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  • tr fox
    quote:Originally posted by cubslover
    My neighbor had his garage door collapse and tear down part of an exterior wall on his 2 car detached garage.

    It was sided in asbestos. I come home from work this morning and notice he has ripped all the siding off the garage. I saw no asbestos removal team come in to do it.

    Should I be worried?


    If you have reason to be worried, then he has a lot more reason to worry. Contact some govenment agency like the poison control center or something. At least they can probably refer you to the right agency that can help. It won't be the U.S. EPA, but it might be a state or county version of it.
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  • Cubslover
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    quote:Originally posted by cubslover
    My neighbor had his garage door collapse and tear down part of an exterior wall on his 2 car detached garage.

    It was sided in asbestos. I come home from work this morning and notice he has ripped all the siding off the garage. I saw no asbestos removal team come in to do it.

    Should I be worried?


    If you have reason to be worried, then he has a lot more reason to worry. Contact some govenment agency like the poison control center or something. At least they can probably refer you to the right agency that can help. It won't be the U.S. EPA, but it might be a state or county version of it.


    That's what I figured. I remember sleeping yesterday(I'm currently working nights) and hearing what sounded like someone ripping boards off. I assume it may have been him ripping down the siding.

    Is there any type of siding that is more modern that resembles asbestos siding from ago? The siding wasn't in great shape and I am pretty sure it was the real stuff.
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  • tr fox
    Yes, there is some modern siding that, to me anyway, looks like asbestos siding. I think it is some concrete and paper or cardboard mix or some such. But to me it looks and acts like asbestos but it is not asbestos.
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  • jbw1776
    No need to worry cubs. Asbestos is only hazzardous when it's in airboure particle size and breathed into the lungs. I don't know what state rules and regs, if any, y'all got up there that might prevent him from removing the siding himself, but unless he rented a wood chipper, parked it in front of house and shredded all the siding, you can sleep sound tonite.[;)][8D] Though I personally wouldn't worry even if he did do that.

    Ben
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  • guns-n-painthorses
    Last I knew a homeowner could remove the siding himself. As stated, as long as it was in solid form and not airborne, no worrys.


    Got Guns?
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  • dongizmo
    I would not worry, unless your grinding it and not useing mask.
    Don
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  • iluvguns
    Don't worry about it. I did the same thing 14 years ago. Had a contractor come figure an addition to our first house. It was built in the late 40's and sided with asbetos. The siding on the back of the house would have to come off. Ding dong wouldn't touch it. He and I looked it over and he about panicked. Said his throat was getting tight and his eyes were watering just standing there from the stuff. It had been there for app 45 years and had who knows how many coats of paint on it! Told me I needed to hire a haz mat crew to come in and remove it. Yeah right! I ended up taking a claw hammer and popping each piece off myself. Took about 2 days. We were living in the city at the time, and they provided 2 big trash cans for us. The city doesn't know it, but they got 2 trash cans 1/2 full of the stuff each week until it was gone. The asbestos scare is just that...a scare. Unless someone is grinding it up or working in the dust, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
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  • k.stanonik
    I have the same kind of siding on my home, I talked to the solid waste agency and i was told the it is encapsulated and could be thrown in the dump just like any other waste, as stated abouve unless it is frangible there is no need to worry about it.
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  • dolfan
    +1 on no need to worry.

    BTW, the only way to tell if it contains asbestos is by looking at the fiber particles under a microscope. The asbestos fiber has barbs on them that hook and cling to lung tissue.
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  • 11b6r
    Danger, as others said, is when asbestos is in a FRIABLE condition- capable of producing a respirable (you can inhale it) dust. IF neighbor broke tile while removing- HE got a small dose of dust. Intact- well pretty hard to inhale an intact tile. Wetting asbestos down (water, and smidge of detergent to help wetting) is standard practice to control dust- then double bag it, send to a landfill. It does not dissolve in water and contaminate watershed, etc. Now, if you do this 8 hrs a day, 40 hrs a week, I would be concerned about chronic exposure. Would not be greatly concerned about it for a one time affair. Could you cause your neighbor grief and MAYBE bankrupt him by complaining to the state environmental potection folks? Maybe. Planning to continue living next door to him? BTW- Bill Clinton was never concerned about asbestos (I did not inhale)[:p]
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  • bang250
    I believe back in the day there was some sort of slate type siding that also resemble asbestos. But again either way no worries.
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  • sothere
    The odds are very good the the water coming into your house flows through a form of pipe made with cement blended with asbestos(Transite).Have you ever been to an indoor range and are you as concerned about exposure to lead.The risk assosiated with asbestos is more hype than anything.Sure there's a risk but it's right up there with the BS concerning global warming.Popcorn ceilings are predominatly made with asbestos as well as are most of the vent pipes for gas water heaters. If you're determined to worry about it then go all the way and live each day as if it were your last.Come to think of it Cubs,It may well be.Have a great one MR. By the way,can I have your guns?[8D]
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  • kristov
    The danger is minimal but in the event of the worst case, where Tori is left widowed...We'll take good care of her [}:)]!
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  • sharpshooter039
    No need to worry,I have delt with asbestos siding for years,replacing it with vinyl,,its not the same as the asbestos that is a problem because it is incased in a form of plaster,it cannot go airborne unless you are cutting it with a saw and create dust,you can tear it down and most dumps will take it,it is not considered hazardous by the feds but there has been some city nuts who own their own decided it was bad and put there own restrictions on it
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  • competentone
    quote:Originally posted by sothere
    The odds are very good the the water coming into your house flows through a form of pipe made with cement blended with asbestos(Transite).Have you ever been to an indoor range and are you as concerned about exposure to lead.The risk assosiated with asbestos is more hype than anything.Sure there's a risk but it's right up there with the BS concerning global warming.Popcorn ceilings are predominatly made with asbestos as well as are most of the vent pipes for gas water heaters.[8D]


