8th AF had a higher casualty rate flying these missions over Europe than Marines during their brutal campaign in the Pacific.

    Some of these crew members got pretty screwed up by all of this. In fact, after the war the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club was founded by returned bomber crew members and was named after an 8th AF Bomb Group.
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  • William81
    Great Flick....
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  • D1
    12 O'clock High?! Me too!!!
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    A highly accurate movie, written by B17 veterans, based on the activities of a single 8th AF Bomb Group and containing lots of actual footage from the war. I don't know it for a fact, but I've always heard the air base scenes were filmed at Eglin AFB.

    The scene where the bomber belly lands was based on an actual incident where the 2Lt. co-pilot was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions. They were shot to pieces by fighters while still in-bound and hours out from the target area, with five crew members out of action. This included the pilot who died from his wounds. The co-pilot continued the mission flying the aircraft alone, maintained formation and along with the surviving navigator managed to put his bombs on target. He then brought the aircraft and surviving crew members back down in England where his aircraft had to be written off as a total loss. This is almost required learning in my neck of the woods because this 2Lt. was a Texan. [;)]

    It bears keeping in mind while watching this movie that the combat scenes aren't actually overstated. The 8th AF had a higher casualty rate flying these missions over Europe than Marines during their brutal campaign in the Pacific.

    Some of these crew members got pretty screwed up by all of this. In fact, after the war the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club was founded by returned bomber crew members and was named after an 8th AF Bomb Group.

    TXS,
    Do you know his name?
    Don
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  • iluvguns
    quote:Memphis Belle, is very authentic.

    The "NEW" movie released a few years ago, or the original documentary released during the war? If the newer, there is no way on God's green earth that it is authentic! Even the crew left from the Belle said the movie sucked and was nothing like what they went through. Read the book "Memphis Belle" and compare it with the newer movie. Nothing like what is shown in the movie ever takes place.
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  • tobefree
    Peck made several good War flicks my fav is Pork Chop Hill.....God I love that flick
    Great actor!!!
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  • Joe Drees
    To Hell and Back....Audie Murphey played himself and STILL looked like a kid.....
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  • jonk
    The actual details of Memphis Belle's last mission and those shown in the movie differ greatly. The movie kind of hammed it up.

    Battle of Britain has every damned plane blowing up. Some DID yes, but not all. It also shows the Hawker Hurricane, the true winner of the battle, only a few times; as is always the case, the Spitfire gets all the credit.

    Midway was pretty good I thought.
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  • tobefree
    quote:Originally posted by Joe Drees
    To Hell and Back....Audie Murphey played himself and STILL looked like a kid.....


    The Red Badge of Courage was another killer Audie Murphy flick!!! Of course that was Civil War flick!!!!
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  • Sperry
    I watched part of black comedy / war movie Kelly's Heros the other day.
    I'd forgotted "Angel" [Rockford Files] was in it. Same role.
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  • Txs
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    TXS,
    Do you know his name?
    DonI confess I couldn't remember his name and had to look it up.

    Here's the story, including the account of how after being awarded the MOH he volunteered for more combat missions and was shot down over Berlin. He ended up exiting the airplane with his parachute only tucked under his arm, but managed to get it attached while falling. He then spent the remainder of the war in a German POW camp.

    www.merkki.com/morganjohn.htm
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    TXS,
    Do you know his name?
    DonI confess I couldn't remember his name and had to look it up.

    Here's the story, including the account of how after being awarded the MOH he volunteered for more combat missions and was shot down over Berlin. He ended up exiting the airplane with his parachute only tucked under his arm, but managed to get it attached while falling. He then spent the remainder of the war in a German POW camp.

    www.merkki.com/morganjohn.htm

    There is another Texan who won the MOH in the 8TH,
    http://www.homeofheroes.com/wings/part2/05_mathis.html
    My dad was in the ball turret when he earned it.
    Don
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