Dawnie Is A Lady Of Leisure
Sitting at home, watching Oprah, eating bon-bons, depending on the poor, overworked shoe salesman cop for her sustenance.
She walked off her job yesterday. Lots of gossipping, snickering, whispering, back-stabbing, and rumor-mongering going on, and the supervisor wouldn't put a stop to it because she was involved in it. Dawnie tried to talk with the supervisor, and she wouldn't listen, so Dawnie handed over her entry badge and left.
I don't let stress at work bother me, but Dawnie does. She was physically ill, unable to sleep and throwing up, all over a bunch of adults acting like middle-school children. She had to go to the doctor and go on medication for a possible ulcer and anxiety.
Sounds like a "hostile work environment" to me, and since the supervisor contributed to the hostility, and did nothing to remedy it, the company, by extension, must bear responsibility.
I sent an email to the corporate offices detailing some of the problems, and asking for a solution. The big bosses have all been off this week, so it may be a few days before any of them call her, but I'm figuring they will.
Since Dawnie has been off, she has been a different person, and I like this one better.
She walked off her job yesterday. Lots of gossipping, snickering, whispering, back-stabbing, and rumor-mongering going on, and the supervisor wouldn't put a stop to it because she was involved in it. Dawnie tried to talk with the supervisor, and she wouldn't listen, so Dawnie handed over her entry badge and left.
I don't let stress at work bother me, but Dawnie does. She was physically ill, unable to sleep and throwing up, all over a bunch of adults acting like middle-school children. She had to go to the doctor and go on medication for a possible ulcer and anxiety.
Sounds like a "hostile work environment" to me, and since the supervisor contributed to the hostility, and did nothing to remedy it, the company, by extension, must bear responsibility.
I sent an email to the corporate offices detailing some of the problems, and asking for a solution. The big bosses have all been off this week, so it may be a few days before any of them call her, but I'm figuring they will.
Since Dawnie has been off, she has been a different person, and I like this one better.
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its hard when it involves a woman....
men will mostly "step outside" and sort out their troubles.
david, i hope your wife can prove her case.
the only sure way to stop things like that happening on the job is if it costs the company money!
sad but true.0 -
I've been thru this w/several ex's. And seen it attempted w/my wife. But it doesn't last long. For 2 reasons.
#1. She'll lock horns w/any Kitty or group of kitty's that comes down the pike. Any way they want to do it. And they know when fur stops flyin, it won't be all hers that on the ground. Moral: If you LET people bully you, they WILL.
#2. I don't care where you put her, my wife will be the hardest worker in the place. And in no time will be a favorite of the boss. And when the boss is on your side, you're ahead in the game.
IMO if the management allows or participates in the running out of an employee, that employee is usually a weak link w/low value to the company to begin with.0 -
nunn, put your foot down.
Be firm.
NO MORE Oprah.0 -
As most of you know I am rough around the edges. I can't use the fancy words to get my point across so I just tell it like it is in my own words. It comes from a very rough childhood and a life time of dealing with rough men. I have been a boss at one level or an other since 1969 and never backed down from anyone including MY boss. Every man under me during all that time knew I would stand up to them in or outside the company and have several times. If they wanted to fight then I would tell them to hop on. Some did and regretted it. Everyone always knew if they stabbed me in the back they damn well better watch theirs. All I can say Dawnie is stand tall and give your co-workers twice the crap they give you! 0 -
good for her nobody needs that kinda bull from anybody..if she is happy and you can make a go of it then i say let her take it easy awhile..i hate back stabbing double talkers. 0 -
I figure she will get a phone call for a conference with the big bosses when they return from vacation. She WAS the hardest worker in the place, carrying way more than her share of the workload. She was very popular with the various technicians who called in because she was efficient and friendly and took care of them timely and accurately. Many techs would ask for her when they called in. Sooner or later, someone is going to ask why she isn't there. 0 -
nunn,
My hat is off to you and dawnie. my earlier post was just an attempt to get a rise out of BR. I was looking forward to some fun. I am truly sorry Dawnie is having problems at work and hope you guys get it resolved to your satisfaction.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
...Lots of gossipping, snickering, whispering, back-stabbing, and rumor-mongering going on, and the supervisor wouldn't put a stop to it.....
I had no idea that your wife worked on the Gun Broker forums.0 -
Nunn...
Worked for JCI in Kentucky for a bit better than 20 years before local management decided they didn't need manufacturing engineers...Company itself is good...Treated me well on the way out...Sometimes local management leaves a lot to be desired...But that would be another topic...
Good luck to your wife....And you too...
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Wouldn't it have been better to put in her two weeks notice before leaving? It will look bad to potential future employers that she walked off the job. 0 -
I don't care if she ever works again.
Two weeks' notice? Would you take two more weeks of not being able to sleep, or keep food down? She lost four pounds in a week, and she didn't have four pounds to spare.
Two weeks of allowing someone to stick a pencil in your eye? Rain on that notion.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
I don't care if she ever goes back there. I just hate to see a bunch of peer employees and one first-line supervisor who act like children run her off and get by with it.
Same thing happened to my wife.
Look at it this way: Dawnie's former employer they lost a better employee than they deserve.