    Generally true about the risks with asbestos mostly being hype -- primarily driven by lawyers cashing in with class action lawsuits.

    That comment about "popcorn ceilings" containing asbestos is just plain wrong -- if you're talking about the type of ceiling commonly used in homes. There is no asbestos in that material -- though I'm sure there are lawyers who would love for that to be the case!
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  • Cubslover
    quote:Originally posted by sothere
    The odds are very good the the water coming into your house flows through a form of pipe made with cement blended with asbestos(Transite).Have you ever been to an indoor range and are you as concerned about exposure to lead.The risk assosiated with asbestos is more hype than anything.Sure there's a risk but it's right up there with the BS concerning global warming.Popcorn ceilings are predominatly made with asbestos as well as are most of the vent pipes for gas water heaters. If you're determined to worry about it then go all the way and live each day as if it were your last.Come to think of it Cubs,It may well be.Have a great one MR. By the way,can I have your guns?[8D]


    What guns, I don't have any guns.

    Thanks for the support Kristov! [:)]
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  • sothere
    That comment about "popcorn ceilings" containing asbestos is just plain wrong -- if you're talking about the type of ceiling commonly used in homes. There is no asbestos in that material -- though I'm sure there are lawyers who would love for that to be the case!


    [/quote]http://www2.asktooltalk.com/questions/faq/ceilings/popcornceiling.php

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  • competentone
    quote:Originally posted by sothere

    http://www2.asktooltalk.com/questions/faq/ceilings/popcornceiling.php

    You were saying[xx(]


    Read your link:

    Get the facts on asbestos in popcorn ceilings by reading Asbestos In Popcorn Ceilings, an informative 8-page article. Easy to understand, this article delivers a wealth of clear and concise information....
    ...This downloadable .pdf article is available for $9.99. To order your printable copy, click here!

    They tell a lie in an attempt to try to scare people into spending $10 to buy their 8-page article!

    Nice scam!
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  • sothere
    whatev
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  • 11b6r
    OSHA standards (30 CFR 1926.1101- Asbestos) under definitions- PACM- presumed asbestos containing Material- includes all thermal insulation and surface texturing materials installed prior to 1980.
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  • MosinNagantDisciple
    No need to be worried about Asbestos. In fact, I start every day with a good lungful of the finest asbestos dust available. It clears out your sinuses and puts hair on your chest. Also builds character, dammit.
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
    No need to be worried about Asbestos. In fact, I start every day with a good lungful of the finest asbestos dust available. It clears out your sinuses and puts hair on your chest. Also builds character, dammit.

    Not working yet eh?[}:)][:D]
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  • dakotashooter2
    quote:That comment about "popcorn ceilings" containing asbestos is just plain wrong

    We have done several flood mitigation buyouts in my community and as usual whenever any federal money is involved they make you run every test in the book. Since most of the homes involved are 60-75 years old and have plaster walls & ceilings and textured ceilings most fit the time period of asbestos use and DO contain some level of asbestos. It is generally pretty low buy you know the feds, they want it removed.It is considered more a danger to the demolition contractor who may be exposed to the dust on a daily basis than the neighborhood who will ony experince a singe limited exposure and is treated as such. I know a few old contractors who dealt with the asbestos siding for years and have no effects from it. Unless you have daily exposure to the dust it may be in it is pretty much hype.
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by dakotashooter2
    quote:That comment about "popcorn ceilings" containing asbestos is just plain wrong

    We have done several flood mitigation buyouts in my community and as usual whenever any federal money is involved they make you run every test in the book. Since most of the homes involved are 60-75 years old and have plaster walls & ceilings and textured ceilings most fit the time period of asbestos use and DO contain some level of asbestos. It is generally pretty low buy you know the feds, they want it removed.It is considered more a danger to the demolition contractor who may be exposed to the dust on a daily basis than the neighborhood who will ony experince a singe limited exposure and is treated as such. I know a few old contractors who dealt with the asbestos siding for years and have no effects from it. Unless you have daily exposure to the dust it may be in it is pretty much hype.



    I installed a few square of it in my youth, you did not cut it with a saw, you had a machine that would shear it, nibble circles, and punch nail holes.
    It is handy to have a piece of it around, to use as a heat shield when soldering pipes.
    Don
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