It was a hell of a thing to wrap my mind around, at the time but we came out of better. The J.C. Penney's store she used to work for lost a good employee. They're still a little festering boil of drama and my wife is making three times the money she made there.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
I figure she will get a phone call for a conference with the big bosses when they return from vacation. She WAS the hardest worker in the place, carrying way more than her share of the workload. She was very popular with the various technicians who called in because she was efficient and friendly and took care of them timely and accurately. Many techs would ask for her when they called in. Sooner or later, someone is going to ask why she isn't there.
Nunn,
In todays world, the only thing the corperate people understand when it comes to situations like these are two things combined. Those two things are Labor Board, and Lawyer. mention those two things, then they will sit up, perk up their ears, and give you full attention.0 -
The words "Hostile work environment" always gets management going. 0 -
Tried to call a couple of times and left a message. Call if I can help. 0 -
Didn't the same thing happen in her last job? 0 -
No. On her last job, she was anonymously and falsely accused of violating a HIPAA rule, something she never did. Management chose to believe the anonymous accuser, and there was no attempt at due process.
As a civil service employee, I am accustomed to due process in any disciplinary proceeding, but outside civil service, and absent a union contract, all employers in Texas are "at will," and an employee can be terminated at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all.
Back to Dawnie's situation: The anonymous employee who accused her was recently identified, and was herself fired for violating HIPAA. She also admitted that she lied on Dawnie and got her fired because she wanted Dawnie's shift.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
No. On her last job, she was anonymously and falsely accused of violating a HIPAA rule, something she never did. Management chose to believe the anonymous accuser, and there was no attempt at due process.
As a civil service employee, I am accustomed to due process in any disciplinary proceeding, but outside civil service, and absent a union contract, all employers in Texas are "at will," and an employee can be terminated at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all.
Back to Dawnie's situation: The anonymous employee who accused her was recently identified, and was herself fired for violating HIPAA. She also admitted that she lied on Dawnie and got her fired because she wanted Dawnie's shift.
Some people are just losers. She will get what she deserves in the end.0 -
Nunn,
You and Dawnie hang in there. Treat her like the princess she is, and look for the light at the end of the tunnel. I just find it hard to palate some of the things people do to others.0 -
I feel for you both.
The laws right now have generally swung in the direction to help employers-not employees at this time, from what I have heard. You may be able to get a lawyer to assist you but they will often want a couple of grand in advance, so they don't end up working for nothing.
That said, most companies will still offer a settlement before going to trial because of the risk they take with a jury feeling sorry for the victim and really spanking the company HARD, because so many people can sympathize, sypathise, uh,.... relate.[:D]
The company will generally string it out over a long period of time until you get tired of fighting and give up.
At least that has been my experience. (I still have a class action grievance pending from my old job over the Hurricane Katrina assignments along with over 20 other folks that still has not been settled and that has been over 2 years.)0 -
The assistant HR director in Wisconsin called her today. They DO NOT want Dawnie to quit, and seem to be willing to try and right the wrongs. She is expecting to have a sit-down meeting with the big bosses on Monday. 0 -
Glad to hear it David! I hope she's able to reach an amicable solution with her employer... 0 -
Wire her up and record the session. She may want some proof later of what was said. 0 -
been there done that. MAKE DANG SURE SHE HAS A WITNESS WITH HER, AND RECORD MEETING IF POSIBLE. 0 -
[:D][:D][:D]Dawnie's year to date.
1-2-8 Walked off job.
1-3-8 World finds out "Dawnie Is A Lady Of Leisure"
1-4-8 Dawnie takes care of "the poor, overworked cop that called off sick.
1-4-8 Another shameless Plug posted by Nunn with lots of new auctions started 1-4-8 that must have been written by Dawnie as Nunn was sick[:0]
1-5-8 Thread posted "Has The GB Forums ever.....Had a Female Moderator. That was timed right.
[:D][:D][:D]Hope your New Year improves and you get your job back with a raise.[:D]0 -
Write a memo to the chief honcho over night after the meeting; "This memo is to state the substance of our discussion on _ _ 08 between ___, ___,___ and myself and to confirm my understanding of the agreement between ___ &___ to __________."
A letter indicating mutual understanding will avoid the"he said, she said" unsubstantiable claims in the future.
A recorder would be useful. Do your best to control your emotions during the meeting or you'll lose your effectiveness.
If you return there CYA with memos.
It might do well to take a Valium before the meeting.
Good luck.0 -
Thanks all.I am ready for the meeting. I found out yesterday that one of the guys on second shift told his supervisor,,well first shift ran her off.He told me that he would go to hr and tell them about the childish games that first shift plays and that supervisor on first has no experience and has no business going out partying and drinking with her click of coworkers.he works 12-8 so for two hours he works with me and he seen it.
My hr director told me that she doesnt want me to leave I have been a good employee for the past year and we will do whatever it takes to get me back.
I am almost 39 and i am not going to work in a second grade enviroment,we monitors alarms for att which includes all enviromental alarms,and it is embarasing when a tech calls in and he hears laughing and people talking loud,what he must think:"r these people watching my building"0 -
nunn i went thur the same thing on my last job alway getting past over for promotions and such because i didn't kiss my boss rear end i left there almost 2 yrs ago i am now making twice the money and get the pleasure of rubbing it in his face since he lives a couple of doors down from me 0 -
quit my co mgr job at the super market after many years. it will be a year in march i have lost 15lbs and currently do not need nerve medicine and blood pressure is down. sometimes the money is not worth it. 0
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